whatt to dooo?!?

[SMpaintball78 58]

ok. as most of u know i have my 1 12" orion hcca in a nice custom ported box. and i love it. BUT my 1 12 doesnt sound like the good ol way 15's sound. and we all know how 15's sound. low and powerful. latley, i have been eyeballing the sundown audio SA 15's. i would do 2 on 1800 watts and possibly build a wall in my ranger for them. i havent completly decided. what do u all think???? should i stick with my 1 12, or go for the 2 15's???? i have a feeling that my 1 12 will be louder but it dont have the hard hitting that 2 15's would. WHAT TO DOOO

[Ohjay 116]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

[ricksi30 923]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

[SMpaintball78 58]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

[ricksi30 923]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

Ok my man. That's an example of a good install vs a bad one.

Edited July 30, 2011 by ricksi30

[SMpaintball78 58]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

Ok my man.

i want to make the switch, BUT i dread going through the whole process of selling my hcca, buying those, building some boxes and wall.....

[SMpaintball78 58]

or do i save up another $800 for another hcca 12 and box with amp????

[jcarter1885 995]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

So you say you want 2-15"s cause your 12" isnt louder than them but now you say it is louder than 2-15"s. Honestly you need to rebuild that box and give yourself some more port area before buying more equipment. If the HCCA doesnt cut it after the new box, then upgrade your equipment.

[ricksi30 923]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

Ok my man.

i want to make the switch, BUT i dread going through the whole process of selling my hcca, buying those, building some boxes and wall.....

What are you trying to achieve? A properly setup 12 vs 15 sq will not be any different, 15's don't have a "more powerful" sound.

[SMpaintball78 58]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

So you say you want 2-15"s cause your 12" isnt louder than them but now you say it is louder than 2-15"s. Honestly you need to rebuild that box and give yourself some more port area before buying more equipment. If the HCCA doesnt cut it after the new box, then upgrade your equipment.

no i think my 1 12 is louder, but it doesnt have the deep low pounding that 2 15's do.

[SMpaintball78 58]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

Ok my man.

i want to make the switch, BUT i dread going through the whole process of selling my hcca, buying those, building some boxes and wall.....

What are you trying to achieve? A properly setup 12 vs 15 sq will not be any different, 15's don't have a "more powerful" sound.

have u ever been in a truck with subs? its a huge difference between trucks and cars when it comes to subs.... atleast thats what i think

Edited July 30, 2011 by Lantz

[ricksi30 923]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

So you say you want 2-15"s cause your 12" isnt louder than them but now you say it is louder than 2-15"s. Honestly you need to rebuild that box and give yourself some more port area before buying more equipment. If the HCCA doesnt cut it after the new box, then upgrade your equipment.

no i think my 1 12 is louder, but it doesnt have the deep low pounding that 2 15's do.

Educate yourself before upgrading. A lot of your thinking is skewed.

[jcarter1885 995]

I'm pretty positive that 2 SA-15s on the same power and in the proper enclosure will be louder than a single 12" hcca.

+1 unless you royally eff something up.

idk. this hcca is louder than the 2 15" kicker l7's i had befor. its alot louder than u think.... lol

So you say you want 2-15"s cause your 12" isnt louder than them but now you say it is louder than 2-15"s. Honestly you need to rebuild that box and give yourself some more port area before buying more equipment. If the HCCA doesnt cut it after the new box, then upgrade your equipment.

no i think my 1 12 is louder, but it doesnt have the deep low pounding that 2 15's do.

The size of the sub has nothing to do with the sound, the box does.

[jcarter1885 995]

Educate yourself before upgrading. A lot of your thinking is skewed.

x2, some great advice

[SMpaintball78 58]

Educate yourself before upgrading. A lot of your thinking is skewed.

x2, some great advice

im just using what i know from my previous set-ups and experience with 12's and 15's. for all my past experiences, this 1 12 is louder than all my 15" set-ups. thats what im trying to say lol.

[ricksi30 923]

Educate yourself before upgrading. A lot of your thinking is skewed.

x2, some great advice

im just using what i know from my previous set-ups and experience with 12's and 15's. for all my past experiences, this 1 12 is louder than all my 15" set-ups. thats what im trying to say lol.

Bad installs.

[SMpaintball78 58]

Educate yourself before upgrading. A lot of your thinking is skewed.

x2, some great advice

im just using what i know from my previous set-ups and experience with 12's and 15's. for all my past experiences, this 1 12 is louder than all my 15" set-ups. thats what im trying to say lol.

Bad installs.

the 2 L7 15's i had were in there recommended ported enclosure with about 900 watts going to each.....

[ricksi30 923]

Educate yourself before upgrading. A lot of your thinking is skewed.

x2, some great advice

im just using what i know from my previous set-ups and experience with 12's and 15's. for all my past experiences, this 1 12 is louder than all my 15" set-ups. thats what im trying to say lol.

Bad installs.

the 2 L7 15's i had were in there recommended ported enclosure with about 900 watts going to each.....

Well I guess you know more than I do. Looking at your avatar that Hcca is begging for more port area.

Edited July 30, 2011 by ricksi30

[jcarter1885 995]

So you ask for advice and when it is provided you argue with it. Well good luck in trying to find out what your gonna do.

[SMpaintball78 58]

So you ask for advice and when it is provided you argue with it. Well good luck in trying to find out what your gonna do.

im not arguing..... im telling u from my point of view i guess u could say. from my past experiences... thats all

[ricksi30 923]

So you ask for advice and when it is provided you argue with it. Well good luck in trying to find out what your gonna do.

im not arguing..... im telling u from my point of view i guess u could say. from my past experiences... thats all

Well I'm telling you (coming from someone who has done 30+ installs this year) that you are wrong. If you want some help ask a more clear question, then accept the advice that you are given.

[jcarter1885 995]

So you ask for advice and when it is provided you argue with it. Well good luck in trying to find out what your gonna do.

im not arguing..... im telling u from my point of view i guess u could say. from my past experiences... thats all

So do you think your the only one with install experience, instead of listening with your ears you rather listen with your mouth. Its cool though, you already know more than me apparently. Just cause you have experience doesnt mean its a good experience or that you learned what you were supposed to.

[Luke.H 33]

So you're saying your single 12 is louder than two 15's on the same power? Either your HCCA defies the laws of physics or something was off on the install. I'm not entirely sure what you're goals are. If you want more output or better low end extension first try to build a new box. If that doesn't work try new equipment.

[Ohjay 116]

3x the cone area, less to pressurize, it's a no brainer.

[SMpaintball78 58]

So you're saying your single 12 is louder than two 15's on the same power? Either your HCCA defies the laws of physics or something was off on the install. I'm not entirely sure what you're goals are. If you want more output or better low end extension first try to build a new box. If that doesn't work try new equipment.

i just paid $175 for this one :/ it sounds good and loud. but i know 2 15's will have a better low end and the initial hit of a beat will be harder. thats what im looking for.