JL Audio Contacts Elemental Designs Over Patent Infringement Concerns

[Audio Junkies 3]

Thought this was interesting. The guys at ED don't seem to be too worried, but I know the guys at JL and if they contacted me for any reason about pissing them off I'd be damn sure to try and make things right.

http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/305

[2kchevy 3]

this isn't the first time ED has copied someones design though. I can't remember what it was but they copied something else almost exactly. It was a while ago, I'd be surprised if I could search and find it.

[Audio Junkies 3]

this isn't the first time ED has copied someones design though. I can't remember what it was but they copied something else almost exactly. It was a while ago, I'd be surprised if I could search and find it.

I know which driver you are talking about. I think it was a low-profile 8" that was made by Tangband or somebody else doing OEM for ED. If I remember correctly something went south with the design being sold to other clients or used by the company doing the OEM and ED decided to make their own. I think it was on Parts Express for a while.

[Acidburn 10]

lol awesome

pucking ed

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I hope JL can tear them up, honestly.

[JimJ 11]

I wonder how many threads are on ICIX about it?

[Lord Baccus 1]

all i saw that was close was the basket...

and its sad if they went through all the trouble to copy a JL !!!

i would think there are common parts from "Build Houses" unless JL has a patin on that basket ???

i saw a Funkin sub that looked just like a Soundstream from the side but the cone / spider / coil were different

Edited June 7, 2007 by Lord Baccus

[JimJ 11]

unless JL has a patin on that basket ???

JL patents pretty much everything they do...it's a fair bet that basket is protected from others using it

[ANeonRider 3]

Almost guaranteed.

[mrray13 30]

x3. like eclipse did with the Ti basket for years. and knowing ben, they copied more then the basket...soon it'll be advertised as the greatest thing since internal combustion.

i don't like jl, but respect their r&d in every driver. i hope they end eDuhs existence.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Jybfan04 1]

wow thats gotta suck..

[Patrick Simmons 0]

This should be interesting. JL doesn't play games.

[vladd 26]

just from reading the quote in the blog i say he copied the hell out of it

[vitod 0]

I hope JL can tear them up, honestly.

I detect a hatred for eD from many members. Wondering why?

[JimJ 11]

I hope JL can tear them up, honestly.

I detect a hatred for eD from many members. Wondering why?

The short version is that Ben Milne is a jakcalope.

The long version will take some time to read

If you're not a member on carstereos.org...join.

[ramos 2]

Interesting.....Manville and the boys don't play. Can't wait to see if this turns out like the tangband shallow 10's

[Lord Baccus 1]

i personaly dont care for JL subs but that just me...

overpriced paperweight...tencil leads break to easy

[ramos 2]

I'm by no means a jl person either. But I do know, and have talked to Manville Smith on several occasions . I opened my audio shop shortly after jl first went into business. When I asked about carrying thier products, I ended up talking to Manville for a good hour or so . Three days later Manville showed up at the door with a couple w0's in hand One thing I will always say about JL . Is that they are on top of thier business

[bigjae1976 0]

I hope JL can tear them up, honestly.

I detect a hatred for eD from many members. Wondering why?

The short version is that Ben Milne is a jakcalope.

The long version will take some time to read

If you're not a member on carstereos.org...join.

Link???

[JimJ 11]

http://www.carstereos.org

You need to be a member and sign into the "Hell Hole" before you'll see the thread that I'm referring you to. The Ben Milne Love Parade

i personaly dont care for JL subs but that just me...

overpriced paperweight...tencil leads break to easy

Only thing I like from JL is the W6v2...but I like it a lot

[mrray13 30]

Only thing I like from JL is the W6v2...but I like it a lot

x2

that is far and away jl's best sub. they really got that one right.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Patrick Simmons 0]

Only thing I like from JL is the W6v2...but I like it a lot

x2

that is far and away jl's best sub. they really got that one right.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

X3 our best seller.

[dopey 0]

No one can argue with the first pics. But the second and third ones don't really look like patent infringement to me.

The W7 has the screwedup mounting system...the ED doesn't (Ben probably couldn't figure it out)

The cone on the second pic is a similar design TO MANY cones....hope JL isn't going to push THAT.

And the bottom ED pic, looks COMPLETELY different from the W7. And completely different from the top ED pic. :???:

[IamDeMan 0]

The designs are different enough not to warrant any concern. They dont even use the same mouiting design so no big deal. This is like windows suing lindows. Its a big dog trying to kick a little dog in the nuts. I don't like ED, but this SHOULDN'T go any further IMO.

[///M5 2,833]

Depends on if the guts of the sub have something that JL patented. I hope so, I'd like to see eD and Icix go the way of the Low-Hz. Shady fvckers shouldn't be in business.