SSA Sub(s) having issue on lower notes, poor kay?

[Sencheezy 689]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

[jcarter1885 995]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

Good find, I learned something new today myself about enclosures. Glad you got it worked out.

[swift 501]

Can I add that the Zcon was KILLING the lows in my truck. My truck peaks at 30hz on the meter and the Zcon was a beast even on 1500 watts. Great sub!!

[Sencheezy 689]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

Good find, I learned something new today myself about enclosures. Glad you got it worked out.

Thanks, yes, I have learned how important of a role the enclosure plays. I hope to have a much better results now. Just to clear everything up, I have ALWAYS stand behind SSA and this fault is MY doing and I do apologize for any confusion. The subwoofer is in 100% working condition.

[Sencheezy 689]

Can I add that the Zcon was KILLING the lows in my truck. My truck peaks at 30hz on the meter and the Zcon was a beast even on 1500 watts. Great sub!!

The flex in your truck had me like

[shizzzon 461]

someone who is peaking that low.. flex will always be greatest.

[Sir-Lancelot 216]

Someone needs to wash the sand off his clam.

[Shogen 325]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

Can I add that the Zcon was KILLING the lows in my truck. My truck peaks at 30hz on the meter and the Zcon was a beast even on 1500 watts. Great sub!!

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

Good find, I learned something new today myself about enclosures. Glad you got it worked out.

Thanks, yes, I have learned how important of a role the enclosure plays. I hope to have a much better results now. Just to clear everything up, I have ALWAYS stand behind SSA and this fault is MY doing and I do apologize for any confusion. The subwoofer is in 100% working condition.

Can I add that the Zcon was KILLING the lows in my truck. My truck peaks at 30hz on the meter and the Zcon was a beast even on 1500 watts. Great sub!!

The flex in your truck had me like

glad to hear you have your issue ironed out.. now let's hope there is not damage...

Was the scrapping/scratching noise present at all Sen?

[Julian 641]

Tune to 37 Hz. and lose bottom end output, hmm.

I'm tuned to 38 with 5.x per 18 and I have bottom end.... even when the drivers are still stiff...

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

WONDERFUL news. I can relax now. In a way this topic is nice in the fact that some people can see that many car audio aimed sub woofers have a happy range in which their enclosures should be and the power they should get. Example, Dcon's like smaller boxes on modest power, where as Xcon's like bigger boxes on bigger power. All relative to the sub woofer and the environment it is in.

[Julian 641]

and by bottom end I mean a 150.1 at 30hz 15 minutes after I installed the subs. I went on to do a 154.3 on music peaking around 55hz (which is understandable seeing how the drivers are SO stiff).

Now Senchez, as I recommend for anyone with too large of an enclosure I would start adding larger and large 45's till the scratching stopped. I too had the EXACT same problem with a 8 Ft^3 box. I simply added larger 45's till it stopped.

[Sencheezy 689]

Someone needs to wash the sand off his clam.

I haz no sand on my clam?

[Sencheezy 689]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

Can I add that the Zcon was KILLING the lows in my truck. My truck peaks at 30hz on the meter and the Zcon was a beast even on 1500 watts. Great sub!!

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

Good find, I learned something new today myself about enclosures. Glad you got it worked out.

Thanks, yes, I have learned how important of a role the enclosure plays. I hope to have a much better results now. Just to clear everything up, I have ALWAYS stand behind SSA and this fault is MY doing and I do apologize for any confusion. The subwoofer is in 100% working condition.

Can I add that the Zcon was KILLING the lows in my truck. My truck peaks at 30hz on the meter and the Zcon was a beast even on 1500 watts. Great sub!!

The flex in your truck had me like

glad to hear you have your issue ironed out.. now let's hope there is not damage...

Was the scrapping/scratching noise present at all Sen?

No, the scratching noise completely went away. I played a few songs off my ipod that I am familiar, one paticular song my T.I. that drops extremely low and all you could see was wonderful sub porn

[Sencheezy 689]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

WONDERFUL news. I can relax now. In a way this topic is nice in the fact that some people can see that many car audio aimed sub woofers have a happy range in which their enclosures should be and the power they should get. Example, Dcon's like smaller boxes on modest power, where as Xcon's like bigger boxes on bigger power. All relative to the sub woofer and the environment it is in.

Sorry about that Aaron As stated before, I was simply asking for advice, which I recieved to try and help me. In the end, I learned how much of an role that enclosures have on subwoofers.

[Sencheezy 689]

and by bottom end I mean a 150.1 at 30hz 15 minutes after I installed the subs. I went on to do a 154.3 on music peaking around 55hz (which is understandable seeing how the drivers are SO stiff).

Now Senchez, as I recommend for anyone with too large of an enclosure I would start adding larger and large 45's till the scratching stopped. I too had the EXACT same problem with a 8 Ft^3 box. I simply added larger 45's till it stopped.

Great idea, I think I'm gonna start from scratch, this box is not the prettiest, although it is very strong. I have recently began the process of joining a local car club, one of those really spiffy shiny ones lol (Project Mayem out of Nashville) so, a more appealing enclosure is to be obtained. I will simply need to build a seperate enclosure for comps, as I've noticed that maybe I am asking too much out of an enclosure to play double duty. Although my ports are easily interchangable, other factors that play a vital role in SPL are not. Such as internal volume, box placement, etc. This is something that Shizzzon has taught me so I feel its best to not try and force one enclosure to achieve my goals.

[Tirefryr 1,742]

Someone needs to wash the sand off his clam.

I haz no sand on my clam?

But you have a clam?

[ssh 924]

Tune to 37 Hz. and lose bottom end output, hmm.

I'm tuned to 38 with 5.x per 18 and I have bottom end.... even when the drivers are still stiff...

Key word: lose.

[Sencheezy 689]

Someone needs to wash the sand off his clam.

I haz no sand on my clam?

But you have a clam?

Tune to 37 Hz. and lose bottom end output, hmm.

I'm tuned to 38 with 5.x per 18 and I have bottom end.... even when the drivers are still stiff...

Key word: lose.

:werd:

Edited April 1, 2012 by Aaron Clinton
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[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

too much power too big of box = bottomed out coil = damage to bottom of coil = rub on poll or motor.....................

This seems to be the issue. I believe this hit it right on the nose and I thank you for your input. I would also like to thank everyone who actually gave me suggestions on how to approach this problem. Today, I placed my subwoofer inside another enclosure that belongs to a local member, swift. And all seems fine, the subwoofer showed no signs of stress and sounded great. So the conclusion to this is that, in MY application, I could NOT use a larger enclosure. Swift will begin building my next enclosure soon.

WONDERFUL news. I can relax now. In a way this topic is nice in the fact that some people can see that many car audio aimed sub woofers have a happy range in which their enclosures should be and the power they should get. Example, Dcon's like smaller boxes on modest power, where as Xcon's like bigger boxes on bigger power. All relative to the sub woofer and the environment it is in.

Sorry about that Aaron As stated before, I was simply asking for advice, which I recieved to try and help me. In the end, I learned how much of an role that enclosures have on subwoofers.

No worries, I just always want people to have a positive install with our drivers. Glad you were able to get it worked out and it was something as simple as a box that was too big.

[shizzzon 461]

Great idea, I think I'm gonna start from scratch, ....

NO!!!!!!

Whatever you do.. do NOT start from scratch or we'll be right back where we were!

The scratch is GONE!

For the love of God.. if you get a new enclosure, start from linear excursion!, never from scratch!

[swift 501]

With the new box we will shoot for 4.5cu tuned to 34hz, ....67.5 total port. So 15sqin port per cube. This is all after double baffle and braced strongly. Sub up slot port back.

[16K 159]

With the new box we will shoot for 4.5cu tuned to 34hz, ....67.5 total port. So 15sqin port per cube. This is all after double baffle and braced strongly. Sub up slot port back.

sounds good!! cant wait to see this new box... senchez u better post pics

[Sencheezy 689]

Great idea, I think I'm gonna start from scratch, ....

NO!!!!!!

Whatever you do.. do NOT start from scratch or we'll be right back where we were!

The scratch is GONE!

For the love of God.. if you get a new enclosure, start from linear excursion!, never from scratch!

sean

With the new box we will shoot for 4.5cu tuned to 34hz, ....67.5 total port. So 15sqin port per cube. This is all after double baffle and braced strongly. Sub up slot port back.

Sounds great!

With the new box we will shoot for 4.5cu tuned to 34hz, ....67.5 total port. So 15sqin port per cube. This is all after double baffle and braced strongly. Sub up slot port back.

sounds good!! cant wait to see this new box... senchez u better post pics

I'm on it!

[BigGuy 22]

Great thread. The SSA guys are cool in my book. Despite the consumer's error, SSA never once belittled the guy for his negative comments about the company. Bravo for handling the situation professionally. I also think that it is good that other potential consumers read these post as it will help them formulate their own opinions about the company if they are debating whether or not to make a purchase.

I just got my 2 Dcon 12 d4's and I am axious to power them up. First, I need a box built. They will be pushed by a RF Power 1051s bridged to ~1100 watts rms at 4 ohms. Before I make the same bonehead mistake, anyone care to recommend the correct box with port tuning for me? Of course I realize power is way more than they can handle so I will be very easy on the gains and volume.

Hopefully, Pro-Rabbit will be builing this box for me.

[BigGuy 22]

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