GCON 12 AMP & QUESTIONS

[mjay2k 0]

Hello! This is my first post here. Crossing my fingers that I'm not breaking any forum rules. I have a 12 inch GCON ordered and the wait is killing me already. I've already purchased an amp and box for this sub and I'd like to have any willing opinions on my choices. 

 

The amp:

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_43132_Hifonics-GLX1800.1D.html

 

The enclosure:

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_19279_Belva-Sub-Box-1SV12B-Belva.html

 

 

A few questions:

• How did I do? Will this pound like crazy? 
• How much impact will my smaller than suggest enclosure have on the sound? Ported good?
• How should I wire this beast-sub to this amp? (I'm thinking just running it at 650w @ 4ohms to avoid problems with the following...)
• Will I need to upgrade my factory wiring in my ride? My battery? My alternator?
• If I did wire it for 1200w @ 2ohms would this be bad for the sub? (considering I don't roll around pounding at super high volume levels, plus the gain would probably be turned down in this scenario) 

It's going to be a long wait for this puppy. I'm fairly certain (hopeful) this will be the best system I've ever owned. A couple a months ago my humble 300w amp and single 12" infinity sub was stolen. My wife gave me a 500 budget to replace it with our tax money.. yea.. $490 spent so far, honey!

 

Thanks for your feedback and thoughts my fellow bass-lovers.

 

 

Edit: Oh I forgot one more question! My car currently has a 4 gauge power wired to the trunk. I think if I wire it for 4 ohms I'll be safe right? What would happen if I wired it for 2 ohms?  

Edited March 15, 2013 by mjay2k

[lithium 358]

enclosure is shit and the amp was a waste considering its rated over 3x what a single gcon is rated to handle. ya your can wire it to 4ohm if you got a d2 ohm sub, but a 100-150$ amp could have done the job just fine. 

Edited March 15, 2013 by lithium

[altoncustomtech 773]

The amp at four ohms is fine and gives room to upgrade later. However that enclosure isn't the direction you should go at all. Aside from being a bit on the small side there's not enough port area nor is there any way of knowing what it's tuned to. It will work but its kind of like putting a $100,000 race engine in a Pinto. Just far from ideal. A custom built enclosure is the only way to go.

[mjay2k 0]

can wire it to 4ohm if you got a d2 ohm sub 

 

Um. Am I in trouble that I went with the d4 one, then? 

[16K 159]

With one D4 sub you can wire it to 2 or 8 ohms...

You can use one side of the coil and get 4 ohms...

http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurationsm.asp

[mjay2k 0]

Okay. So I think I should have done more research before pulling the trigger.

 

I think I have 2 options:

A. Go 2ohms, with this http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_44490_Hifonics-ZRX1000.1D.html and sell the other amp

B. Get my order switched to a d2 instead of a d4

 

Which should I do? 

[A.SMALL 17]

I'm pretty sure it'll be easier to return/exchange the amp for something smaller than it would be to get your order with SSA changed..

[CrazyKenKid 64]

My suggestion is to

-Return the box

-Return the amp

-Build your own box if you need help pay ram design 20$ to give you the proper spec on the box and have home depot cut the sizes out then assemble

- pick the correct amp to match the impedance of the sub

And go from that in regards to the 4gauge wiring using it for now and in the future if you upgrade the sub(s) the wiring will need to be upgraded also.

Good luck and always ask for help if you are unsure

[16K 159]

see if ssa can change the order... if not guess you gotta sell the amp and get a new one lol

[eggyhustles 33]

keep the first amp and just wire to 4 ohms, bro.

Edited March 15, 2013 by eggyhustles

[lithium 358]

unless that first amp was really cheap i would have gone with this, http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17785_Boston-Acoustics-GT-2125.html

[mjay2k 0]

OKAY! I decided to get a new amp. Found out my car is only equipped with 8 gauge wire (OOPS!) so here are the amps I'm thinking about going with:

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17368_Rockford-Fosgate-PRIME-R500-1.html

 

Looks about perfect, no? 

 

The other one I was considering is this one:

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_33401_JVC-KS-AX3101D.html

 

 

Thoughts? LOL thanks for your input guys. I'm a noob and a half.

 

 

Any thoughts?

[altoncustomtech 773]

At this point I would be much more worried about the enclosure than the amp.  The sub could be operated on that amp at 2 ohms as long as you watched your gain setting and listened for stress.

 

What do you mean "equipped" with 8 gauge wire?  Is there existing wire in the car from a previous owner?  Are you not planning to purchase and install your own power and ground wires?

[mjay2k 0]

 Well I'm going to go ahead and use my pinto of a vehicle for this epic sub. For now. If I'm not satisfied with the sound then I may be getting then a bigger better box sooner rather than later. However, I've never had a system this nice, and with a little girl on the way having some trunk space will likely prove handy.

 

Back when I got the first system installed in this car (updated all the speakers and put in a much more peasant sub & amp) I went with 8 gauge I guess to save money. At the time I never figured I'd need much more. And getting that RF amp above, maybe I won't. Regardless, it may be a source of upgrade at some point. Maybe with my next vehicle. Better amp, box, and wiring to go with the super hero sub. I'm pretty sure I'll be pleased with my set up even with a crappy box. At least it's nice knowing my sub (at least for my taste) is future proof.

 

...I would be much more worried about the enclosure than the amp...What do you mean "equipped" with 8 gauge...

[gprestonmoto 89]

I don't mean to be a dick, but why? SSA with a prefab box is NOT like putting a 100,000$ engine in a pinto. At least the engine could scream, this is more like having a big dick that all the ladies want and it's limp as a slinky. Not only are you wasting money on something amazing, you're not using it ANYWHERE near it's potential. Don't take this as insulting, I'm trying to do the sub justice.

[pmureika 31]

Matching the sub to the box is more important then the amount of power your running.

[mjay2k 0]

Well, I don't have the budget to drop 200-300+ on a box at the moment. If you can suggest an affordable box that would be appropriate for this sub, I'll likely bite.

 

Like I said, at some point I'll probably upgrade it. Maybe it would be a fun project to try to take on myself. I'll let you guys know how good/bad I think it sounds with this crap box. 

[pmureika 31]

Well, I don't have the budget to drop 200-300+ on a box at the moment. If you can suggest an affordable box that would be appropriate for this sub, I'll likely bite.

 

Like I said, at some point I'll probably upgrade it. Maybe it would be a fun project to try to take on myself. I'll let you guys know how good/bad I think it sounds with this crap box. 

Is there someone local that can build the box? Or maybe you can? there are people willing to help.

Edited March 18, 2013 by pmureika

[gprestonmoto 89]

I would fork the money for one of the pro's here to get you a design. Then head on down to Lowe's. It would probably come out the same price or less than the box you ordered. The design is the hard part. It doesn't take a ton of knowledge to actually build the box. I'm sure you can handle it. If not, a case of beer and some friends goes a long way.

[mjay2k 0]

Couldn't I just use the recommended specs and punch it into that reaudio thing?