audiobahn 3 way component set

[CBFryman 2]

if it where me, i would get the 8" mids and 2pair of some decent ribbon or planar tweets. but that is just because i dont know horns. also, ribbons and planars dont need the EQing horns will AND Ribbons have excelent SQ and get rather loud.

[///M5 2,833]

I'd love to see you get two sets of ribbons on-axis...

[barnie 0]

2 mistakes your making

a decent 2 way set will be better than a budget 3 way set

and 2 pairs over 1 pair, 2 way is bad, 3 way would be a nightmare

im thinking your asking for to much equipment for to little money, have a look at second hand horns,

[CBFryman 2]

I think what you guys are missing is that he doenst care about imageing or SQ past it being undistorted.

[///M5 2,833]

I think what you guys are missing is that he doenst care about imageing or SQ past it being undistorted.

Then why are you recommending ribbons?

[CBFryman 2]

cheap and louder than regular dome tweeters.

[pimpedout97x 4]

Lol what are ribbons?

And I have another question. Would 4 sets of components be louder than one set of horns? Becuase I MAY buy these door panels and its made for 3 sets, and have the 4th in my kicks. I currently have 2 sets of diamond audio d661s components.

And yes, I am not looking for top notch sq, I want decent sq though.

[CBFryman 2]

Build custom door panels. If you need help drive up here. shawn will charge you, ill just help/ show you what to do.

If it where me i would do the following.

2 8's in each door and turn the door into an enclosure and port them run them up to 1kHz.

2 4-6" in each door midRANGE not midbass. 1kHz-4kHz

2 loud tweeters in each door.

run the 8's active from the mids and tweets and then (to save money on power and axtive Xovers) run the tweets and mids passive (a simple 6dB/octave passiv Xover would be reletively cheap to design and solder on your own or have someone else do)

put them all in the door, tweets up in the forward corner on axis

mids in the forward corner on axis

and the 8's in the bottom pointing towards the dome light.

Ribbon tweeters...well i could tell you in a horrible way how they work or let wikipedia explain.

A Ribbon Tweeter uses a piece of very thin aluminium foil suspended in a powerful magnetic field to reproduce high frequencies. The development of ribbon tweeters has followed the development of ribbon microphones. High power versions of ribbon tweeters are becoming common in large scale sound reinforcement line array systems, that can serve audiences of thousands. This is because the ribbon tweeter exhibits specific directional properties, with very wide horizontal dispersion (coverage) and very tight vertical dispersion. These properties mean that the devices can be stacked vertically, making a high frequency line array that will project high sound pressure levels much further than conventional tweeters.

Some manufacturers have opted to make wave guides that channel the hemispherical output of a regular tweeter into a more focused beam, approximating a ribbon tweeter. However this approach doesn't yield the same output as a true ribbon, which will almost always have a better high frequency response than a standard tweeter. This is because the entire ribbon is immersed in its magnetic field, whereas a standard dome or cone tweeter has only its voice coil coupled to its magnetic field. This leads to failure of the dome or cone to faithfully track voice coil movement, creating phase distortion called breakup. Ribbons will function at higher frequencies than conventional circular tweeters, without breakup modes (distortion).

[///M5 2,833]

Lol what are ribbons?

And I have another question. Would 4 sets of components be louder than one set of horns? Becuase I MAY buy these door panels and its made for 3 sets, and have the 4th in my kicks. I currently have 2 sets of diamond audio d661s components.

And yes, I am not looking for top notch sq, I want decent sq though.

Maybe, but I doubt it. Here's why:

1 component set => x db

2 component set => x+3db

4 component set => x+6db

That is assuming no cancellation. Since it is fairly easy to find horns that are more than 6db more sensitive than component tweeters, I'd still go with horns. I also think that even with just say the 880's eq that a set of horns will sound better than 4 sets of component tweeters together. They will definetely have a much easier stage to setup.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Lol what are ribbons?

And I have another question. Would 4 sets of components be louder than one set of horns? Becuase I MAY buy these door panels and its made for 3 sets, and have the 4th in my kicks. I currently have 2 sets of diamond audio d661s components.

And yes, I am not looking for top notch sq, I want decent sq though.

Maybe, but I doubt it. Here's why:

1 component set => x db

2 component set => x+3db

4 component set => x+6db

That is assuming no cancellation. Since it is fairly easy to find horns that are more than 6db more sensitive than component tweeters, I'd still go with horns. I also think that even with just say the 880's eq that a set of horns will sound better than 4 sets of component tweeters together. They will definetely have a much easier stage to setup.

I agree with sean on this, with all that power behind you, it will probably need something as strong as some good ID horns to keep up

[pimpedout97x 4]

What model ID horns should I run?

[Eldorado 0]

I do not reccomend the 908BT

Not only does it cost more than the 880prs it has less eq bands.

If all you want is looks and blue tooth then go for it.

[johnecon2001 82]

What model ID horns should I run?

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CD2's are the loudest.. if that's what your after.

[pimpedout97x 4]

Where can I go about getting a set? How much do people normally pay for these?

[Eldorado 0]

Ebay, sound domain

[CBFryman 2]

Lol what are ribbons?

And I have another question. Would 4 sets of components be louder than one set of horns? Becuase I MAY buy these door panels and its made for 3 sets, and have the 4th in my kicks. I currently have 2 sets of diamond audio d661s components.

And yes, I am not looking for top notch sq, I want decent sq though.

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Maybe, but I doubt it. Here's why:

1 component set => x db

2 component set => x+3db

4 component set => x+6db

That is assuming no cancellation. Since it is fairly easy to find horns that are more than 6db more sensitive than component tweeters, I'd still go with horns. I also think that even with just say the 880's eq that a set of horns will sound better than 4 sets of component tweeters together. They will definetely have a much easier stage to setup.

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and the ability to send them twice ast much pwer + 3dB

[CBFryman 2]

and the fact that ribbons are highly directional so when aimed directly at your ears they will carry the sound firhter with less drop off.

[Impious 1,476]

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=264-204

or

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=264-235

or

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=290-442

just some in your pricerange...im not really a horny guy (bad pun intended)

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=270-096

lenses.

Those type of horn lenses will not work well in a vehicle. If you've ever looked at car audio horn bodies, you'll notice they are flared at the mouth both vertically and horizontally (towards the opposite listener). This is done for two very important reasons.....First, they are flared vertically to create a very high vertical dispersion pattern, so that when they are mounted under the dash the sound will "roll" up the dash, creating a high soundstage (the dash essentially acts as an extension of the horn's mouth). Second they are flared horizontally so that much of the sound pressure is diverted towards the opposite listener. This helps both seats receive a relatively even amount of sound from both horns, again aiding in the ability of the horn to soundstage and image properly.

Also, most car audio horns have bolt-on compression drivers, not screw-on.

[CBFryman 2]

Good to know. I dont know much about horns, just how they physially work and that is about it.

[barnie 0]

here you see the diference in the lenses for car use compared to the above

also a different design to the ID lenses