Welcome to the IHoP v.2

[ssh 924]

^Dropping the hammer on everyone.

Edited April 4, 2013 by stefanhinote

[///M5 2,833]

Jeeps are nice vehicles. They look nice, they ride nice, they are well appointed... But everything under the hood is shit.

If I get one it'll be an SRT...and under warranty the whole time I own it.

[///M5 2,833]

Like my Benz which i am UBER scared to own out of warranty

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Is there really any truck/sport ute out there that doesn't have high failure rates anymore?

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

speaking of, my parent's '10 Silverado is going to need a belt soon @ 60,000 miles.

[///M5 2,833]

75k miles on my Benz and the only failures are wear items except a $15 wire harness. I didn't realize there was anything on the truck that was under $50, lol.

[///M5 2,833]

NOTHING first year is safe at all. That is probably worse from any brand than the next worses 2nd year.

[Godsmack 361]

J, the Bach party is the weekend of the 12th so I have about a week and a half to get order the cigars.

We would be having them with whiskey, probably well after some steaks. I prefer a fatter cigar because I think it looks cool. Don't know on the burn time so I say middle of the road. Budget... No idea $7 per cigar looking for 6 total?

Go to www.cigarsinternational.com and check their pricing out.

I would suggest the following brands

Gurkha

- Evil

- Centurion

- Black Dragon

Acid (Drew Estate)

- Kuba Kuba

- Kuba Maduro

- 1400cc

Liga Privada No 9 or T 52

Undercrown

Both of the last two are made by Drew Estate as well. The price per stick should be in your range. The Acid lines are flavor enhanced (cured in an oils room for a nice taste for those not drinking a solid whiskey). You will save more buying in a 6 or 10 pack than per stick. Each cigar has it's own flavor profile, and description, but remember like whiskey one man's Woodford Reserve is another man's Jim Beam.

If you get stuck between a few sticks let me know which ones. Once it's narrowed down it will be slightly easier to point you in the right direction. If I was only choosing one stick for myself with a good whiskey it would be the Ligament Privada No. 9 but I tend to like a richer smoke.

I'm really liking the under crown. I think that it will be good for us (including myself) who don't do stogies often.

Another question, should I get a cutter from them. I've read some stuff on the net but can you give me a run down on what you consider the proper way to smoke a cigar.

Great choice. A few suggestions

- Light off a piece of cedar (many sticks come with a cedar wrap to light with). Doesn't alter the flavor profile and smells nice as it burns.

- Next choice is a butane torch. Faster light and typically more even.

- Cutters are fine if there is no objection to the possibility of a little tobacco on your tongue or lips.

- Punch creates a small hole to draw the smoke through, and tends to make the stick burn a little slower, and to some people is the only way to enjoy a smoke.

- If you have one side burning faster than the other rotate the stick about a quarter turn for each of the next few draws.

- DO NOT hot box the stick except to light. It forces the tobacco to burn too hot too fast and creates a hot feeling on the smoke ruining the flavor.

- If storage of the cigars is needed for more than a day or two before the night you can keep them in a cooler or a plastic Ziploc with distiller water in a dish inside. It won't need much. If storing them I would crack open the plastic wrapper by breaking the sticker and it will help them breathe.

Anything else feel free to ask brother.

J

[Godsmack 361]

J you seem to have some MN love. Why not come up here?

We can cruise for strange jammin to atmosphere, smoke stogies, swill bourbon, steal Sean's boat, and go take pictures.

Lol I would love that, but there are some great job prospects in Tampa, a low cost of living, and as much as I miss the snow, the heating bill is not something I'd ever miss.

J

[dem beats 1,223]

J, the Bach party is the weekend of the 12th so I have about a week and a half to get order the cigars.

We would be having them with whiskey, probably well after some steaks. I prefer a fatter cigar because I think it looks cool. Don't know on the burn time so I say middle of the road. Budget... No idea $7 per cigar looking for 6 total?

Go to www.cigarsinternational.com and check their pricing out.

I would suggest the following brands

Gurkha

- Evil

- Centurion

- Black Dragon

Acid (Drew Estate)

- Kuba Kuba

- Kuba Maduro

- 1400cc

Liga Privada No 9 or T 52

Undercrown

Both of the last two are made by Drew Estate as well. The price per stick should be in your range. The Acid lines are flavor enhanced (cured in an oils room for a nice taste for those not drinking a solid whiskey). You will save more buying in a 6 or 10 pack than per stick. Each cigar has it's own flavor profile, and description, but remember like whiskey one man's Woodford Reserve is another man's Jim Beam.

If you get stuck between a few sticks let me know which ones. Once it's narrowed down it will be slightly easier to point you in the right direction. If I was only choosing one stick for myself with a good whiskey it would be the Ligament Privada No. 9 but I tend to like a richer smoke.

I'm really liking the under crown. I think that it will be good for us (including myself) who don't do stogies often.

Another question, should I get a cutter from them. I've read some stuff on the net but can you give me a run down on what you consider the proper way to smoke a cigar.

A fibe dollar cutter for the night is a good investment. If the ring sizes are 50 and up a punch might be a good investment depending on the shape of your stogie. Large rings like a really smallish hole mouth hole. It helps to keep the tobacco heat down especially near the end. So if the mouth end is flat a punch is great. I wouldn't invest in a good cutter unless you plan to pick up the habbit.

Also grab a TON of matches. Do not use a lighter unless someone there already smokes cigars and has a really good butane cigar lighter and uses highly filtered butane. You could also use untreated cedar, just less handy. I got a "cheep" butane lighter and it wouldn't keep butane for more than one cigar and would slowly leak over 24 hours. They apparently require really baller mfg and engineering to make the right for some reason.

If you are outside, seriously, get at least one small box of wood matches per new guy. Maybe more. With large ring sizes and tighter packed ones you can go through a truckload of matches.

I smoke particularly hard to keep lit and long smoking cigars. They are almost all full ligaro and delicate and delicious with bourbon, scotch, or medium dry maderias wine. That last combo will change your fucking world IMHO. I can also say that 6x60 Caine F-1 will make me officially stoned. It's an long commitment but my damn toes tingle by the end. I don't even inhale like smokers, just get the smoke kn my mouth.

Tobacco is one of the most forgiving drugs though. The hold only stays strong if you allow it.

[dem beats 1,223]

I have lucis dreams if I smoke and go to bed. Its pretty crazy.

Normally I only have horrible horrible nightmares but if calm and comming down from a stogie, I will have mellow, vivid, lucid dreams. X

I sleep like shit no matter what so YMMV

[MKader17 332]

Was going to sleep in a little tomorrow Morning but just remembered I have a meeting with some guys in India in the AM. Damn it.....

[Godsmack 361]

I'm looking forward to my day it starting at 5:15 in the am.

J

[Godsmack 361]

Not***

[dem beats 1,223]

I just didn't end yesterday. My PC is shitting the bed a bit with some new drivers etc etc. Windows needed to have its update database wiped and checked for updates, and wiping my old PC changing the RAID and then re-installing everything. Oh yeah. Also going to try to get my taxes done before I see my financial guy in a couple hours.

Edited April 4, 2013 by dem beats

[dem beats 1,223]

Guess who got a new headphone amp????!!???

[dem beats 1,223]

On the dirty dirt cheep too.

[Truconcept 58]

LOL

 

[sandt38 448]

Jeeps are nice vehicles. They look nice, they ride nice, they are well appointed... But everything under the hood is shit.

If I get one it'll be an SRT...and under warranty the whole time I own it.

 

I thought you were looking based on the prospect of buying it outright after the lease period. If so, I would think twice. If not, 36K ownership should be OK.

[dem beats 1,223]

I think that is Sean's goal, but I'm sure he would settle for just having a nice free car for a while rather than buying into a dog.

[dem beats 1,223]

My cousin in law is a wrench lover and tech for a huge local place, and picked went with one of those super duper 300s right before they went to the brand new style.

He loves all the gizmos and readings he can pull. Loves ths MPG and many other things. But he won't work on it. Not for love or money. He has been able to pull a lot from the dealership. Things fell apart right as the warranty ended. He purchased some extension but all kinds of dumb shit went wrong. The ceiling fabric came down. Clocks stopped working. Engine just went funky for a bit. He hasn't paid a cent but now that he switched jobs I think they sold it. Too much fear down the road.

Happened to 2 other fami members and their Durangos too. Warranty died then the car did seconds later.

[dem beats 1,223]

To be fair none of them had an engine explode or anything, but no warning having your car shit the bed and then having some STOOOOOOPID costly repairs suck.

No shops want to work on those dodge engines it seems.

[///M5 2,833]

Jeeps are nice vehicles. They look nice, they ride nice, they are well appointed... But everything under the hood is shit.

If I get one it'll be an SRT...and under warranty the whole time I own it.

 

I thought you were looking based on the prospect of buying it outright after the lease period. If so, I would think twice. If not, 36K ownership should be OK.

Ah, indeed. Sorry, that is if I bought something cheap.

Was hoping that I could buy something (including mods) for $30k. At the end of the lease then I'd buy it for $5k or less and keep it.

Being the Jeep will be $45k at the end of the lease it'll be $25k which means I run the fuck away. Same with my ML or the X6, X5M.

[///M5 2,833]

As usual, I waffle all over the place and end up right back where I started. Why can't I just trust my first instinct.

Sucks though as I really don't want to drive a truck for the next umteen years. I want a car

Of course this means after we move and this lease is up, I'll probably buy an old truck just to tow with.

[sandt38 448]

I think that is Sean's goal, but I'm sure he would settle for just having a nice free car for a while rather than buying into a dog.

 

I wanted to suggest steering clear of the Jeep based on long term ownership.

 

 

 

Jeeps are nice vehicles. They look nice, they ride nice, they are well appointed... But everything under the hood is shit.

If I get one it'll be an SRT...and under warranty the whole time I own it.

 

 

I thought you were looking based on the prospect of buying it outright after the lease period. If so, I would think twice. If not, 36K ownership should be OK.

 

Ah, indeed. Sorry, that is if I bought something cheap.

Was hoping that I could buy something (including mods) for $30k. At the end of the lease then I'd buy it for $5k or less and keep it.

Being the Jeep will be $45k at the end of the lease it'll be $25k which means I run the fuck away. Same with my ML or the X6, X5M.

 

Got ya. Short term a Jeep is nice. But as a friend, I suggest against long term ownership. Keep in mind, I see them in the stalls. Not every vehicle will suffer the things I see in my stall. But when I see pattern failures the vehicles I see them on stand out in my head.

 

As usual, I waffle all over the place and end up right back where I started. Why can't I just trust my first instinct.

Sucks though as I really don't want to drive a truck for the next umteen years. I want a car

Of course this means after we move and this lease is up, I'll probably buy an old truck just to tow with.

 

For a solid older truck, look at mid-late 90s K2500 HDs with the 454 and Alison tranny. Strong tug trucks and super reliable.