Welcome to the IHoP v.2

[dem beats 1,223]

Drove the I 10 into FL. Chillin out in St Petersburg now.

As for why Nikon, tell me why not?

J

Let's have a discussion. In the context of my initial comment, it was due to the fact Canon has a higher market share and unless something major happens more room for upward growth.

Why would someone building a DSLR system chose to go the Nikon route? In almost every price point I find the Nikons to be lacking. There are a few gems, however, in most cases the Nikon product attemps to take from Canon. They also have what I would consider a failed game of oneupmanship when it comes to their design. They keep bumping up the mega pixels, but don't come close to what makes a larger impact on how the photos turn out.

In a way I see it like BMW and Benz. But with one caveat. You are stuck with the major investment(glass)and will be forced to go with that brand for some time. Long term I see more reliability from Canon as I would Bimmer.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[sandt38 448]

Drove the I 10 into FL. Chillin out in St Petersburg now.

As for why Nikon, tell me why not?

J

Let's have a discussion. In the context of my initial comment, it was due to the fact Canon has a higher market share and unless something major happens more room for upward growth.

Why would someone building a DSLR system chose to go the Nikon route? In almost every price point I find the Nikons to be lacking. There are a few gems, however, in most cases the Nikon product attemps to take from Canon. They also have what I would consider a failed game of oneupmanship when it comes to their design. They keep bumping up the mega pixels, but don't come close to what makes a larger impact on how the photos turn out.

In a way I see it like BMW and Benz. But with one caveat. You are stuck with the major investment(glass)and will be forced to go with that brand for some time. Long term I see more reliability from Canon as I would Bimmer.

 

Interesting input. I am personally really good friends with a professional photographer, and have 2 very good friends with wives who are photographers... and I used to fuck a photographer, all of who preferred Nikon to Canon. While my old fuck was several years ago, the other, current, professionals all choose Nikon based on quality and reliability.

[///M5 2,833]

Drove the I 10 into FL. Chillin out in St Petersburg now.

As for why Nikon, tell me why not?

J

Let's have a discussion. In the context of my initial comment, it was due to the fact Canon has a higher market share and unless something major happens more room for upward growth.

Why would someone building a DSLR system chose to go the Nikon route? In almost every price point I find the Nikons to be lacking. There are a few gems, however, in most cases the Nikon product attemps to take from Canon. They also have what I would consider a failed game of oneupmanship when it comes to their design. They keep bumping up the mega pixels, but don't come close to what makes a larger impact on how the photos turn out.

In a way I see it like BMW and Benz. But with one caveat. You are stuck with the major investment(glass)and will be forced to go with that brand for some time. Long term I see more reliability from Canon as I would Bimmer.

Interesting. My perception is similar, but nearly backwards at the same time. The Nikon that is slightly cheaper than the Canon I was looking at was way less capable, but spending a small percentage more <20% yielded a camera that did way more. I figured this was due to the classic leap frog effect of having non-synchronous releases meaning that they periodically trump each other. Figured either would be just fine to use and long term I'd be happy. What I see is lacking is the Sony. If they didn't accept KM glass then they'd be fucking useless IMO. I also hate their whole business model.

As for why I chose Canon even though for $200 more there was a much better Nikon? Very simply as a favor to my parents. They run Canon and this way I can loan them glass when they travel and they don't have to buy it. Figured either would do exactly what I needed. It absolutely killed me at the time though since the Nikon shot video and the Canon didn't. I can't say how much I regret that decision and how much video of my kids I've missed and of course extra money I wasted on a separate video camera.

[dem beats 1,223]

No doubt. I know a few pro's who use Nikon, but all of them also have ALWAYS used Nikon.

It also is a huge difference in studio photography and not in studio. Almost all studio folks will have or want the D800 on the tripod. If they have to leave they will usually grab the 5Diii or the 1Dx if they do journolism.

[dem beats 1,223]

Your example Sean, is one of the 2 times Nikkon beat Canon bad. One is in the studio with the D800, and the other is with the speed of assimilating video.

You would however notice a huge disparity in what happens when you leave a quiet easy setting. I got to live with a Nikon for a bit as my uncle uses it. He just purchased it to have it, doesn't really do much with it, but it's around his neck at some family events. It is frustrating to work in anything but a calm situation. What makes it more interesting is that I used a Nikon before using a Canon.

Until Sony gets much much better glass, I cannot give it the thumbs up. It is also a dog in almost every regard but FPS and the mega pixel number.... and I don't care about having tons of mega pixels.

You are right about the leap frog game, and a lot of the time Canon is a few bucks more. The used market is bigger however, and there is more general support for their products from either Canon updating firmware or the aftermarket comunity upgrading the firmware themselves.

[Godsmack 361]

I will keep a lot of specs out as my knowledge is lacking, but I will say this. In the pit at Concerts I have covered 5/8 are Nikon users. Combat photographers carry Nikon 9/10 times. My grandfather who has been photographing for over 60 years is a Nikon man. So for me, it's a no brainer.

J

[Godsmack 361]

Did the crazy driving happen in florida?

When I went to miami 2yr ago, there is no enforced speeding laws there..

Put it this way. Speed limit 65, we were doing 87 and were being passed by half of everyone on the interstate... including the police, lol.

Florida and Alabama.

j

[sandt38 448]

Your example Sean, is one of the 2 times Nikkon beat Canon bad. One is in the studio with the D800, and the other is with the speed of assimilating video.

You would however notice a huge disparity in what happens when you leave a quiet easy setting. I got to live with a Nikon for a bit as my uncle uses it. He just purchased it to have it, doesn't really do much with it, but it's around his neck at some family events. It is frustrating to work in anything but a calm situation. What makes it more interesting is that I used a Nikon before using a Canon.

Until Sony gets much much better glass, I cannot give it the thumbs up. It is also a dog in almost every regard but FPS and the mega pixel number.... and I don't care about having tons of mega pixels.

You are right about the leap frog game, and a lot of the time Canon is a few bucks more. The used market is bigger however, and there is more general support for their products from either Canon updating firmware or the aftermarket comunity upgrading the firmware themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

Oreally?

[///M5 2,833]

The white glass is a giveaway. <img data-cke-saved-src="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png" src="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png" class="bbc_emoticon" title=":P" />

[///M5 2,833]

Mother fucker. Why does that periodically do that to me.

[///M5 2,833]

The BBCode Mode must not reset itself very well. Haven't checked all permutations, but I usually have a ton of pages open as I fucking think tabs are useless.

[///M5 2,833]

Windows manages lists pretty well in the taskbar, way better than having tons in each program.

[///M5 2,833]

So much faster to move between.

[///M5 2,833]

I also was under the impression that in top dog spot sits a Nikon. Not based on performance, but performance per $

[///M5 2,833]

Bought a Cougar Vortex PWM fan for my dad's pc since it is sitting on my desk humming at me. Impressively quiet but no way in hell it is 17.3dbA.

[///M5 2,833]

Thing rips. Ended up spending $40 more than what Stefan linked, but only due to a reasonable sale at Microcenter.

AMD A8-6600k 3.9GHz FM Richland and an ASUS F2A55-M motherboard. Add 8 gigs of ram and a Samsung SSD and I know longer want to run my own PC. I have not figured out a good way of mirroring the home automation settings either which makes changing a bitch.

[///M5 2,833]

Obviously the extra 4 gigs and SSD on top.

[Godsmack 361]

God I love the sound of a thunderstorm.

J

[///M5 2,833]

Shit, you'd have had a riot here the past few days.

[///M5 2,833]

We can deal with some serious fucking weather, but part of the city lost power for 3.5 days.

[///M5 2,833]

The last estimate I heard was 250,000 homes lost power 

[///M5 2,833]

At our beach we got 6" of rain in less than 24 hours

[///M5 2,833]

80 mph wind gusts

[///M5 2,833]

And enough lightning to read by