Welcome to the IHoP v.2

[dem beats 1,223]

16 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

My research btw is about 15 minutes long...

I have had 5 sets of sure IEMs. I gave them as gifts or sold them until I ended up with the knew I kept for years. Then I grabbed the UE tripple knock offs after the Sure pair had a critical internal failure.

 

The UE knock off shell was more durable even though it was cracked by someone stepping on it and cracking the exterior plastic.  I'm positive the custom Sure would be much better build quality, especially years later, but it's still something I think about.

[dem beats 1,223]

1 hour ago, denim said:

So pretty

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2 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

Holy crap

Remember when I had $1750 in cash a month I needed to blow?

:facepalm:

 

[///M5 2,833]

2 minutes ago, dem beats said:

I have had 5 sets of sure IEMs. I gave them as gifts or sold them until I ended up with the knew I kept for years. Then I grabbed the UE tripple knock offs after the Sure pair had a critical internal failure.

 

The UE knock off shell was more durable even though it was cracked by someone stepping on it and cracking the exterior plastic.  I'm positive the custom Sure would be much better build quality, especially years later, but it's still something I think about.

Etymotic makes a mean in ear response probe microphone.  Everyone who makes IE anything uses them for measuring.  Doesn't mean jack shit for what they design, lol.

My "research" is biased where I know engineers but that also means jack shit.

[///M5 2,833]

4-2 MN

[dem beats 1,223]

6 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

Etymotic makes a mean in ear response probe microphone.  Everyone who makes IE anything uses them for measuring.  Doesn't mean jack shit for what they design, lol.

My "research" is biased where I know engineers but that also means jack shit.

The etomics are what I would call "clinical".  They also lacked bass.  

 

I'm sure a better pair would have had more oomoh.

 

Being cruel to music that wasn't perfect, and the fact that anything bright and overly accurate makes my ears hurt fast is the reason I didn't try anything more expensive from them.  They also had an issue at that time that even sweat moisture could sneak into the shell and cause corrosion.

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11 minutes ago, dem beats said:

The etomics are what I would call "clinical".  They also lacked bass.  

 

I'm sure a better pair would have had more oomoh.

 

Being cruel to music that wasn't perfect, and the fact that anything bright and overly accurate makes my ears hurt fast is the reason I didn't try anything more expensive from them.  They also had an issue at that time that even sweat moisture could sneak into the shell and cause corrosion.

The bottom end naturally gets fatter with a custom.  That was my concern on the etymotics but they share the same profile and can be easily swapped with the Shure's if you get a custom mold to hold them.

[///M5 2,833]

5-3 needed that BAD

[dem beats 1,223]

I'm really going to look into that local place and also Westone a bit more me thinks.

 

The build of the etomics and sure just makes me more nervous.  In truth the UE were on the radar but I thought I should at least try something new since its still kind of a crap shoot to be trial run a custom mold from a regular IEM.

 

 

JH seems interesting too but it seems to be way ovpriced.ced

[dem beats 1,223]

I'm really frustrated with my arms.  I'm back to curling 115 for reps and my arms aren't even 18"

[dem beats 1,223]

The other day I was looking for shorts, and came across a pair of jeans from 15 years ago or something.

 

Whoa.

Ultra stretch denim.  Silver made men's for a while way back.  Easy 3 1/2" drop on the low rise.  

 

Ultra funny.

 

I had to buy a 36" inseam, instead of 32ish, so I could get my thighs into the legs. 

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7 hours ago, ///M5 said:

I would also like to avoid pulling a Seth on these.  They will always be used in a shitty environment and not a listening space so there really is no point.  It is really hard for me to do that though...

I find it impossible to spend that kind of money on what are effectively buds. The very nature of their design/use seems to preclude a serious listening experience.

However, with as much time as you spend on planes, a good inner ear coupled with a FiiO X7 might be an ideal situation...

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Hi.:)

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12 hours ago, denim said:

Should I leak some production photos of the SSA Evil6.5?

Sub?

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Oh joy, more rain.

[///M5 2,833]

3 hours ago, sandt38 said:

I find it impossible to spend that kind of money on what are effectively buds. The very nature of their design/use seems to preclude a serious listening experience.

However, with as much time as you spend on planes, a good inner ear coupled with a FiiO X7 might be an ideal situation...

Ha, I feel the same way but my pinna are so large that any non-custom slides out a bit with just a teeny bit of pressure and destroys the bass response.  I only picked on you above as we have a very similar disease of never taking the simple, easy and cheap way out.  I am trying like hell not to go over board in this regard.....for once.

[///M5 2,833]

Especially because the environment I will use them in is horseshit.  No reason to have a pristine response where the background noise is monstrous.

You should hear my bike go down the trail right now.  People DASH off the side of the trail as I come up behind them.  Running a ton of carbide studs on dry gravel, lol.  And yes, I need summer tires but just haven't gotten to it.

[dem beats 1,223]

4 hours ago, sandt38 said:

I find it impossible to spend that kind of money on what are effectively buds. The very nature of their design/use seems to preclude a serious listening experience.

However, with as much time as you spend on planes, a good inner ear coupled with a FiiO X7 might be an ideal situation...

I have never ever felt any headphones that could compare the the IEMs I have had.  The only experience that was as special were some Grados cans and I hated that they rested on my ears. They were not even close to as detailed but the drum and midbass had so much fun and punch that indidnt care the music was colored.

IEMs can be so brutal and cruel to poorly recorded music. Nothing catches the details. Fingertips on strings and lips against breath guards next to the mix are all reproduced in painful detail. 

 

Bass is also special. You obviously can't feel it like you can with a walk of 18" beasts or anything but it will give your ears the impression you are feeling it. Haven't had an on or around ear headphone do that.  Even the over bass boosted cans have less bass and it's muddy horseshit.

IEMs are the best way to just simply listen. Allong with the attenuation of the background it's gold. At least in any scenario where you want to either not broadcast your music or you want it portable.

 

I only purchased around the ears to change it up from my IEMs when listening home.  Give my canal a break fRom the IEM.

 

They are a better tool for critically listening or being active and listening. The only downside, if there is one, is they can cut down the external noise so much you could be in danger of your around machines or vehicles.

Edited April 19, 2016 by dem beats

[dem beats 1,223]

44 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

Especially because the environment I will use them in is horseshit.  No reason to have a pristine response where the background noise is monstrous.

You should hear my bike go down the trail right now.  People DASH off the side of the trail as I come up behind them.  Running a ton of carbide studs on dry gravel, lol.  And yes, I need summer tires but just haven't gotten to it.

You have custom earplugs. Toss those in and check out how silent everything gets.  Even with the rubber plugs I could shut out almost any soundfloor around me.  The memory foam ones helped even more.

 

I have never had cusom anything for my ears but I'm guessing it will cut even more sound and be even more comfy.

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2 minutes ago, dem beats said:

You have custom earplugs. Toss those in and check out how silent everything gets.  Even with the rubber plugs I could shut out almost any soundfloor around me.  The memory foam ones helped even more.

 

I have never had cusom anything for my ears but I'm guessing it will cut even more sound and be even more comfy.

Plane is still loud even with 30dB or so of attenuation....MUCH more pleasant though.

[///M5 2,833]

7 minutes ago, dem beats said:

They are a better tool for critically listening or being active and listening. The only downside, if there is one, is they can cut down the external noise so much you could be in danger of your around machines or vehicles.

The danger is real, but I wouldn't agree on the critical listening portion.  It is very hard to tailor the sound appropriately in an IEM without a probe mic and a sound booth.  A truly custom tailored solution therefore can obviously eventually be better, but I would expect at 4x the expense to get there.  If you grab a $300 set of cans and a $300 set of IEM's I'd expect the cans to be able to out run the IEM's anyday of the week (assuming of course the signal chain is appropriate leading to them).  That being said, I don't like wearing cans and would rather listen to speakers, but will not carry them on a plane or on my bike

[///M5 2,833]

I haven't really enjoyed non-custom IEM's but do blame my pinna hole.

[dem beats 1,223]

59 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

The danger is real, but I wouldn't agree on the critical listening portion.  It is very hard to tailor the sound appropriately in an IEM without a probe mic and a sound booth.  A truly custom tailored solution therefore can obviously eventually be better, but I would expect at 4x the expense to get there.  If you grab a $300 set of cans and a $300 set of IEM's I'd expect the cans to be able to out run the IEM's anyday of the week (assuming of course the signal chain is appropriate leading to them).  That being said, I don't like wearing cans and would rather listen to speakers, but will not carry them on a plane or on my bike

All I can tell you is that I have listened to cans up to $500.  My AKGs are super awesome in fact.

 

They don't hold a candle to the $60 etomics I had 10 years ago when it comes to detail. The UE tripple was even more detailed and had bass.

 

I also feel speakers are the best possible sound, but IEMs over cans in every category.  At least in the <$600 price bracket.

[Tirefryr 1,742]

So, I need another new phone.  I'm going to switch back to Boost which has been the most reliable for me.  They currently have a deal for the iPhone 5s for $150 and I have a $120 credit with them.  I am so anti-apple that I want to say no, but any other phone I like will be at least $150 more.  Basically, I'm spending $30 for the iPhone.   Any objections to frugality?

[dem beats 1,223]

I hate iPhones.

 

That's all I can offer you as comment.  I also love tmobil. But that's just my luck with them.