fan in monoblock......better??

[natedizzle 0]

do the monoblocks with the fans in them make a big difference or not unless you run then for a long period of time??..cause ive come down to either choosing the ED nine.1 or the massive audio p1500.1,the nine,1 has a built in fan and the massive doesnt but i heard the massive is a overrall better quality amp so i wanted to ask you guys...

[Eldorado 0]

Some dont like fans, some like fans.

I personally dont care as long as the amp is cool.

[dennisp 0]

I'm sure the designer of the amp factored in whether or not the amp needed a fan. It shouldn't really be your deciding factor.

[///M5 2,833]

If you base your choice on whether there is a fan or not, it is purely idiotic.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I cannot remember if I pointed you towards the Orion 1200D or a US Amps MD2 from flakko (memeber here on SSA).

[///M5 2,833]

Both would be MUCH BETTER than your other choices.

[natedizzle 0]

it wasnt gonna be the deciding factor i was just wondering pretty much....and i just cant afford that md2 for $400 right now,and this guy is still trying to sell me his 2 viper 1200.1 for 375 shipped so im still looking at that.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

it wasnt gonna be the deciding factor i was just wondering pretty much....and i just cant afford that md2 for $400 right now,and this guy is still trying to sell me his 2 viper 1200.1 for 375 shipped so im still looking at that.

do me a favor and PM flakko NOW!!! on the MD2, I promise you it is a good idea

[natedizzle 0]

like i said if i had the money i would get that md2 but since i dont i think im gonna buy this RF t15001bd for $300 cause ive heard nothing but good stuff about that amp and for the price you really cant beat that.

[///M5 2,833]

Your typing/blabbing skills are much better than your listening/learning skills. It seems to me every post that you have made has been searching for approval on a decision that you have already made with sometimes extremely questionable advice. Then when given answers you ignore them anyway. Since you are just going to do what you are going to do, go ahead and do it. You are going to end up with more money spent in the long run for a system that doesn't perform like it should. Enjoy blowing your money and then realizing you should have listened to some real advice.

[Chevy350TPI 12]

Didn't know they made a 1500 in the Txxxx1bd series - I see a 500, 1000, 2000, and 4000.

And yes, you can easily compete with that $300 price tag.

[natedizzle 0]

i guess your right m5 i am kinda looking for approval i guess guess no matter what amp i look at i dont know which one i need or want because im not really a tech head so its hard for me to decide hearing 50/50 about every amp i look at.But i mean if you wanna keep running your mouth go ahead cause im just looking for some help or else i wouldnt be asking any of you.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

like i said if i had the money i would get that md2 but since i dont i think im gonna buy this RF t15001bd for $300 cause ive heard nothing but good stuff about that amp and for the price you really cant beat that.

Nate, did you PM flakko for a price on the MD2?

it should be pretty close to what your looking at for an older RF amp, plus it has more power, that is if your talking about the T1001 or the T501, not sure which amp you are reffering to

[natedizzle 0]

he wanted $400 for the md2....and like i said earlier i was looking at getting the t15001bd for $300 and those rf are suppose to be very underrated but im not sure thats just what ive read......... and you know its reallt hard asking about amps on anywhere cause most everything is opinion and thats hard to go by,if go somewhere and say you like this amp and wanna get you will 5 more people saying its crap so that makes even more hard to decide.Just like forums like icix saying ED and you guys saying usamps(which i both like) but bias doesnt help either, and you m5 thinking im not listening is just bs cause you dont know how long ive had to think about this,im trying to find the right amp and not just go with something one guy says.

[Chevy350TPI 12]

But i mean if you wanna keep running your mouth go ahead

Suggestion. Drop it. You're in my house.

I don't like it when people don't take off their shoes.

[JimJ 11]

You haven't really articulated what you need in an amp yet...

For $300, you have a ton of options in that price range.

Pick the RF if you want - certainly it isn't a badly built piece of gear and should last you many years of use.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

he wanted $400 for the md2....and like i said earlier i was looking at getting the t15001bd for $300 and those rf are suppose to be very underrated but im not sure thats just what ive read......... and you know its reallt hard asking about amps on anywhere cause most everything is opinion and thats hard to go by,if go somewhere and say you like this amp and wanna get you will 5 more people saying its crap so that makes even more hard to decide.Just like forums like icix saying ED and you guys saying usamps(which i both like) but bias doesnt help either, and you m5 thinking im not listening is just bs cause you dont know how long ive had to think about this,im trying to find the right amp and not just go with something one guy says.

Please don't ever ever compare us to ICIX. ICIX is owned by eD, and they will shoved eD down your throat even if it does not serve your needs. US Amps is just a forum here, they send no money no do they have any part in ownership. Flakko is related to the owner, and has an excellent track record with service. He goes out of his way to make sure the order is done right, we have seen it countless times on here. Plus the mark up for a US Amps amplifer in a store is going to be much more than what flakko is selling them for. To be very honest, eD should not even be considered in the same thought as US Amps. I never said eD is crap, but US Amps is serious better in almost all aspects (not to mention that they design their own amplifers).

Now on to the amplifer you mentioned. I am a very long time RF fan, I love the old old amps and I am very impressed with their new line. I asked about the model you are reffering to "t15001bd" and as far as I know that model does not exist. There is the 1501bd, and the new T15002 and T15004 (both big power very wel built amplifers). But Nate, you will never find the perfect amplifer. You have to just do some research and try one out. There are members on here that goes through amps faster than they go through an oil change (in total seriousness). So the bias is more based on past experiences. Nate, just jump in a pick one that has most of the features/power/price/availablity/well respected seller you need. If it is not the one you need, then at least you tried and you can turn around resell it on here to another member. I mean look at Joehemi, great member/great seller, he swaps out amps so often, he just got the new XT2000D (I believe) but very shortly after he bought it (loved it by the way) he wanted to try a new sub, as it turns out that sub would not match well with the amplifer. So he is selling an almost new amplifer. That is just an example and there are numerous people on here who are just like that. Make a decision, have some faith in it, if it does not work out, then try again.

We will help you as much as we can, but your going to have to make a choice yourself.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

to add to that I can put in personal experience...

-- RF Fanatic Q's (top end model) monster mid bass, ferro cooled tweet,

-- Mids/Highs amp in my explorer. I must have gone through 6 amplifers until I found the right one. 3 rf amps, 1 cadence, 1 Orion, 1 US Acoustics. I needed something with low THD and good reliable power with minimal processing if any. I like the Cadence, liked it enough to end up buying a larger model later on down the road, even after I sold the origninal one in question. RF 360a2 (fried it), RF 250a2 (still have it love it), RF 125a2 (still love it, very underratted using it still today). The Orion was the strongest I believe of the bunch but I snapped a few pieces on it moving back and forth to college, but I liked it so much it partially led to me currecntly owning 3 monster Orion amps now. Then there is the little US Acoustics 2075, now this is a few years back and I knew they were using ZED boards and amplifers that we ZED made were some of the clearest I had heard up until then. Then I started to notice Crutchfield carried them, so I gave this little amp a shot. Guess what amplifer I have used the most? The little ole' US Acoustics (now I would probably not favor them now with out ZED internals), but this amp is rock solid and puts out plenty of clear and clean power and matched well with RF components.

Long story short, I bought a bunch of amps to find out which one I would like the best, kept 3 of them, but through some trial and error I found out what amp did what I needed to do. Hope that helps some.

[JimJ 11]

But Nate, you will never find the perfect amplifer.

Exhibit A...me!

[Beat_Dominator 2]

I have the perfect amplifier........ plan to restore it this summer too

[natedizzle 0]

im sorry for causing problems if i did and i could say nothing bad about any of you guys for helping me cause without the help i would be REALLY lost.I know i wont find a perfect amp im just trying to find the amp that is best for my subs thats all.Most of the time i feel like im asking way too many questions but thats because i dont have alot of exp so thats why i ask so many so once thanks to everyone and sorry if i stepped on any feet.

[Chevy350TPI 12]

It's no problem - I think collectively we're all just trying to help you make the best choice possible so you're the one who is ultimately happy with it in the end.

It's so hard because it's not our money, nor do we have to install it, or listen to it on a daily basis.

[JimJ 11]

No offense taken with me, but please...use commas!

I see one of two periods in there, which is a start...I guess.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

im sorry for causing problems if i did and i could say nothing bad about any of you guys for helping me cause without the help i would be REALLY lost.I know i wont find a perfect amp im just trying to find the amp that is best for my subs thats all.Most of the time i feel like im asking way too many questions but thats because i dont have alot of exp so thats why i ask so many so once thanks to everyone and sorry if i stepped on any feet.

It never hurts to ask questions, and this is pretty much the most friendly unbiased forum your going to find. We have a great bunch of members and a few are able to help us out on some deals. Good luck on your choice, I hope we have helped atleast steer you in the right direction. But keep in mind, the quality of the box and the design will effect the sound and output of the sub much more than an amplifer.

[mrray13 30]

what denim said. there is alot of amplifier experience on this board and a few companies who make them. so it's natural for the board to wanna lean towards those companies. but bias? not here. closest things to bandwagons here are SI and SS, and even then other subs get recommended right along side of those.

but the simple truth remains, you should take all advice given, throw away half of it and take the rest with a grain of salt. for while our ears and experience tell us one thing, yours will tell you something else. we can guide you, but you have to do the walking. leaning towards RF, nice. either great the old punch stuff or the very new stuff, stay away from everything inbetween (i've got a blown 800.2 in my garge. $12 worth of parts will fix it, but because of RF's board design my guy can't fix it. so $150 or so to fix it? nah. it'll be a paper weight.) but that's my experience and what i get from some serious competitors. i work with a world champion everyday damn near.

my choice? memphis first. but they are outa your price range new, unless you go ebay and then you get no warranty. orion is a great choice. i absolutely love my 2500d. hifonics is a nice choice. the nemesis that usually pushes the rl-p has been flawless except for the name not glowing, which i care little about. ma audio. wow, big power, but big current draw. kinda reminds me of jbl in that sense.

more advice? listen first. not just to us, but to the producets if you can. go to stores, playwith the amps. look at features. weigh what you read with what you hear. can't hear the amp you want? don't just research these boards, look into the crapton of sites that are strictly for reviews. google the amp your after, your sure to find a review site in the results. look up termpro and see what the competitors are using. that's always a good indication, but beware. some of those guys run modded amps or more then 14 volts.

all in all, this is one of the trickiest parts of car audio.alot of good technology out there, but budget is going to limit one to just what he/she can get. and, IMO, here (amps) more then anywhere, you truely get what you pay for.

good luck and keep us up to date!

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