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I'd start it 4 hours early.  Will give you plenty o'time to stabilize.  Once stabilized don't be afraid of adding more fuel.  Also, expect a drop when you first put on the meat, but as long as you are developing smoke and keep the fire going that is fine.  Meat only absorbs smoke when it is cold.


The downfall of the egg for a smoker is that it is so efficient that you don't get a shit ton of smoke since it doesn't chow fuel.  This means you need to maximize what you do give it if you want that smoky goodness.  Enough so, I thought about building an external smoke generator for it, lol.

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I've never had a problem getting smoke, it seems to just roll smoke for the first couple hours.  I cheat the stabilize time, start, get it up to temp, throw the smoke wood on, then toss the meat.  I throw the meat in with a cold egg and smoke for as long as possible and haven't had a problem with temp overshoot yet.  

 

No one said it was a smart idea though.  

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The egg is the bomb. I am actually thinking about getting an XL.

I cannot smoke full 3 full racks without getting creative.

I may play around with keeping a nice low temp this week and get a big brisket for the weekend

 

 

I'd start with some pork shoulder, pork is rather forgiving.  Even if you blow the temp for a bit, it'll still come out really tasty.  

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I never said there was a problem getting smoke, it just won't replace a "pit" if that is the flavor you are looking for.  Personally the lip smacking goodness that it brings easily conquers what it lacks and I find it better in every way.

 

The injector I was actually thinking of for more cold smoke products and potentially to do just a kickstart to see how it goes.

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i was also thinking the MS8 because it should be the most simple to set up.. . seems like the mic feedback system is simple.  and would work well.

 

I was not impressed with the MS8. Only way I could get it to approach decent sound was by disabling the auto tune (also happens to remove T/A, which sucks), and spending six months tweaking the settings. Ordered a minidsp, used the xo settings from the MS8 as a starting point, and after an hour everything sounded better--zero compromise.

 

The auto tune on the MS8 in my install made the sound sterile, lifeless, and robbed me of my midbass. Tuning was an absolute bitching having to run through the setup wizard everytime you wanted to change a filter setting.

 

Just my two cents.

 

ever try the REW auto tune to compare against the ms8 auto tune? i'm guessing both are equally shit

 

I have not--don't have a mic.

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I'd start it 4 hours early. Will give you plenty o'time to stabilize. Once stabilized don't be afraid of adding more fuel. Also, expect a drop when you first put on the meat, but as long as you are developing smoke and keep the fire going that is fine. Meat only absorbs smoke when it is cold.

The downfall of the egg for a smoker is that it is so efficient that you don't get a shit ton of smoke since it doesn't chow fuel. This means you need to maximize what you do give it if you want that smoky goodness. Enough so, I thought about building an external smoke generator for it, lol.

At least I am not alone. I was thinking about something similar.....

We must be twins.

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i was also thinking the MS8 because it should be the most simple to set up.. . seems like the mic feedback system is simple.  and would work well.

 

I was not impressed with the MS8. Only way I could get it to approach decent sound was by disabling the auto tune (also happens to remove T/A, which sucks), and spending six months tweaking the settings. Ordered a minidsp, used the xo settings from the MS8 as a starting point, and after an hour everything sounded better--zero compromise.

 

The auto tune on the MS8 in my install made the sound sterile, lifeless, and robbed me of my midbass. Tuning was an absolute bitching having to run through the setup wizard everytime you wanted to change a filter setting.

 

Just my two cents.

 

ever try the REW auto tune to compare against the ms8 auto tune? i'm guessing both are equally shit

 

I have not--don't have a mic.

REW works for sub bass. Much easier for that though.

Any technique that doesn't use a maxima length sequence or impulse response with and custom time windowing is flawed at higher frequencies and will never work.

Getting a cheap mic to maintain phase consistency and response that is good enough to do these measurements is far from trivial as well.

I've been meaning to do a comparison with doing this with the mic that came with my Onkyo and then my Bruel & Kjaer measurement mic, but that sounds like effort for something I've already setup. Doh.gif

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I need to keep a few cases of fresh/summer/girly beer on hand for when I am working on vehicles.

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You guys ever have one of those days where you don't have beer and so you make a vodka soda and lime to work up your nerves to do some car work, and then realize that 2/5 of vodka may be too much because you have to pick up your wife in a few hours to go see a lawyer about the non profit you are supposed to be running?

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Me neither. Takes a lot more than a half liter of vodka to get me tipsy for that long.

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I need to keep a few cases of fresh/summer/girly beer on hand for when I am working on vehicles.

Surly Hell

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I need to keep a few cases of fresh/summer/girly beer on hand for when I am working on vehicles.

Surly Hell
Not as affordable, but yummy!

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Have you tried Bells Hop Slam?

I got a mini keg and it was one of my faves... but if you don't drink it all that night it skunks up ASAP

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Haven't had the hop slam yet. Funny since for years I was first in line for any new Bells. SO MANY good options today though

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My memory of hopslam is a goooooood one. Try it when it comes out. It's a once a year kinda thing.

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It is a winter beer or else I would buy a case and we would get out on that boat!

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I've been working my seats for a few days now, still not finished but could not resist not posting.

 

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Seriously. ... the fucking nut on the wifes cobalt it fucking stuck.

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2 minidsp 2x4's on the way! was going to wait a bit longer to order them but i'm itching for a new project. stephan or sean, what plugin do i need? (mind sending it to me so i can try it out on my macbook. the os is out of date so I'd like to see if it will still work) 

Depends on what you need for crossovers.

I'm running 3way + sub so its either the 4 way plugin with each minidsp running the left or right speakers exclusively. or the 2 way plugin with the minidsp running pairs of speaker (tweets and midrange on one, midbass sub on the other). I'm thinking it might be easier to use the two 2 way plug ins. You also get another set of 6 pEQ bands. 

 

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I've been working my seats for a few days now, still not finished but could not resist not posting.

 

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That's coming together nicely!

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