can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

[Thumpper 266]

take it from someone who has blown more subs than he can count

""YOU ARE CLIPPING YOUR AMPLIFIER""

If you are getting a burning smell out of that sub on only 1000w there

is definitely a clipped signal there

[dragon123443 3]

take it from someone who has blown more subs than he can count

""YOU ARE CLIPPING YOUR AMPLIFIER""

If you are getting a burning smell out of that sub on only 1000w there

is definitely a clipped signal there

Lol I'll take your advice. I guess its time to invest in an OSCOPE

Edited January 10, 2014 by dragon123443

[dragon123443 3]

A clipped signal creates more power over a given period. This is the only thing that will kill a sub. The coil is just a wound up wire it doesn't care what type of power it recieved as long as it does not exceed it's thermal rating it won't break.

The only other reason for failure would be the tensil leads breaking which should not be an issue as the parts should work well past the mechanical clearance of the edge.

Or the coil is bottoming out and the coil is shorting out on the back plate. But you should be able to hear that.

I think clipping is the answer. I need to do my research and learn how to setup my gains better. I do feel the sub get a really warm at time. I need to take it out and check the tinsel leads. And make s ure its still OK.. also I've noticed my box leaks air around the speaker, might that have something to do with it?

Yes, it can have detrimental effects on the sub, the way it performs and the power it can handle.

Give us the exact dimensions of the enclosure and the length of the port that's being used and we can verify with better certainty that your enclosure is indeed 1.4cuft and that the port is tuned to 32hz. The XCON's are NOT easy subs to tear up and you're probably trying to get WAY more out of the sub than it can deliver. I have a 10" XCON on an SAZ-1500 and it never gets warm, never smells and should last a very long time. On that Rockford it should last an eternity with only 1kw feeding it so I would imagine it's a combination of things, air leaks, questionable enclosure specifications, and clipping that has lead to the demise of the sub, twice.

Depth 14.25 in.

height 12.75 in.

Width 32.25 in.

It has an indentation on a corner to go around the floor of my car, the specs to that is

Width 32.25 in

Height 3.5 in

Depth 7 in

3 inch aero port 11 in. long

[dragon123443 3]

Forgot to mention it has a double baffle

[Thumpper 266]

I use to have the same problem years ago....get every bit of power out of the amp

and cook the sub...turns out sad every time

I like to over power my subs now.....a 2000w amp set correctly would spank an Xcon

really really good with out producing any smoke....

a little bit to much clean power will not hurt a sub as long as the mechanical limits are not

over exceeded

 

for example when I had a pair of 10"Icons on my Crown A3000gti amp..(LOL)...they took the power

with out  cooking the coils but the cones ripped clean off the surrounds when the mechanical limits

were exceeded

the coils darkened slightly but no smoke with well over a true 3,200w rms going to them

[EPerez 236]

take it from someone who has blown more subs than he can count

""YOU ARE CLIPPING YOUR AMPLIFIER""

If you are getting a burning smell out of that sub on only 1000w there

is definitely a clipped signal there

Lol I'll take your advice. I guess its time to invest in an OSCOPE

Time to say fuck no and not buy an o-scope lol don't waste your money on it as it won't do you any good. You need to do your gain setting with you're senses. It's the easiest and best way to do it. You set all your settings where they need to be (also head unit at 3/4 volume) and then turn the gain up slowly while you listen for distress of the sub. It'll start to sound different, in a bad way, once you hit that spot then back off the gains just enough to where you don't hear the stress/distortion.

[pmureika 31]

 

Too much power. The only way to burn a sub up.

Thanks bro. I think your right on the money

Then you have been clipping the hell out of it, 1000w will not blow an Xcon

I thought clipping won't burn a sub up.

[dragon123443 3]

Fuck... I'm confused lol

[dragon123443 3]

I use to have the same problem years ago....get every bit of power out of the amp

and cook the sub...turns out sad every time

I like to over power my subs now.....a 2000w amp set correctly would spank an Xcon

really really good with out producing any smoke....

a little bit to much clean power will not hurt a sub as long as the mechanical limits are not

over exceeded

for example when I had a pair of 10"Icons on my Crown A3000gti amp..(LOL)...they took the power

with out cooking the coils but the cones ripped clean off the surrounds when the mechanical limits

were exceeded

the coils darkened slightly but no smoke with well over a true 3,200w rms going to them

Dang, do you still have this amp by any chance??

[S.DeYoung 968]

 

 

Too much power. The only way to burn a sub up.

Thanks bro. I think your right on the money

Then you have been clipping the hell out of it, 1000w will not blow an Xcon

I thought clipping won't burn a sub up.

Not directly but clipping will cause the amplifier to put out more power which could kill the subwoofer

[dragon123443 3]

take it from someone who has blown more subs than he can count

""YOU ARE CLIPPING YOUR AMPLIFIER""

If you are getting a burning smell out of that sub on only 1000w there

is definitely a clipped signal there

Lol I'll take your advice. I guess its time to invest in an OSCOPE

Time to say fuck no and not buy an o-scope lol don't waste your money on it as it won't do you any good. You need to do your gain setting with you're senses. It's the easiest and best way to do it. You set all your settings where they need to be (also head unit at 3/4 volume) and then turn the gain up slowly while you listen for distress of the sub. It'll start to sound different, in a bad way, once you hit that spot then back off the gains just enough to where you don't hear the stress/distortion.

Hey watsup bassink (your name makes more sense to me by the way)!?

Do you do that on a test tone??

[Thumpper 266]

I use to have the same problem years ago....get every bit of power out of the amp

and cook the sub...turns out sad every time

I like to over power my subs now.....a 2000w amp set correctly would spank an Xcon

really really good with out producing any smoke....

a little bit to much clean power will not hurt a sub as long as the mechanical limits are not

over exceeded

for example when I had a pair of 10"Icons on my Crown A3000gti amp..(LOL)...they took the power

with out cooking the coils but the cones ripped clean off the surrounds when the mechanical limits

were exceeded

the coils darkened slightly but no smoke with well over a true 3,200w rms going to them

Dang, do you still have this amp by any chance??

 

nope I got rid of it

I traded the A3000gti for a pair of Soundstream REF 2.640 two channel amps

and a pair of REF 1.500 mono blocks

 

 I no longer have a desire for an amp that needs 6 batteries and 2 big alternators...

all 4 of the amps I have now use less juice than the A3000

Edited January 10, 2014 by Thumpper