Oxygen audio amps

[SacredTanakh 67]

Ive heard good things about their amps, and I love the volt meter on the air models.

Are the specs accurate on these, and are they good quality?

They are dirt cheap, 134$ for the t700 with shipping to AK added on amazon.

 

I was thinking of getting the t700 to put on the Dcons if it would be better then the soundstream rubicon 2.600 that I currently have.

Couldn't find any actual reviews on them though.

 

 

Thought I'd ask for your opinions, lot of smart people here. Thanks guys.

Edited March 24, 2013 by SacredTanakh

[ricksi30 923]

Ive heard good things about their amps, and I love the volt meter on the air models.

Are the specs accurate on these, and are they good quality?

They are dirt cheap, 134$ for the t700 with shipping to AK added on amazon.

 

I was thinking of getting the t700 to put on the Dcons if it would be better then the soundstream rubicon 2.600 that I currently have.

Couldn't find any actual reviews on them though.

 

 

Thought I'd ask for your opinions, lot of smart people here. Thanks guys.

No it won't sound better.

[SacredTanakh 67]

Ive heard good things about their amps, and I love the volt meter on the air models.

Are the specs accurate on these, and are they good quality?

They are dirt cheap, 134$ for the t700 with shipping to AK added on amazon.

 

I was thinking of getting the t700 to put on the Dcons if it would be better then the soundstream rubicon 2.600 that I currently have.

Couldn't find any actual reviews on them though.

 

 

Thought I'd ask for your opinions, lot of smart people here. Thanks guys.

No it won't sound better.

Yeah I thought so, Im just gonna set my sites on the rockford 750.1. Its only $200 and they supposedly come over spec, so why not.

[Impious 1,476]

Why spend the money on a new amp?  If the power is going to be reasonably close to the same you still are not going to hear any difference.  Seems like a waste of money to buy something that does exactly the same thing as what you have now.

 

Where did you hear it comes "over spec"?  Even IF it is somewhat underrated, it won't be enough to matter.  People put way too much emphasis on an amplifier being "underrated".....you aren't getting a bargain or a deal, and you aren't going to hear a difference.  They intentionally designed the amplifier to do everything it does and have accounted for all of the parts and design in the price.  It does exactly what they wanted it to do, and you are being charged for everything that it does.  They just chose to print a different power rating on the box.  That's it.

[SacredTanakh 67]

Why spend the money on a new amp?  If the power is going to be reasonably close to the same you still are not going to hear any difference.  Seems like a waste of money to buy something that does exactly the same thing as what you have now.

 

Where did you hear it comes "over spec"?  Even IF it is somewhat underrated, it won't be enough to matter.  People put way too much emphasis on an amplifier being "underrated".....you aren't getting a bargain or a deal, and you aren't going to hear a difference.  They intentionally designed the amplifier to do everything it does and have accounted for all of the parts and design in the price.  It does exactly what they wanted it to do, and you are being charged for everything that it does.  They just chose to print a different power rating on the box.  That's it.

Because the sounstream amp probably puts out 200-250, Id rather have more then I need and still get the same sound so that I don't risk clipping like I am now.

I am planning a new build but id rather have everything right in the mean time, before I start buying stuff for the new build.

That was my logic at least, and honestly I like trying new things and seeing how they work out.

 

At the same time I do see what your saying, when I bought what I have now it was mostly impulse buys and from advice given to me, not much planning.

Next build I've learned enough to completely plan it out, and I'm not going to use any of the equipment I have now.

Edited March 24, 2013 by SacredTanakh

[ricksi30 923]

I would spend my money elsewhere, the amp that you have now is fine.

[Impious 1,476]

Why spend the money on a new amp?  If the power is going to be reasonably close to the same you still are not going to hear any difference.  Seems like a waste of money to buy something that does exactly the same thing as what you have now.

 

Where did you hear it comes "over spec"?  Even IF it is somewhat underrated, it won't be enough to matter.  People put way too much emphasis on an amplifier being "underrated".....you aren't getting a bargain or a deal, and you aren't going to hear a difference.  They intentionally designed the amplifier to do everything it does and have accounted for all of the parts and design in the price.  It does exactly what they wanted it to do, and you are being charged for everything that it does.  They just chose to print a different power rating on the box.  That's it.

Because the sounstream amp probably puts out 200-250, Id rather have more then I need and still get the same sound so that I don't risk clipping like I am now.

I am planning a new build but id rather have everything right in the mean time, before I start buying stuff for the new build.

That was my logic at least, and honestly I like trying new things and seeing how they work out.

Again, you doing nothing but guessing.  What facts do you have to support either premise that the Soundstream is overrated or that the RF is underrated? 

 

Clipping has to do with your settings, not the amplifier.

 

Sounds like you're trying to throw money at a problem that exists in your mind, not in your system.  Spend the money where it will make a difference, and right now I have no reason to believe that is the logic you are following.

[SacredTanakh 67]

 

Why spend the money on a new amp?  If the power is going to be reasonably close to the same you still are not going to hear any difference.  Seems like a waste of money to buy something that does exactly the same thing as what you have now.

 

Where did you hear it comes "over spec"?  Even IF it is somewhat underrated, it won't be enough to matter.  People put way too much emphasis on an amplifier being "underrated".....you aren't getting a bargain or a deal, and you aren't going to hear a difference.  They intentionally designed the amplifier to do everything it does and have accounted for all of the parts and design in the price.  It does exactly what they wanted it to do, and you are being charged for everything that it does.  They just chose to print a different power rating on the box.  That's it.

Because the sounstream amp probably puts out 200-250, Id rather have more then I need and still get the same sound so that I don't risk clipping like I am now.

I am planning a new build but id rather have everything right in the mean time, before I start buying stuff for the new build.

That was my logic at least, and honestly I like trying new things and seeing how they work out.

Again, you doing nothing but guessing.  What facts do you have to support either premise that the Soundstream is overrated or that the RF is underrated? 

 

Clipping has to do with your settings, not the amplifier.

 

Sounds like you're trying to throw money at a problem that exists in your mind, not in your system.  Spend the money where it will make a difference, and right now I have no reason to believe that is the logic you are following.

Its common knowledge that soundstream overrates their products, Ive been told that by many. I don't have the equipment to test it, nor an oscope to see whether I'm clipping or not. I do things by ear because that's what I have at this time. From what I can tell I have the gain set correctly, I can barely tell some distortion past 45 on my headunit which is where I like it, But Id rather have a little more room that's all. So yeah its more a psychological need to make it better. any improvement in my book is good.

 

anyways, I'll probably focus on an alternator instead, because that's the base for every system really.

Edited March 24, 2013 by SacredTanakh

[Impious 1,476]

Its common knowledge that soundstream overrates their products, Ive been told that by many.

 

And it's a load of bullshit.  With very few exceptions, every single time someone says that it's bullshit.  You're simply gullible if you believe it.  Ask for PROOF, and those people can never provide it.  Because it's "common knowledge", and they heard that "common knowledge" from someone else who couldn't provide a lick of evidence and were stupid enough to believe it.  The actual measurements I've seen of the newer SS amps have all met rated power.  I see no reason to expect otherwise.

 

I do things by ear because that's what I have at this time.

 

Good.

 

But Id rather have a little more room that's all. So yeah its more a psychological need to make it better. any improvement in my book is good.

 

Wasted money isn't good.  I'm assuming you are running the SS amp at 2ohm per channel or bridged into 4ohm giving your subs right around 300w a piece, there realistically isn't a power "upgrade" from that without changing subwoofers since you are right at the driver's rated power handling.  Increasing power enough to be audible isn't going to be beneficial as by that point you will be far exceeding the thermal limitations of the driver.

 

[jonbearsmt 919]

 

Are the specs accurate on these, and are they good quality?

They are dirt cheap,

 

 i think you pretty much figured that out on your own ... cant build quality electronics for dirt cheap... you can make trash for dirt cheap./

 

 

 now what that being said there is a guy i know on Fb that is doing a mega build with nothing but there products.. like he says for the price the power is ok. so  he ran with it... but that says nothing.. there are TONS of trash can builds filled with cheap bullshit.

[SacredTanakh 67]

Its common knowledge that soundstream overrates their products, Ive been told that by many.

 

And it's a load of bullshit.  With very few exceptions, every single time someone says that it's bullshit.  You're simply gullible if you believe it.  Ask for PROOF, and those people can never provide it.  Because it's "common knowledge", and they heard that "common knowledge" from someone else who couldn't provide a lick of evidence and were stupid enough to believe it.  The actual measurements I've seen of the newer SS amps have all met rated power.  I see no reason to expect otherwise.

 

 

>>I do things by ear because that's what I have at this time.

 

Good.

 

 

But Id rather have a little more room that's all. So yeah its more a psychological need to make it better. any improvement in my book is good.

 

Wasted money isn't good.  I'm assuming you are running the SS amp at 2ohm per channel or bridged into 4ohm giving your subs right around 300w a piece, there realistically isn't a power "upgrade" from that without changing subwoofers since you are right at the driver's rated power handling.  Increasing power enough to be audible isn't going to be beneficial as by that point you will be far exceeding the thermal limitations of the driver.

 

Huh, alright thanks. Its hard to know a reliable source of information, gotta be more careful apparently.

 

Are the specs accurate on these, and are they good quality?

They are dirt cheap,

 

 i think you pretty much figured that out on your own ... cant build quality electronics for dirt cheap... you can make trash for dirt cheap./

 

 

 now what that being said there is a guy i know on Fb that is doing a mega build with nothing but there products.. like he says for the price the power is ok. so  he ran with it... but that says nothing.. there are TONS of trash can builds filled with cheap bullshit.

I figured so, but I wanted to confirm it just in case.

Edited March 24, 2013 by SacredTanakh

[jonbearsmt 919]

 its cheap enough you can order one and do some personal testing and let us know.. then maybe someone can pick one up to do number testing.

[Impious 1,476]

Huh, alright thanks. Its hard to know a reliable source of information, gotta be more careful apparently.

 

Question everything that isn't accompanied by suitable evidence.  This applies to most things in life, not just audio.

 

I had a 5 page argument on another forum years ago because it was "common knowledge" that Sony amps were over rated.  Yet when I presented 3 different tests of 3 different amplifiers from 3 different sources and every single one of them met rated power, it was still disputed because of the "common knowledge".