dual 10's or quad 8's

[Lschevy 3]

I found me box builder for my truck. the enclosure would be a little over 2.4 cubic ft. net so my options are quad 8's in a custom enclosure or two 10's in a fox acoustics enclosure. if I go with the quad 8's what's a good option to go with under $140 per sub our $220 with the dual 10's? I want something thats sound good but somewhat loud at the same time

[lithium 358]

Mounting depth? box volume? you know the drill after 200 post here dude... 

[Lschevy 3]

[lithium 358]

which side do the woofers mount to?

Edited April 27, 2013 by lithium

[Lschevy 3]

everyone i asked told me quad 8's is the way to go...so i guess the front

[///M5 2,833]

When you have 9" of internal depth and it sloping down fast to 4" a woofer with a 6" depth can only have ~7" diamter magnet. That means some will fit, but if your builder isn't spot on it won't. I'd build the box and test fit it before ordering anything.

[Dictator 39]

Two tens be a lot cheaper!

[Lschevy 3]

Two tens be a lot cheaper!

my box builder don't build down fire enclosures so I would have to get a fox acoustics enclosure and I don't know how that would work with something a ssd or Q

[Ceez9090 9]

My box guy has 4 8" L7 in a Cadillac devill I think that's the model of car and they sound great hits way harder than most pair of tens I heard.

[SGunnem 51]

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music. 

[///M5 2,833]

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music.

That is NOT how you measure cone area, not even close.

Pi*R*R or for an 8 - 4*4*Pi.

Of course that is WRONG too. It is just more right than what you posted. Using the Sd from the drivers is what you need to do. A big surround eats way more into an 8 than a 10.

I'd expect the Sd of an 8 to be around 0.02 and the 10 a little bigger than 0.03 (both in meter squared)

[///M5 2,833]

Two tens be a lot cheaper!

my box builder don't build down fire enclosures so I would have to get a fox acoustics enclosure and I don't know how that would work with something a ssd or Q

In my ext cab an upfiring was BY FAR the best solution. The seat is nearly hollow. Bought the most extra room.

Perhaps your box builder is an idiot. Not sure how you can build one type of box and not another.

[SGunnem 51]

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music.

That is NOT how you measure cone area, not even close.

Pi*R*R or for an 8 - 4*4*Pi.

Of course that is WRONG too. It is just more right than what you posted. Using the Sd from the drivers is what you need to do. A big surround eats way more into an 8 than a 10.

I'd expect the Sd of an 8 to be around 0.02 and the 10 a little bigger than 0.03 (both in meter squared)

u been here too much for too long

[swift 501]

 

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music.

That is NOT how you measure cone area, not even close.

Pi*R*R or for an 8 - 4*4*Pi.

Of course that is WRONG too. It is just more right than what you posted. Using the Sd from the drivers is what you need to do. A big surround eats way more into an 8 than a 10.

I'd expect the Sd of an 8 to be around 0.02 and the 10 a little bigger than 0.03 (both in meter squared)

u been here too much for too long

Thats your setup in your avatar and you still dont know how to figure cone area??

[mikebingham34 7]

 

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music.

That is NOT how you measure cone area, not even close.

Pi*R*R or for an 8 - 4*4*Pi.

Of course that is WRONG too. It is just more right than what you posted. Using the Sd from the drivers is what you need to do. A big surround eats way more into an 8 than a 10.

I'd expect the Sd of an 8 to be around 0.02 and the 10 a little bigger than 0.03 (both in meter squared)

u been here too much for too long

No, your just pissed because you are new here. I can tell your profile pic is not yours...

[SGunnem 51]

 

 

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music.

That is NOT how you measure cone area, not even close.

Pi*R*R or for an 8 - 4*4*Pi.

Of course that is WRONG too. It is just more right than what you posted. Using the Sd from the drivers is what you need to do. A big surround eats way more into an 8 than a 10.

I'd expect the Sd of an 8 to be around 0.02 and the 10 a little bigger than 0.03 (both in meter squared)

u been here too much for too long

No, your just pissed because you are new here. I can tell your profile pic is not yours...

 

pissed?  lol.  I said that because he said I'm wrong then said he's wrong too, then never gave any good information.  Regardless of how I measured cone area, the 8's have more than the 10's. 

 

So you guys can attack my PROFILE PIC (not avatar) it's cool nolifers haha. 

 

And obviously the picture is not mine, and I never said it was, but you should be able to tell that from the business cards all in the weather strip.   

[Lschevy 3]

Two tens be a lot cheaper!

my box builder don't build down fire enclosures so I would have to get a fox acoustics enclosure and I don't know how that would work with something a ssd or Q

In my ext cab an upfiring was BY FAR the best solution. The seat is nearly hollow. Bought the most extra room.

Perhaps your box builder is an idiot. Not sure how you can build one type of box and not another.

actually we talked about it for a while I wanted to go with two high power 10's... he told me I would need a depth of 10 inches. I would have to raise my seat. that's when he suggested that I go with the 8's

[shizzzon 461]

 

 

 

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music.

That is NOT how you measure cone area, not even close.

Pi*R*R or for an 8 - 4*4*Pi.

Of course that is WRONG too. It is just more right than what you posted. Using the Sd from the drivers is what you need to do. A big surround eats way more into an 8 than a 10.

I'd expect the Sd of an 8 to be around 0.02 and the 10 a little bigger than 0.03 (both in meter squared)

u been here too much for too long

No, your just pissed because you are new here. I can tell your profile pic is not yours...

 

pissed?  lol.  I said that because he said I'm wrong then said he's wrong too, then never gave any good information.  Regardless of how I measured cone area, the 8's have more than the 10's. 

 

So you guys can attack my PROFILE PIC (not avatar) it's cool nolifers haha. 

 

And obviously the picture is not mine, and I never said it was, but you should be able to tell that from the business cards all in the weather strip.   

 

 

By using your math, you would agree that 2 10s is better than 1 18 in terms of cone area when in fact it takes almost a full 3 12s to equal that of 1 18.

 

Using pi r^2 doesn't help although competitions use this method for easier class definition.

 

 

The longer you do something, the better you get.  ///M5 has been here for more than 2 weeks, hell probably been in the audio scene for at least 2 decades.

[Impious 1,476]

pissed?  lol.  I said that because he said I'm wrong then said he's wrong too, then never gave any good information.  Regardless of how I measured cone area, the 8's have more than the 10's. 

 

So you guys can attack my PROFILE PIC (not avatar) it's cool nolifers haha. 

 

And obviously the picture is not mine, and I never said it was, but you should be able to tell that from the business cards all in the weather strip.   

The other issue is that cone area is only half of the equation to output.  The other half is excursion, which combined with cone area results in total volume displacement (Vd).  And total volume displacement is what really matters and is what determines output.  Cone area itself is useless, as is any other single loudspeaker specification. 

 

So either option having more cone area than the other itself is meaningless.  You would need to determine Vd in that enclosure volume with the applied power to determine which would ultimately have more output and over what bandwidth, as alignment is going to matter in regards to output as well.

[Lschevy 3]

so do you guys think i should look for an 8" woofer with high xmax

[Impious 1,476]

What is your budget?

[Lschevy 3]

I want to keep it under $600

[Sencheezy 689]

Two tens be a lot cheaper!

 

Depends on what 10s he buys.

 

8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music. 

 

Wrong, so wrong.

[ricksi30 923]

Two tens be a lot cheaper!

 

Depends on what 10s he buys.

 

>8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music. 

 

Wrong, so wrong.

 

Lol basic math people! And like Sean said, using the SD is the best way to compare.

[SGunnem 51]

 

Two tens be a lot cheaper!

 

Depends on what 10s he buys.

 

>8 X 4 = 32

10 x 2 = 20

 

8" wins the cone area fight.  If you can stretch your budget a little more, I have seen 2 sundown 8" do a 146 on music.

 

 

Wrong, so wrong.

Lol basic math people! And like Sean said, using the SD is the best way to compare.

 

 

who is Sean and you guys are too technical.  four 8's have more cone area than two 10's.  idc if theyre made out of cardboard with a 3 foot long driver.