Is a watt, a watt, no matter what?

[///M5 2,833]

Pretty simple answer actually.

If amplifiers are tested appropriately (none really are) and they test at the same power at the same frequency they will indeed have the same output. Sonic differences can happen, but Impious took care of those and none have any differences that can't be reverted back with some processing.

As for differences in quality, that can surely exist. Quality components should be chosen (not for sound coloration, but for longevity), and of course quality construction is necessary as well. It is very often that cheaper brands cut corners on some of the most expensive componentry and the amplifier suffers because of it.

So is a watt a watt? Yes, if you can imply true watt = true watt, but that doesn't mean that all amplifiers are equal.

[slim2fattycake 85]

Yes, I understand that there is just wayy too many opinions on the subject, which is why I tried to make it as detailed as I can to get the answer I am looking for. Which it seems my assumption is right, if a controlled setup stays the same, and the only variable that changes is the amplifiers, then why would there be different outcomes?

But still, why would a company charge so much more than others. If we were to use the analogy that a apple is a apple. The price would change on several factors, to name a few, maybe where the apple is from, how large is the apple, where is it shipping too, who is delivering the apple, etc... I'm not sure if I am making my question clear enough I guess I just don't see why would two separate companies charge two totally different prices, if the cheaper company is offering the exact same thing? Maybe customer service, maybe the name. But that is the obvious, so I just answered my own question... ughhhh, lol.

Not many companies offer the same thing as another company.

If you talking about 3000 watts vs 3000watts, that's different, than the exact same product.

Take Sundown vs Audiopipe. Sundown's 1500d is 500dollars at MAP iirc. The Audiopipe is 200 dollars.

One the Sundown is a dealer only based company, so therefore you have Jake selling to the dealers, then the dealer has to make a profit.

Vs the Audiopipe, the actually person your buying it from doesn't make hardly anything off the amp. And they can do that because they don't have near the costs that a actually retail shop does.

Two, the Sundown comes with a 2 year warranty, and is transferable if/when you sell it.

You would get lucky to get a warranty a few months down the road with the Audiopipe.

You get the point. There are more reasons but no need to go into great detail. Also, I just named brands and pricing, those could vary, just had to state something for a example.

Have you actually owned an audiopipe amp? Have you tried to get warranty off it? If not, please don't talk. I have and it was easy. Send the broken one in and get a new one.

M5, where's the hottie in your sig? I miss getting a reaction from girls in class next to me when I go over your posts.

[///M5 2,833]

Have you actually owned an audiopipe amp? Have you tried to get warranty off it? If not, please don't talk. I have and it was easy. Send the broken one in and get a new one.

M5, where's the hottie in your sig? I miss getting a reaction from girls in class next to me when I go over your posts.

Broken to new sounds good.

Hottie is "too big" for the new software. When I edited my signature to include a disclaimer so nooblets wouldn't get the sand rubbed the wrong way in their labia I had to remove the pic

[slim2fattycake 85]

fuck the nooblets, they don't want to stick around to lurk and learn then they can leave. hottie stays. I need to know if she will do anything for an SSA member.

[///M5 2,833]

fuck the nooblets, they don't want to stick around to lurk and learn then they can leave. hottie stays. I need to know if she will do anything for an SSA member.

I can't put her back though

[Shogen 325]

Put the girl back....

Also you hit it spot on in terms of what I meant by quality M5.... Thank you for elaborating..

[///M5 2,833]

Put the girl back....

Also you hit it spot on in terms of what I meant by quality M5.... Thank you for elaborating..

I'd love to but seriously can't. Image is too big and shrunk it looks like shit.

[The enD 467]

What was the link to the girl

[Shogen 325]

What was the link to the girl

that's just creepy....

[Sencheezy 689]

Thanks for the insight guys! thats exactly what I was looking for. So I guess the final answer is, yes, a watt is A watt, no matter what. In its most simpliest form, that is the direct answer, with no butts or ands. Now I feel I have the power to pass my new found knowledge with others if ever need be

I feel smarter already

[Shogen 325]

lol.... don't spread anything sencheezy... I have a feeling that could be dangerous...

[Shogen 325]

What was the link to the girl

yes yes yes.... M5 you lose rights to the girl... she is the end's now....

[slim2fattycake 85]

What was the link to the girl

///m5?

[mdexxxiv 1]

Volts X Amperes = Watts. By the way, there is no standard definition for a watt in audio. Simplest way from an EE point of view:

In terms of classical mechanics, one watt is the rate at which work is done when an object's velocity is held constant at one meter per second against constant opposing force of one newton. In terms of electromagnetism, one watt is the rate at which work is done when one ampere (A) of current flows through an electrical potential difference of one volt (V).

Edited March 23, 2011 by mdexxxiv

[Sencheezy 689]

lol.... don't spread anything sencheezy... I have a feeling that could be dangerous...

lmfao hahaha,

Ok okay.... I promise

[Sencheezy 689]

Volts X Amperes = Watts. Simplest way from an EE point of view.

Gothcha, it just made me wonder what factors besides the obivous, would effect pricing, like, internally of the amp, what would change the price if V x A = W

It seems that majority of it is the parts that it takes to create that equation is what greatly affects the pricing.

[slim2fattycake 85]

quality parts that actually do give you the rated wattage.

[Sencheezy 689]

quality parts that actually do give you the rated wattage.

Well I wouldn't say that much, I may be getting this wrong, but from what others have posted so far, crappy parts can get you rated wattage as well. But its the longevity, quality, etc that makes the difference.

[ford302redneck 15]

quality parts that actually do give you the rated wattage.

Well I wouldn't say that much, I may be getting this wrong, but from what others have posted so far, crappy parts can get you rated wattage as well. But its the longevity, quality, etc that makes the difference.

Well I wouldn't say crappy parts, but not over built parts.

Most amps do fine within rated RMS, that's what the parts are built around.

People run into problem trying to get more out there amp than designed. Example, low impedance, higher voltage, and ect.

[slim2fattycake 85]

clipped wattage isn't clean wattage to me.

[///M5 2,833]

What was the link to the girl

How the hell can you do that and not me?