Welcome to the IHoP v.2

[dem beats 1,223]

....the deductions come out before taxes though. Sean I am really confused as to what is going on. The deductions for the HSA come out before federal and state taxes are calculated, like a 401k.

Only the HSA deductions are not taxed at all.

Unless your work doesn't off pretax deductions... Then I kind of get it, but that would be weird and silly.....

[dem beats 1,223]

I have shitloads of deductions every year I don't deduct thanks to the fucknuts in washington

Your mtg you can right?

At least a portion.

[dem beats 1,223]

Anyway this is happy stuff.

[dem beats 1,223]

Err.... This is.

[///M5 2,833]

....the deductions come out before taxes though. Sean I am really confused as to what is going on. The deductions for the HSA come out before federal and state taxes are calculated, like a 401k.

Only the HSA deductions are not taxed at all.

Unless your work doesn't off pretax deductions... Then I kind of get it, but that would be weird and silly.....

The deductions I gain would go towards something that would yield nothing that isn't eaten by the AMT. Basically unless it drops me to a level it won't it doesn't change the taxes paid so therefore it needs to do something else positive.

[///M5 2,833]

I have shitloads of deductions every year I don't deduct thanks to the fucknuts in washington

Your mtg you can right?

At least a portion.

Ha, only a little bit of it. Basically they tell me to fuck off. Which is absurd.

Don't get me wrong, I should pay more taxes than most people. A LOT more. That being said I should still be motivated to do the things that stimulate the economy and they won't let me.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

I just deducted a pound or two. AW YEEEAH

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[sandt38 448]

 

I have shitloads of deductions every year I don't deduct thanks to the fucknuts in washington

Your mtg you can right?

At least a portion.

 

Ha, only a little bit of it. Basically they tell me to fuck off. Which is absurd.

Don't get me wrong, I should pay more taxes than most people. A LOT more. That being said I should still be motivated to do the things that stimulate the economy and they won't let me.

 

 

You DO pay more, as do I... and I am not in your tax bracket. Why should we pay, when losers get paid? EIC is fuckin bullshit, as are the entitlements we pay into. Why should we pay 20-40% of our income so someone making $30K can get $7K back in returns, and another $15K in foodstamps and medicaid? Then consider our investments? We take risks that may produce jobs and residences for people to better their lives. These risks obviously can become lost currency on our parts. But are our risks rewarded? No. If we lose, we lose, but if we won our already taxed income becomes taxed again at an exorbitant rate. Why should I work hard and invest if my rewards are taken away and given to some loser with no work ethic and a bunch of kids?

[jonbearsmt 919]

why dont yall just IP this fucking ass fag,

 

 

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you so pussy son! wahhaaaa wheres my likes going?? LMFAO u faggit boy
want them likes huh they make you feel good inside like them pucking
meals you put away, your a dick head dude cause u are what u eat DICK.
and you robbin the cradle with that little piggy you smother nightly,
fat fuck thinks hes hard thinks he some record holder gtfo pussy boy we
much louder than u up north and remeber son, you driving a old man car,
that shit is never musical and never will be musically loud. fuck u and
your class pussy boys are not quiet, fuck u and your 85 chins, you aint
bout that life

[sandt38 448]

why dont yall just IP this fucking ass fag,

 

 

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you so pussy son! wahhaaaa wheres my likes going?? LMFAO u faggit boy

want them likes huh they make you feel good inside like them pucking

meals you put away, your a dick head dude cause u are what u eat DICK.

and you robbin the cradle with that little piggy you smother nightly,

fat fuck thinks hes hard thinks he some record holder gtfo pussy boy we

much louder than u up north and remeber son, you driving a old man car,

that shit is never musical and never will be musically loud. fuck u and

your class pussy boys are not quiet, fuck u and your 85 chins, you aint

bout that life

 

Damn dude... you make some serious enemies don't you? Uneducated enemies, nut enemies none the less...

[jonbearsmt 919]

 this is the 8th or 9th name this fuck tard has made in the last 6 months, only to dislike all my post,  and talk weak ass shit.

[danielle 52]

why dont yall just IP this pucking ass fag,

 

 

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you so pussy son! wahhaaaa wheres my likes going?? LMFAO u faggit boy

want them likes huh they make you feel good inside like them pucking

meals you put away, your a dick head dude cause u are what u eat DICK.

and you robbin the cradle with that little piggy you smother nightly,

fat fuck thinks hes hard thinks he some record holder gtfo pussy boy we

much louder than u up north and remeber son, you driving a old man car,

that shit is never musical and never will be musically loud. fuck u and

your class pussy boys are not quiet, fuck u and your 85 chins, you aint

bout that life

SMH! seriously a idiot and sounds so CHILDISH!

[dem beats 1,223]

....the deductions come out before taxes though. Sean I am really confused as to what is going on. The deductions for the HSA come out before federal and state taxes are calculated, like a 401k.

Only the HSA deductions are not taxed at all.

Unless your work doesn't off pretax deductions... Then I kind of get it, but that would be weird and silly.....

The deductions I gain would go towards something that would yield nothing that isn't eaten by the AMT. Basically unless it drops me to a level it won't it doesn't change the taxes paid so therefore it needs to do something else positive.

But the money you contribute to the HSA would stay tax free forever. As in never be taxed. Then in retirement or a situation when you don't have insurance you could pay for your medical bills or insurance without being taxed on it. It completely takes 5000+ per year out of your taxable costs and when you spend it 15-20 years from now it will remain tax free.

It can also gain interest like a retirement account. So it can basically make all your current and future medical costs tax free. The interest is also tax free.

If you max it out and the 401k you can have roughly 20k untaxed now and 5k of it completely tax avoiding for life. And it gains interest.

Minimum tax be damned, that 5000 allows you to keep the third uncle Sam would steal.

[dem beats 1,223]

First day in the new store. Big meeting with some national guys ing back....

Closed every deal and earned enough that I beat the snot out of budget for the day.

I

Sounds like a good first day!

Got another big deal and then a medium sized deal. I did about 1/9th the months budget in one day.

Edited October 3, 2013 by dem beats

[///M5 2,833]

For instance, if you make $100/yr but pay $42/yr in taxes would you put $5 in an HSA to still pay $42/yr in taxes?

[Tirefryr 1,742]

why dont yall just IP this fucking ass fag,

 

 

 in my inbox today

yo

    

        

            

            

                

                    

                        

                    

                            

                                hahahahaha

                            

Sent Today, 02:45 PM

                            

                        

                    

                        

    

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you so pussy son! wahhaaaa wheres my likes going?? LMFAO u faggit boy

want them likes huh they make you feel good inside like them pucking

meals you put away, your a dick head dude cause u are what u eat DICK.

and you robbin the cradle with that little piggy you smother nightly,

fat fuck thinks hes hard thinks he some record holder gtfo pussy boy we

much louder than u up north and remeber son, you driving a old man car,

that shit is never musical and never will be musically loud. fuck u and

your class pussy boys are not quiet, fuck u and your 85 chins, you aint

bout that life

He has been IP banned multiple times.  The issue is, you unplug your modem, renew your IP address and you're free to register again under a new name.  The IP ban is only handy for bots or idiots who don't know any better.  Unfortunately, for you, this guy has a hard on for you.  Your only recourse is to ignore him and be the bigger man.

[///M5 2,833]

I have shitloads of deductions every year I don't deduct thanks to the fucknuts in washington

Your mtg you can right?

At least a portion.

Ha, only a little bit of it. Basically they tell me to fuck off. Which is absurd.

Don't get me wrong, I should pay more taxes than most people. A LOT more. That being said I should still be motivated to do the things that stimulate the economy and they won't let me.

 

 

You DO pay more, as do I... and I am not in your tax bracket. Why should we pay, when losers get paid? EIC is fuckin bullshit, as are the entitlements we pay into. Why should we pay 20-40% of our income so someone making $30K can get $7K back in returns, and another $15K in foodstamps and medicaid? Then consider our investments? We take risks that may produce jobs and residences for people to better their lives. These risks obviously can become lost currency on our parts. But are our risks rewarded? No. If we lose, we lose, but if we won our already taxed income becomes taxed again at an exorbitant rate. Why should I work hard and invest if my rewards are taken away and given to some loser with no work ethic and a bunch of kids?

Umm, you read my post a bit wrong. Was sort of saying it is a pleasure to pay taxes. WHEN they make sense. Currently they don't make any fucking sense. I should pay more than a lot of people, but what I pay now for how it helps others or myself is absolute horseshit.

I am seriously opposed to big government. Defense & infrastructure aside there almost is no purpose in government.

[dem beats 1,223]

For instance, if you make $100/yr but pay $42/yr in taxes would you put $5 in an HSA to still pay $42/yr in taxes?

Isn't the tax a percentage of your income? What goes into the HSA is not counted as income. It directly removes it from your income prior to taxes being calculated.

Even if it didn't I would still use an HSA as a way to grow money that principle and interest could then later be used to pay for bills without taxation.

Maybe I am missing something and your payroll or income bracket is so high the rules completely change. I helped people with this for 7 years at 1.1M incomes and I am sure others who made more but I didn't know the spouses income....

[dem beats 1,223]

I'm only stuck on this as you are a cheep penny pincher, in the politest Scrouge McDuck way.... And as someone who thought they had this particular avenue of preparing down, I am interested.

Edited October 3, 2013 by dem beats

[jonbearsmt 919]

ah, well one day ill be loud, ill show him

[jonbearsmt 919]

looks like my new subs will be in  my fat little hands  in about 17 hours

[topgun 262]

For instance, if you make $100/yr but pay $42/yr in taxes would you put $5 in an HSA to still pay $42/yr in taxes?

 

 

You would only pay 39.90 to taxes though after the 5$ HSA contribution.  Unless I'm missing something. 

[nem 2,019]

ah, well one day ill be loud, ill show him

Guess I am there with you Jon. He sent me a pm also.

[nem 2,019]

No word on our yet...