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what woul i gain switching to 15"mag from 16o.v2

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well basically i LOVE my 16o.v2 but it just friied on me and well i want to try somthing new ,my amp fried as well

i will put the mag in a sealed box ,i will have a 9.1 to power it ,900w @2ohm 1200w @1 ohm

the o.v2 got 900w and was in 1.8 cubes and it rocked my world and sounded freakin awesome to me ,so smooth punchy and blended well

basically what will i gain if i switch to a 15" magnum

i listen to EVERYTHING ,i want the loudest SQ possible

thanks

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money matters I feel the MAG is the winner,

money no object I am 100% sure, but I would probably still choose the MAG,

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Well i'll tell ya, i too have a 16ov2 and i also have a mag d2.I had my 16ov2 in a 2.2 cf tuned to 30hz box off a crossfire vr1000d.Right now i have the mag in the 16ov2 box and it gets louder in this box than the 16ov2, now remember the mag is supposed to be in atleast 3.5cf, so it's not even in its proper enclosure.Not a good comparison as far as i'm conserned.Don't get me wrong i too loved my 16ov2 and i also had their old flat cone e15a.The mag seems like it gets louder in the 40-60hz range than both, just can't compare the low end until i get her in my 3.7cf tuned to 27hz box. :D

MAG>16ov2

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i had a 16ov.2 and switched to a 2nd Gen Mag 12 and well, Mag matched it in output and beat it in SQ. I put mine in a 1.6cu ft sealed box and it was one of the best sub, well probably my favorite sub i've ever used. You'll gain a whole lot.

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well the loudest SQ possible was a W7 i heard ,so how does it compare to a W7 then ?

I personally think W7's sound like crap.

They do have a weird sound to them... I suspect "wooshing" through all the cross drilling and maybe some kind of resonance with the cone structure. Sounds "tubby and wooshy" *laughs*

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Mine didn't have a wooshing sound. In fact, it sounded damn fine to me. Not good enough to replace the Mag, but indeed a fine driver. It does help that I paid less then $500 for it as well.

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Mine didn't have a wooshing sound.  In fact, it sounded damn fine to me.  Not good enough to replace the Mag, but indeed a fine driver.  It does help that I paid less then $500 for it as well.

Was it in a trunk? I do know that I'm not the only one to hear the woosh. It's not something you'll hear from the cabin if it's in a trunk, and maybe not ever rear firing in a hatch. But it's something I heard in several show cars with the cone firing at the listener. Of course, maybe it doesn't happen on all W7s or it was an unrelated coincidence.

I do know I didn't much care for the W7, although that is not to say it's not a very nice sub -- it's very well built for one thing, and has a ton of useful throw. Also has a very low THD and whatnot... just a funny sound to it that I can best describe as 'tubby.' Maybe due to the structural poly cone used on the driver. Maybe due to people using the wrong box creating a hump too, I haven't owned one just heard them on several occasions.

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well the loudest SQ possible was a W7 i heard ,so how does it compare to a W7 then ?

I personally think W7's sound like crap.

They do have a weird sound to them... I suspect "wooshing" through all the cross drilling and maybe some kind of resonance with the cone structure. Sounds "tubby and wooshy" *laughs*

I keep telling people its "wooshy" and no one knows what im talking about

The one i heard was in a room with a 10W7 in a JL sealed enclosure

Edited by Eldorado

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Well, mine was in the cab of my truck, and I never heard anything odd. Was it evident at all power levels?

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well i have 2 2nd gen D2 15's in a 10 cft box tuned to 36hz with 2 ma 4000D and i went up against 4 13 w7 with 4 e1200 jl amps 2 H.O. alts 4 optima batts each sub is in a 2cft box ported (not sure of the tuning) we were at a comp and he lost to me pretty suverly in fact i have a trophy from that comp granted i am a SPL freak but i can voch that they are verry loud this set up is in a everyday driver it gets played at them levels about every time i turn it on (Nick and jacob can vouch for that) definatly a great investment i can kill about anything and i havent hurt a thing with them yet money well spent

Have you heard the new drivers yet?

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no but i would like to get some i need to talk to nick about 3 and i really should sell the 2 i have i have talked to jacob and he said they are mean

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I didn't think the old ones could be improved upon until I got my new one and had some playtime. First words out of my mouth were, "OMFG!" Literally.

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yea i really should get some gen 3 but with the old ones still great cond. its hard to let them go an i am not rich enough to get them without selling lod ones (old lady would have a fit ) bad enough that i spent a chunk of change on some new amps a friend of mine has built and still in testing but they go hand in hand with the D2 so its worth it

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so do the mags lose any "firmness" when ported ,one thing i noticed about the o.v2 is when i ported it in 2.2 @30hz it got loud as hell but sounded "loose" ,like it didnt have that PUNCH in the kidney like it did sealed

are the mags this way ?

and will they take 1500w daily? just curious ,i dont need to give it that at all just wondering

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so do the mags lose any "firmness" when ported ,one thing i noticed about the o.v2 is when i ported it in 2.2 @30hz it got loud as hell but sounded "loose" ,like it didnt have that PUNCH in the kidney like it did sealed

What your describing is the reason I prefer seal enclosures myself.

I think you notice a similar reaction with most drivers.

The Hammer

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"looseness" and our drivers don't go hand-in-hand. Looseness or boomy bass in ported enclosures is a factor of one one or two of the following: the driver; the enclosure. When either of the latter aren't working you have the boomy response that is associated with a lot of the big-woofer, ported-enclosure frame of mind. Take one of our 15's and put it in our recommended enclosure and you'll have a hard time finding any room for the words "boomy" or "loose" unless you built the enclosure wrong or have horrible amplfication/processing.

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""looseness" and our drivers don't go hand-in-hand. Looseness or boomy bass in ported enclosures is a factor of one one or two of the following: the driver; the enclosure. When either of the latter aren't working you have the boomy response that is associated with a lot of the big-woofer, ported-enclosure frame of mind. Take one of our 15's and put it in our recommended enclosure and you'll have a hard time finding any room for the words "boomy" or "loose" unless you built the enclosure wrong or have horrible amplfication/processing. "

REALLY ,that makes me smile ...your product sounds amazing and i will be picking one up,do i just e-mail or will calling be better for shipping to VA?

also just in case do you have a return policy? from what you say i wont need it but i just wanna be sure

thanks

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