Welcome to the IHoP v.2

[ssh 924]

Stefan, curious how you found tightvnc and why you selected it.

 

Only ask because I feel like an absolute computer idiot on here regularly although in regular life my friends consider my knowledge in that regard in a complete opposite light.

 

When I think of vnc (remote desktop) I think of TightVNC and RealVNC, and I get the names mixed up, but I remember them being super straight forward. So if TightVNC ends up being a pain try realvnc.

 

As to how I found it, I honestly don't remember, I've been using it for years. Just another thing I've picked up over the last six years meddling with computers.

[///M5 2,833]

Just sort of an abstract need.

[///M5 2,833]

Trying to get a Droid to sync calendar and phone contacts without an exchange server is not working for me.  Of course, caveat being without cost.  I'm sure I've burned more time on this than a pay solution is worth but fuck going back now!

[ssh 924]

And ugh, wtf Windows. Trying to mirror my dad's old pc drive. The Documents & Settings/Windows/Program Files folders don't copy so nice.

ie, I copy them and the source is WAY larger than the end location. I want it all off IDE so I can scrap the drive but backed in case he forgot something (like backing up his Quicken file - ). I know if I don't, it'll be a headache later.

Windows vista/7/8 is fucking stupid with all the owner permissions. Total royal pain in the ass. If for some reason it's still being problematic after changing owner settings download a Linux live-cd to a usb drive, boot from the usb-drive, and use it to copy and paste over, it won't give you any grief. It's a bit of an over the top solution, but downloading, copying to usb drive, and booting would take less than 15 minutes.

[///M5 2,833]

Sync being to Outlook on a pc

[///M5 2,833]

And ugh, wtf Windows. Trying to mirror my dad's old pc drive. The Documents & Settings/Windows/Program Files folders don't copy so nice.

ie, I copy them and the source is WAY larger than the end location. I want it all off IDE so I can scrap the drive but backed in case he forgot something (like backing up his Quicken file - ). I know if I don't, it'll be a headache later.

Windows vista/7/8 is fucking stupid with all the owner permissions. Total royal pain in the ass. If for some reason it's still being problematic after changing owner settings download a Linux live-cd to a usb drive, boot from the usb-drive, and use it to copy and paste over, it won't give you any grief. It's a bit of an over the top solution, but downloading, copying to usb drive, and booting would take less than 15 minutes.

It's even more fun since it is an old IDE drive.  I have no IDE ports but one of my old ass USB HDD enclosures does.  I've seen a high of 9MB/s

[///M5 2,833]

Not so unamusingly I actually use this as a regular piece for backup; however, when you use a SATA drive it allows an e-sata connection which rips pretty decent.

[ssh 924]

Trying to get a Droid to sync calendar and phone contacts without an exchange server is not working for me.  Of course, caveat being without cost.  I'm sure I've burned more time on this than a pay solution is worth but fuck going back now!

Another PITA I've dealt with. For my father we copied his calendar into a Google account, and synced with that, but it wasn't reliable. We finally ended up copying the calendar over to an exchange server.

 

If you find another solution let me know.

[ssh 924]

 

And ugh, wtf Windows. Trying to mirror my dad's old pc drive. The Documents & Settings/Windows/Program Files folders don't copy so nice.

ie, I copy them and the source is WAY larger than the end location. I want it all off IDE so I can scrap the drive but backed in case he forgot something (like backing up his Quicken file - ). I know if I don't, it'll be a headache later.

Windows vista/7/8 is fucking stupid with all the owner permissions. Total royal pain in the ass. If for some reason it's still being problematic after changing owner settings download a Linux live-cd to a usb drive, boot from the usb-drive, and use it to copy and paste over, it won't give you any grief. It's a bit of an over the top solution, but downloading, copying to usb drive, and booting would take less than 15 minutes.

It's even more fun since it is an old IDE drive.  I have no IDE ports but one of my old ass USB HDD enclosures does.  I've seen a high of 9MB/s

Oh fuck. That's pretty funny cause when I read your earlier post with "IDE" I didn't understand.

[ssh 924]

Just sort of an abstract need.

I love being able to look at all my porn from my desktop on my Ipad while at the same time being able to use mspaint or calculator.

 

It's handy when I have something going on the desktop and I'm in the living room on the laptop, or if I'm out of town and need to check something on the desktop where SSH won't suffice.

Other than that I don't use it that often.

[///M5 2,833]

And ugh, wtf Windows. Trying to mirror my dad's old pc drive. The Documents & Settings/Windows/Program Files folders don't copy so nice.

ie, I copy them and the source is WAY larger than the end location. I want it all off IDE so I can scrap the drive but backed in case he forgot something (like backing up his Quicken file - ). I know if I don't, it'll be a headache later.

Windows vista/7/8 is fucking stupid with all the owner permissions. Total royal pain in the ass. If for some reason it's still being problematic after changing owner settings download a Linux live-cd to a usb drive, boot from the usb-drive, and use it to copy and paste over, it won't give you any grief. It's a bit of an over the top solution, but downloading, copying to usb drive, and booting would take less than 15 minutes.

After 5 minutes of searching I just realized that downloading one will be the lengthiest process....when it includes figuring out which one.  

[///M5 2,833]

Just sort of an abstract need.

I love being able to look at all my porn from my desktop on my Ipad while at the same time being able to use mspaint or calculator.

 

It's handy when I have something going on the desktop and I'm in the living room on the laptop, or if I'm out of town and need to check something on the desktop where SSH won't suffice.

Other than that I don't use it that often.

When do you use the SSH instead?

 

My common use will be altering something on the house PC while I am at work.  I always multitask and have a ton of shit to do that would be great on another monitor.  I'd rather add an output and monitor and keep my desk otherwise, but have my home pc in the office.  Same thing when I am around the house dicking around on the PC.  Being on the home pc free's up a lot of redundant programming and fuckery to get other shit sync'd to my laptop or other pc's/tablets around the house.

[///M5 2,833]

Since you are making my life fricking easy, I have another question regarding it.

 

Any of these make it so that another person might be using the PC you are VNC'ing into to?  ie, can my wife facebook on the home pc while I log in and alter the home automation system settings?

[///M5 2,833]

Trying to get a Droid to sync calendar and phone contacts without an exchange server is not working for me.  Of course, caveat being without cost.  I'm sure I've burned more time on this than a pay solution is worth but fuck going back now!

Another PITA I've dealt with. For my father we copied his calendar into a Google account, and synced with that, but it wasn't reliable. We finally ended up copying the calendar over to an exchange server.

 

If you find another solution let me know.

He has AOL & Gmail....I don't know of an exchange server solution for either of those.  Not opposed to that if there is.

 

Gsyncit is $19

Google App Sync is a monthly or $50/yr 

 

AOL has an app that supposedly does some syncing.  Seems spotty after a few tries.  Also requires a key push and he won't remember that.

[///M5 2,833]

Most important would be while I am in the house.  Working over the net has some value as well though.

[///M5 2,833]

Fuck.  Actually thinking about it, the value would be huge to me.  I currently write a different graphical user interface for my tablet when the one on windows would be fine.  Fucking tablet communication is a third party software that farts ALL the time.

[ssh 924]

Most important would be while I am in the house.  Working over the net has some value as well though.

Change the default port vnc is using, port forward the router, use a strong password, and over the net you go! As long as internet speed is decent.

[ssh 924]

 

And ugh, wtf Windows. Trying to mirror my dad's old pc drive. The Documents & Settings/Windows/Program Files folders don't copy so nice.

ie, I copy them and the source is WAY larger than the end location. I want it all off IDE so I can scrap the drive but backed in case he forgot something (like backing up his Quicken file - ). I know if I don't, it'll be a headache later.

Windows vista/7/8 is fucking stupid with all the owner permissions. Total royal pain in the ass. If for some reason it's still being problematic after changing owner settings download a Linux live-cd to a usb drive, boot from the usb-drive, and use it to copy and paste over, it won't give you any grief. It's a bit of an over the top solution, but downloading, copying to usb drive, and booting would take less than 15 minutes.

After 5 minutes of searching I just realized that downloading one will be the lengthiest process....when it includes figuring out which one.  

Ubuntu is straight forward. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=lts&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc

 

Download http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ for windows, use it to put the iso file to a usb drive, or burn iso file to cd/dvd. Restart computer, boot into ubuntu, select "try live cd" if it asks.

 

 

Just sort of an abstract need.

I love being able to look at all my porn from my desktop on my Ipad while at the same time being able to use mspaint or calculator.

 

It's handy when I have something going on the desktop and I'm in the living room on the laptop, or if I'm out of town and need to check something on the desktop where SSH won't suffice.

Other than that I don't use it that often.

When do you use the SSH instead?

 

My common use will be altering something on the house PC while I am at work.  I always multitask and have a ton of shit to do that would be great on another monitor.  I'd rather add an output and monitor and keep my desk otherwise, but have my home pc in the office.  Same thing when I am around the house dicking around on the PC.  Being on the home pc free's up a lot of redundant programming and fuckery to get other shit sync'd to my laptop or other pc's/tablets around the house.

I use ssh for anything that doesn't use a gui. So if I need to open a text file, edit source code, or run a program then it's all ssh.

 

Since you are making my life fricking easy, I have another question regarding it.

 

Any of these make it so that another person might be using the PC you are VNC'ing into to?  ie, can my wife facebook on the home pc while I log in and alter the home automation system settings?

That I'm not sure about. I'll have to start up windows and test with my laptop later.

[ssh 924]

It's funny sometimes my mother's friend will have some computer problem, and to make everything super simple I'll tell her to go to a webpage ie: stefanhinote.com/givemeaccess and it'll run an exploit on the browser to spawn a vnc process than I can connect to her desktop and fix her problem. Or she changed her email password doesn't remember what it is, but it still works on her phone, So I connect to her desktop, arp spoof the network, catch the email password when the phone checks every 15min, and copy it over to the desktop. Last time she changed her windows password so I had to physically get up and drive down.

[///M5 2,833]

I have a hard time with the make an access tunnel for one computer and having it not be for anyone else more clever than me.  Perhaps that door is already readily there though.

 

Obviously if I could see/control my dad's computer remotely it would save me the time of setting up a webex and such.  Considering I am building it right now installing anything I want on it is easy.

[///M5 2,833]

Had planned on installing all the software to run off the SSD C drive and all data on the Z drive.  Have backed up the Z and will sync every few weeks and was going to use Macrium to duplicate the bootable drive.

 

That being said, would ripping it in Linux make more sense?  I really want everything copied so if he fucks it up and can just rip it back independent of the data.

[ssh 924]

Had planned on installing all the software to run off the SSD C drive and all data on the Z drive.  Have backed up the Z and will sync every few weeks and was going to use Macrium to duplicate the bootable drive.

 

That being said, would ripping it in Linux make more sense?  I really want everything copied so if he fucks it up and can just rip it back independent of the data.

If you open the drive in windows and copy & paste everything over to another drive without any errors popping up than using linux to do the same would be pointless. You can also right click on the drive, see the info on how many files total and GB size then check against everything you copied over to the other drive. Making sure the file count is the same, and the GB size is same. But if copying the stuff in windows works for ten minutes than shows a red progress bar with some BS error than I'd just use linux to play it safe.

[///M5 2,833]

We'll see in the AM.  Has another 4 hours to go.  

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Assuming I copy a complete boot drive onto another drive and then swap them the system should boot like the original no?

[ssh 924]

I have a hard time with the make an access tunnel for one computer and having it not be for anyone else more clever than me.  Perhaps that door is already readily there though.

 

Obviously if I could see/control my dad's computer remotely it would save me the time of setting up a webex and such.  Considering I am building it right now installing anything I want on it is easy.

 

Switching SSH/VNC over to a different port than the service usually uses will help negate random servers from trying to connect to your IP. You can also setup a firewall to only accept connections from specific IPs. IE: at work you go to some site like whatsmyip.org, write it down, and add it to the safe list on the firewall on the home computer. The only tricky part is some networks don't have static IPs so after some time your work IP may change and now it won't be able to connect home. If the latter happens there's ways to get around it, but I won't go into detail unless it becomes an issue. So between obfuscation, firewall, and a strong password I would consider it pretty damn safe.

[///M5 2,833]

Remotely I'd mostly be in a hotel, but if that sacrifices security I can limit the locations.