Dcon popping noise.

[ssh 924]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

Wow, I completely overlooked the amp, and it's output.

[ricksi30 923]

Before you put them in the new enclosure, you can run them free-air at low volume, and visually inspect for any issues, and see if the one driver still makes the noise.

Say it does, do you think they would replace it?

Not likely as you have it on over twice its rated power.

[jcs921 0]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

[ssh 924]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

The gain position does not necessarily dictate power output, depending on the input voltage, you could have the gain all the way down with full power.

[jcs921 0]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

The gain position does not necessarily dictate power output, depending on the input voltage, you could have the gain all the way down with full power.

What would you suggest I do then?

[ricksi30 923]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

[NB50 206]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

What did you tune the amp to with the DMM?

[jcs921 0]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

Ahhh I don't know what to do then. I just know that if the amp gain is turned much lower the subs sound like they have almost no power.

[jcs921 0]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

What did you tune the amp to with the DMM?

around 24.49 volts

[ricksi30 923]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

Ahhh I don't know what to do then. I just know that if the amp gain is turned much lower the subs sound like they have almost no power.

Do you have the bass boost knob plugged in?

[jcs921 0]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

Ahhh I don't know what to do then. I just know that if the amp gain is turned much lower the subs sound like they have almost no power.

Do you have the bass boost knob plugged in?

Yes, I have a bass knob.

Tuned the amp with it to max.

[ricksi30 923]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

Ahhh I don't know what to do then. I just know that if the amp gain is turned much lower the subs sound like they have almost no power.

Do you have the bass boost knob plugged in?

Yes, I have a bass knob.

Tuned the amp with it to max.

Unplug and re-tune. Do not use the knob and make sure it is unplugged.

[jcs921 0]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

Ahhh I don't know what to do then. I just know that if the amp gain is turned much lower the subs sound like they have almost no power.

Do you have the bass boost knob plugged in?

Yes, I have a bass knob.

Tuned the amp with it to max.

Unplug and re-tune. Do not use the knob and make sure it is unplugged.

Alright, I will do this when I switch the subs to the ported box. If that doesn't seem to fix it, any other suggestions?

[kh2456 0]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

Ahhh I don't know what to do then. I just know that if the amp gain is turned much lower the subs sound like they have almost no power.

Do you have the bass boost knob plugged in?

Yes, I have a bass knob.

Tuned the amp with it to max.

Unplug and re-tune. Do not use the knob and make sure it is unplugged.

If he tuned the amp with a dmm and the bass knob at full power unplugging it is going to solve nothing...

Edited February 7, 2012 by kh2456

[JohnHinerman 10]

Well, good news is I just ordered a ported box made specifically for the subs. It should be here tuesday. I'm going to wait and check everything when putting the subs in the ported box. Thanks for the suggestions guys, if I have any problems after the ported box I will let you guys know.

They are currently in a sealed enclosure? How much volume is each driver using? Also, if AudioPipes specs are at all accurate (I'm not too familiar with their products) and you are running 750watts RMS to each woofer that is rated at 300watts, and the fact the Dcon has a optimistic 16mm of Xmax, I'm guess one of those coils is bottoming out. Have you tired wiring the speakers series-parallel to end up with an 8ohm load, and the rated 300watts per driver? Running more than twice the power to those woofers in a vented enclosure sounds like you are looking for a blown driver in my opinion.

Btw, the gain at 1/4 really doesn't mean anything as power to the drivers.

On a side note, are the SSA woofers built by Fi? I've heard that somewhere but don't have any solid info.

[ricksi30 923]

Your putting to much power to them and one is failing before the other. You have a 1500 watt rated amp on 600 watt rated subs. If the popping noise goes away with a lower gain setting it was to high to begin with.

But the gain is set 1/4th the way up. It's hardly turned up. If I turn it down anymore, It hardly even hits. We tuned the amp with a DMM also.

1/4 gain does NOT mean 1/4 power. I had the same exact amp and my gain wasn't even 1/8 of the way up to get the full ~1500 watts. The gain is used to match hu voltage output.

Ahhh I don't know what to do then. I just know that if the amp gain is turned much lower the subs sound like they have almost no power.

Do you have the bass boost knob plugged in?

Yes, I have a bass knob.

Tuned the amp with it to max.

Unplug and re-tune. Do not use the knob and make sure it is unplugged.

If he tuned the amp with a dmm and the bass knob at full power unplugging it is going to solve nothing...

Yes it will. The bass boost is at a certain frequency and he did not state what frequency he used to tune the amp. Also it is a "bass boost" knob not a gain knob, and shouldn't be used anyway.

[ricksi30 923]

On a side note, are the SSA woofers built by Fi? I've heard that somewhere but don't have any solid info.

Yes

[Sencheezy 689]

This is how we tuned this setup.

To figure out what voltage you should set the gains to, multiply the RMS power of the amplifiers output by the impedance of the speaker, then find the square root of that number. If you are using an amplifier that has an RMS rating of more than your speaker(s) can handle/rated for, then use the RMS rating of the speaker (instead of the RMS of the amplifier) to determine the voltage to set your amp to. This is also referred to as gaining down.

from: http://www.soundsolu...amplifier-gain/

Edited February 7, 2012 by Sencheezy

[ricksi30 923]

This is how we tuned this the setup.

To figure out what voltage you should set the gains to, multiply the RMS power of the amplifiers output by the impedance of the speaker, then find the square root of that number. If you are using an amplifier that has an RMS rating of more than your speaker(s) can handle/rated for, then use the RMS rating of the speaker (instead of the RMS of the amplifier) to determine the voltage to set your amp to. This is also referred to as gaining down.

from: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/topic/3704-how-to-set-your-amplifier-gain/

I'm telling you man unplug the bass boost knob, and re tune that exact way. Don't use any bass boost either. If you still have problems the driver is probably damaged.

[Sencheezy 689]

This is how we tuned this the setup.

To figure out what voltage you should set the gains to, multiply the RMS power of the amplifiers output by the impedance of the speaker, then find the square root of that number. If you are using an amplifier that has an RMS rating of more than your speaker(s) can handle/rated for, then use the RMS rating of the speaker (instead of the RMS of the amplifier) to determine the voltage to set your amp to. This is also referred to as gaining down.

from: http://www.soundsolu...amplifier-gain/

I'm telling you man unplug the bass boost knob, and re tune that exact way. Don't use any bass boost either. If you still have problems the driver is probably damaged.

I never use bass boost wtf? lol, and I installed the bass knob due to the OPs request. But will follow your suggestion when new box arrives

[ricksi30 923]

If he is using the knob he is using bass boost. I'm not trying to "call you out" just trying to help.

[Sencheezy 689]

If he is using the knob he is using bass boost. I'm not trying to "call you out" just trying to help.

Oh I know, its all cool beans, hell, I tried to avoid to install that damn thing, but he insisted.

[ricksi30 923]

I understand that. They are awesome to have if they are gain controls, but bass boost is just a recipe for disaster. Especially considering the amp is capable of about 1500 watts.

[JohnHinerman 10]

On a side note, are the SSA woofers built by Fi? I've heard that somewhere but don't have any solid info.

Yes

Thanks. They looked like they may be, in fact one model (can't remember) has a motor structure that looks very similar to my SSD's. I haven't looked at any of the details, but I'm sure each "Brand" is built with their own specs?

[kh2456 0]

If he is using the knob he is using bass boost. I'm not trying to "call you out" just trying to help.

Oh my bad I thought it was a bass gain remote knob.