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[dem beats 1,223]

Resumes with PhDs / PhDs & masters are often thrown out first for job applications that require a BS or masters. At least in the field of chemistry.

They don't know how to write a resume. And if they feel that it hurts them then simply apply with only the masters listed.

[ssh 924]

I'm just saying that's what I've heard from the hiring departments at Genentech. Aegis Sciences, Proven, ACS, and from those in the field I know. Not a huge sampling size, but enough to take it into consideration.

[dem beats 1,223]

I'm just saying that's what I've heard from the hiring departments at Genentech. Aegis Sciences, Proven, ACS, and from those in the field I know. Not a huge sampling size, but enough to take it into consideration.

Fuckin crazy man. Why?

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

I'm a bit rusty but I can still get a decent vinyl seam.

 

 

[dem beats 1,223]

Garbage!

J/K

I wish I had the tallent or time to learn it.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Resumes with PhDs / PhDs & masters are often thrown out first for job applications that require a BS or masters. At least in the field of chemistry.

They don't know how to write a resume. And if they feel that it hurts them then simply apply with only the masters listed.

 

That's what I do, tailor the resume for the job. "High school diploma or GED"? No sir, never been to college! "Bachelor's degree in a related field"? Yes sir, I've been to college!

[ssh 924]

I'm just saying that's what I've heard from the hiring departments at Genentech. Aegis Sciences, Proven, ACS, and from those in the field I know. Not a huge sampling size, but enough to take it into consideration.

Fuckin crazy man. Why?

They suspect the person won't be happy in the position since they're over qualified, and they'll leave once another job opens up. That's the jist.

[ssh 924]

 

Resumes with PhDs / PhDs & masters are often thrown out first for job applications that require a BS or masters. At least in the field of chemistry.

They don't know how to write a resume. And if they feel that it hurts them then simply apply with only the masters listed.

 

That's what I do, tailor the resume for the job. "High school diploma or GED"? No sir, never been to college! "Bachelor's degree in a related field"? Yes sir, I've been to college!

I'm presuming they would look further into one's credentials if they're left on the list, and would likely find out the other degrees weren't listed, but I could be wrong. :shrugs:

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Because 1,750 HP:

 

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

 

 

Resumes with PhDs / PhDs & masters are often thrown out first for job applications that require a BS or masters. At least in the field of chemistry.

They don't know how to write a resume. And if they feel that it hurts them then simply apply with only the masters listed.

 

That's what I do, tailor the resume for the job. "High school diploma or GED"? No sir, never been to college! "Bachelor's degree in a related field"? Yes sir, I've been to college!

I'm presuming they would look further into one's credentials if they're left on the list, and would likely find out the other degrees weren't listed, but I could be wrong. :shrugs:

 

With most of the HS diploma jobs they review your application, give you an interview, run a criminal background check and/or piss test, and you're hired.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

You're right, though, it is a catch-22. Lie about credentials on the application & have a fighting chance to land the job, or be honest about your credentials & have your application immediately thrown in the trash can.

Edited August 30, 2013 by Penguin4x4

[Tirefryr 1,742]

Because 1,750 HP:

 

Disgusting!

[dem beats 1,223]

Resumes with PhDs / PhDs & masters are often thrown out first for job applications that require a BS or masters. At least in the field of chemistry.

They don't know how to write a resume. And if they feel that it hurts them then simply apply with only the masters listed.

That's what I do, tailor the resume for the job. "High school diploma or GED"? No sir, never been to college! "Bachelor's degree in a related field"? Yes sir, I've been to college!

I'm presuming they would look further into one's credentials if they're left on the list, and would likely find out the other degrees weren't listed, but I could be wrong. :shrugs:

They don't look into it until they are absolutely interested in hiring, and at that point they won't just cast the applicant asside because they will assume the guy wants the job.

However an HR rep who overlooks someone with a higher degree is an idiot. Resume matters more.

[ssh 924]

 

 

 

Resumes with PhDs / PhDs & masters are often thrown out first for job applications that require a BS or masters. At least in the field of chemistry.

They don't know how to write a resume. And if they feel that it hurts them then simply apply with only the masters listed.

That's what I do, tailor the resume for the job. "High school diploma or GED"? No sir, never been to college! "Bachelor's degree in a related field"? Yes sir, I've been to college!

I'm presuming they would look further into one's credentials if they're left on the list, and would likely find out the other degrees weren't listed, but I could be wrong. :shrugs:

They don't look into it until they are absolutely interested in hiring, and at that point they won't just cast the applicant asside because they will assume the guy wants the job.

However an HR rep who overlooks someone with a higher degree is an idiot. Resume matters more.

It still falls back to being overqualified--regardless of resume.

[ssh 924]

This shit is hilarious: http://www.wellaware1.com

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

 

 

 

 

Resumes with PhDs / PhDs & masters are often thrown out first for job applications that require a BS or masters. At least in the field of chemistry.

They don't know how to write a resume. And if they feel that it hurts them then simply apply with only the masters listed.

That's what I do, tailor the resume for the job. "High school diploma or GED"? No sir, never been to college! "Bachelor's degree in a related field"? Yes sir, I've been to college!

I'm presuming they would look further into one's credentials if they're left on the list, and would likely find out the other degrees weren't listed, but I could be wrong. :shrugs:

They don't look into it until they are absolutely interested in hiring, and at that point they won't just cast the applicant asside because they will assume the guy wants the job.

However an HR rep who overlooks someone with a higher degree is an idiot. Resume matters more.

It still falls back to being overqualified--regardless of resume.

 

Being overqualified is just a cop out, considering the US has 115,000 janitors, 83,000 bartenders, 323,000 restaurant servers, and 80,000 heavy-duty truck drivers with bachelor’s degrees.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

No one is "too good" to scrub toilets, sling fries, and the like when they have bills to pay and/or mouths to feed.

Edited August 31, 2013 by Penguin4x4

[dem beats 1,223]

Every human is overqualified for labor, but some people wanna do it.

[Tirefryr 1,742]

Every human is overqualified for labor, but some people wanna do it.

No. I work with laborers all day.  Many of them are barely capable of doing the labor they do let alone anything else.

[jonbearsmt 919]

boom

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

Every human is overqualified for labor, but some people wanna do it.

No. I work with laborers all day. Many of them are barely capable of doing the labor they do let alone anything else.

I agree 1,000 percent with this. Which is why I have a job.

[ssh 924]

Every human is overqualified for labor, but some people wanna do it.

You're missing my point entirely.

There are people with PhDs in chemistry who apply for jobs that require a BS or masters because they can't find anything else and they're willing to do the work, and companies won't hire them because they're "overqualified."

It's not about chemists not willing to work a "lower" job, it's about companies not willing to give them the chance because they believe the chemist will leave with the next opportunity.

That's all my point ever was: PhD in (bio)chemistry reduces some job opportunities.

And I'm talking about jobs in the chemistry field, not outside it.

Edited August 31, 2013 by ssh

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

It's not about chemists not willing to work a "lower" job, it's about companies not willing to give them the chance because they believe the chemist will leave with the next opportunity.

 

This applies to pretty much any company hiring for any position. That's why I withhold my education when applying for McD's, Wally World, etc.

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

Every human is overqualified for labor, but some people wanna do it.

You're missing my point entirely.

There are people with PhDs in chemistry who apply for jobs that require a BS or masters because they can't find anything else and they're willing to do the work, and companies won't hire them because they're "overqualified."

It's not about chemists not willing to work a "lower" job, it's about companies not willing to give them the chance because they believe the chemist will leave with the next opportunity.

That's all my point ever was: PhD in (bio)chemistry reduces some job opportunities.

And I'm talking about jobs in the chemistry field, not outside it.

There is a problem with that way of thinking. If someone spends that amount of time learning they should be working toward owning their own business. Prime example is my boss. He was dirt poor from Central America. Came to the US to a local college here on a school visa. Got a degree in Chemistry and started working for a Molasses testing laboratory. He now owns what was once a Fortune 500 company and is still one of the most prestigious independent commodity lab and surveying company.