subwoofer recomandtions

[keddy_net 0]

I have 400$ (budget for buy a subwoofer)

ive been looking/shopping for a nice big ""SQL"" subwoofer who can sing music at low frecv. I`m interested to hit low (28-30Hz). I listen rap - dub step music, my car is 4 door hatchback. HU is alpine 9831, amplifier will be HFi2000D. I have a second batteries and 0awg cable.

Someone recommended me:

TC Sounds LMS-R 15

SSA XCON 15 or 18

FI BTL

I have not heard any version.

I`m from europe and i want to buy it from USA. I also want your recommendations to buy best solution.

Thanks.

[chrishova 2]

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Edited May 31, 2011 by grandprixpunch

[keddy_net 0]

so we have:

ssa Xcon

TC Sounds LMS-R 15

FI BTL

aa havoc 15

who is a daily SQ-L driver? Who plays the best music at 30Hz ?

(Fi BTL is not free shiping in us, and full option with her price is over 500$ )

I have not heard any version so please help. Thanks.

Edited May 31, 2011 by keddy

[Duran 387]

Ascendent Audio Mayhem, or the XCON.

TC Sounds has moved production to China, and have done downhill quality wise. The BTL(depending on the generation) will be better suited in an SPL oriented installation, they generally peak higher.

[edouble101 314]

Low frequency extension has a large part to do with your enclosure. Stay away from spl based subwoofers because they generally are built to peak high.

[keddy_net 0]

I know how to calculate the box will be made ​​by me.

I'm talking about Fi btl n2.

Ascendent Audio Mayhem i found it only bladeice.com and there is 455£

I will go on xcone 15. I think it's good idea. 1750w, low Fs, 31mm x max.

what's your opinion ?

thanks for answers.

Edited May 31, 2011 by keddy

[Sencheezy 689]

I know how to calculate the box will be made ​​by me.

Ascendent Audio Mayhem i found it only bladeice.com and there is 455£

I will go on xcone 15. I think it's good idea. 1750w, low Fs, 31mm x max.

what's your opinion ?

thanks for answers.

I think that will be a very wise decision.

[keddy_net 0]

but what do you think about tc sounds lms-r 15 ?

even if made in china, it was is designed in us, and product for us, just like 80% of everyone else.

what is your impression about lms-r 15' vs xcon 15'

sorry, but i asc because i never heard any version and i want a good decision.

thanks for answers.

Edited May 31, 2011 by keddy

[Luke.H 33]

Like Duran said TC has gone downhill. I would take his advice. Mayhem or Xcon. Both great subs and amazing companies.

[95Honda 486]

Personally, I think the worst part of Chinese equipment is that you are sending your money to China.

I have used some of the newer TC stuff from PartsExpress. Build quality and QC seem good. Same with Tang-band, Usher, etc....

I don't think the Chinese will be on par with the higher end US manufacting though.

You need to find someone in the US military close that will be willing to order for you. Will cost you about 1/2.

[keddy_net 0]

SSA xcon 15':

X max: 31 mm, 1750w RMS, Fs: 31.3 Hz, SPL: 89.6 dB

Tc sounds LMS-R 15':

X max: 29.4 mm, 1000w RMS, Fs: 23.6 Hz, SPL: 86.9 dB

I like both, but i have to decide. TC was 1000w rms, fs 23,6hz and SSA is 1750w rms, fs 31.3Hz.

Why Tc sound, why SSA ? who is the best for ""SQL"". please help

thanks for answers.

[pmureika 31]

I have only heard the Xcons, but you cant believe how great these sound for the money

[Notorious97200 339]

From Europe ? save some more money. $400 will not be enough with the shipping costs.

The Xcon will fit your needs, but a btl too, even a Fi bl will.

The box(tuning and net volume) is the most important part to make the sub hits the lowest notes.

Not much recommendations for TC sounds!! I don't know nothing about them !

[keddy_net 0]

with shiping is 570

4cf net for wofer, and i calculate port area for 29-30hz, will be a flared port, material will be mdf with reinforced inside.

Edited June 2, 2011 by keddy

[Notorious97200 339]

The Xcons are fantastic !!! Can't compare to a 1000 w rms driver.

I had one 15" and loved it.

I run a btl 12" now because of restricted space, but it sounds good and I can give him much more power !

[keddy_net 0]

thanks for replies

TC is out of list.

About FI BL (full) daily vs SSA XCON, what do you think ?

Edited June 2, 2011 by keddy

[Ohjay 116]

I think they are 2 totally different drivers meant for different applications

[keddy_net 0]

thanks guys

I decided

SSA xcone 15' will buy next month and I will make a new thread with approveed enclosure, and of course my opinion about the choice.

for this sub what amplifier its ok: hifonics Hfi2500d or Hfi2000d ?

by the way I'm from Romania. ( facebook.com/mihai.keddy )

Thanks again for help.

Edited June 2, 2011 by keddy

[steveo50 3]

You could look at incriminator death row its a ""SQL"" driver. I have one and love it. Its only like 320 I think but idk how much shipping would be.

[pmureika 31]

What ohms are you going to run it at?

[keddy_net 0]

i want to buy dual 2 ohm subwoofer and use it at 1 ohm.

Edited June 4, 2011 by keddy

[pmureika 31]

i want to buy dual 2 ohm subwoofer and use it at 1 ohm.

I would run the sub at 2ohms not as hard on the amp or speaker unless setup properly.If you do go 1ohm I wouldnt run over the 1750rms power rating of the sub.

[keddy_net 0]

i decide to buy ssa xcon with 2x2ohm(connect at 1ohm), and hifonics Brutus BRZ2100.1D or BRZ2400.1D. I thought that more power (2100-2400) means clean signal at 1000-1500 for daily. not true? Or is to much power ?

It was run with two stock batteries 2x66Ah, stock alternator 85Ah, 0awg cable, and i can connect anytime a second HO, but still 85ah or something like that. I intend in the future a deep cycle battery

Amplifier is a good choice? or something with less power ?

thanks

[pmureika 31]

You will have less distortion running 1500rms at 2ohms and the amp will run cooler. Stay away from 1ohm unless you are going to run a sundown,audioque,crescendo or incriminator audio amps. 1ohm just makes them run to hot.

[kirill007 52]

The LMS will play lower then the xcon in perfect conditions, but it will handle less power.