I NEED MORE POWER.....ASAP!

[SMpaintball78 58]

ok, so like most people with systems, my lights dim ALOT, and my rpm's drop. my system is drawing around 150amps fropm my stock 95amp alt. i have a 1995 ext. cab ford ranger. i am installing a 2nd battery (deep cycle) and doing the "big 3" but i doubt itll be enough. here is a list of my system to give u an idea of the problem.....

2 12" mtx 9500's

1 kicker zx1500.1

1 kicker zx350.4

2 mtx 6x9's

o & HID headlight kit (idk if it draws more power than stock so ill just add it in case).

i want either dual stock alt. or 1 big one. the problem with buying 1 new big one, is that im afraid if i buy off ebay, or any other site for a fact, that the alternator itself doesnt put out what the manufacture says it will. if u or someone u know has a aftermarket alternator and does what its made to do (put out more power than stock and last long periods without replacing) please let me know ASAP!

Thanks

[sefugi 166]

What size power wire do you have going to your amps? I would suggest doing the "BIG 3" and recheck were you are at. Have you actully checked a voltage reading at the amp?

I would suggest not getting an alt. from e-bay unless you know the seller and the products they are selling. Money spent for some junk could be put with a little more money for an alt that will actually produce the output that it is rated and not fail once put into service.

[SMpaintball78 58]

What size power wire do you have going to your amps? I would suggest doing the "BIG 3" and recheck were you are at. Have you actully checked a voltage reading at the amp?

I would suggest not getting an alt. from e-bay unless you know the seller and the products they are selling. Money spent for some junk could be put with a little more money for an alt that will actually produce the output that it is rated and not fail once put into service.

i have 4 gauge wireing throughout the truck (power and ground) the voltage at my battery the last time i checked was about 12.7ampers. i think that the big 3 and a 2nd battery should help, but its not going to solve my problem. also i didnt mention, i am only going to have the truck MAYBE for another yr at the most so im second guessing on the whole alternator thing. what do u all thing????

[bassahaulic 155]

I think you need to do a little reading up on how this all works. Your ideas are slightly skewed.

[SMpaintball78 58]

I think you need to do a little reading up on how this all works. Your ideas are slightly skewed.

ok? and whats so "skewed"?

[SMpaintball78 58]

well, i got the battery installed and WOW. it made a HUGE difference. befor, i could only turn it up 1/4 the way up and my volt meter on the dash would go crazy. now, i can turn it up 1/2 to 3/4 befor the volt meter even budges. the walmart boat batteries are the way to go. dont spend 150 on 1 optima. u can buy 2 of the walmart batteries for the price of one of those. THEY REALLY WORK. i can play about 1 and a half song befor i have to turn it down and let it charge. give it 3 mins to charge and its good to go lol. i have a kicker zx1500.1 (150amp fuse) with 2 12" mtx 9500's and id say i can draw about a TRUE 1200 watts befor lights dim or anything and thats on a stock 95amp alt.

Edited February 14, 2011 by Lantz

[ssh 924]

well, i got the battery installed and WOW. it made a HUGE difference. befor, i could only turn it up 1/4 the way up and my volt meter on the dash would go crazy. now, i can turn it up 1/2 to 3/4 befor the volt meter even budges. the walmart boat batteries are the way to go. dont spend 150 on 1 optima. u can buy 2 of the walmart batteries for the price of one of those. THEY REALLY WORK. i can play about 1 and a half song befor i have to turn it down and let it charge. give it 3 mins to charge and its good to go lol. i have a kicker zx1500.1 (150amp fuse) with 2 12" mtx 9500's and id say i can draw about a TRUE 1200 watts befor lights dim or anything and thats on a stock 95amp alt.

You did refer to volts as amps, there not the same lol.

These walmart batteries, got a link to the specs? Sealed agm batteries are fine inside the cabin, but i have a feeling these cheap batteries aren't sealed, therefore they leak gas...

[SMpaintball78 58]

well, i got the battery installed and WOW. it made a HUGE difference. befor, i could only turn it up 1/4 the way up and my volt meter on the dash would go crazy. now, i can turn it up 1/2 to 3/4 befor the volt meter even budges. the walmart boat batteries are the way to go. dont spend 150 on 1 optima. u can buy 2 of the walmart batteries for the price of one of those. THEY REALLY WORK. i can play about 1 and a half song befor i have to turn it down and let it charge. give it 3 mins to charge and its good to go lol. i have a kicker zx1500.1 (150amp fuse) with 2 12" mtx 9500's and id say i can draw about a TRUE 1200 watts befor lights dim or anything and thats on a stock 95amp alt.

You did refer to volts as amps, there not the same lol.

These walmart batteries, got a link to the specs? Sealed agm batteries are fine inside the cabin, but i have a feeling these cheap batteries aren't sealed, therefore they leak gas...

ya idk about all that. when i picked up the 9500's, the guy had 4 of the walmart batteries in his trunk and said it was all good. fortunatly, he gave me one lol. the batteries are just the regular boat batteries from walmart. im sure u can find them on walmarts website or even at walmart if ur ever there

[Godsmack 361]

well, i got the battery installed and WOW. it made a HUGE difference. befor, i could only turn it up 1/4 the way up and my volt meter on the dash would go crazy. now, i can turn it up 1/2 to 3/4 befor the volt meter even budges. the walmart boat batteries are the way to go. dont spend 150 on 1 optima. u can buy 2 of the walmart batteries for the price of one of those. THEY REALLY WORK. i can play about 1 and a half song befor i have to turn it down and let it charge. give it 3 mins to charge and its good to go lol. i have a kicker zx1500.1 (150amp fuse) with 2 12" mtx 9500's and id say i can draw about a TRUE 1200 watts befor lights dim or anything and thats on a stock 95amp alt.

You did refer to volts as amps, there not the same lol.

These walmart batteries, got a link to the specs? Sealed agm batteries are fine inside the cabin, but i have a feeling these cheap batteries aren't sealed, therefore they leak gas...

ya idk about all that. when i picked up the 9500's, the guy had 4 of the walmart batteries in his trunk and said it was all good. fortunatly, he gave me one lol. the batteries are just the regular boat batteries from walmart. im sure u can find them on walmarts website or even at walmart if ur ever there

What he is trying to tell you is this might be a health risk. Research it and find out.

And oh yea, walmart has more than one boat battery so you being specific helps us help you.

J

[ssh 924]

well, i got the battery installed and WOW. it made a HUGE difference. befor, i could only turn it up 1/4 the way up and my volt meter on the dash would go crazy. now, i can turn it up 1/2 to 3/4 befor the volt meter even budges. the walmart boat batteries are the way to go. dont spend 150 on 1 optima. u can buy 2 of the walmart batteries for the price of one of those. THEY REALLY WORK. i can play about 1 and a half song befor i have to turn it down and let it charge. give it 3 mins to charge and its good to go lol. i have a kicker zx1500.1 (150amp fuse) with 2 12" mtx 9500's and id say i can draw about a TRUE 1200 watts befor lights dim or anything and thats on a stock 95amp alt.

You did refer to volts as amps, there not the same lol.

These walmart batteries, got a link to the specs? Sealed agm batteries are fine inside the cabin, but i have a feeling these cheap batteries aren't sealed, therefore they leak gas...

ya idk about all that. when i picked up the 9500's, the guy had 4 of the walmart batteries in his trunk and said it was all good. fortunatly, he gave me one lol. the batteries are just the regular boat batteries from walmart. im sure u can find them on walmarts website or even at walmart if ur ever there

I only asked for the safety of you, I'm not going to search the walmart site trying to find what batteries you bought and whether or not their safe to be in the cabin.

Just because he says there fine doesn't mean they are. What if you sold them next week to someone and said yeah there fine. They would believe you, yet you clearly don't know.

Just my thoughts on the matter, Good luck.

[SMpaintball78 58]

i guess??? i mean they work and nothing "leaking" so were good to go. when u say "leak" what do u mean exactally? like battery acid or what?

o and one more thing, what if i put the batteries in the bed of my truck??? would it be to far from battery uip front to the battery in the bed, and back to my amp?

Edited February 14, 2011 by Lantz

[edouble101 314]

Lantz I think that your knowledge base isn't deep enough yet to make informed decisions on vehicle electrical upgrades. Even asking a question like you did digs up even more issues you setup has.

I highly recommend that you spend a considerable amount of time researching and reading about setups that have worked well for other people. Your question is too broad IMO to be covered thoroughly.

[Ohjay 116]

They leak GASES, you will not see what the battery is releasing. You probably wouldn't smell it either. If that battery tips over, you could have problems. I would definitely put them in the bed if I were you. To be honest though, I wouldn't run them period. My brother in law also thinks the way you do and runs 2-3 regular batteries in his setup, along with 2 different brand woofers in the same common chamber enclosure.

[SMpaintball78 58]

Lantz I think that your knowledge base isn't deep enough yet to make informed decisions on vehicle electrical upgrades. Even asking a question like you did digs up even more issues you setup has.

I highly recommend that you spend a considerable amount of time researching and reading about setups that have worked well for other people. Your question is too broad IMO to be covered thoroughly.

naa im good. i mean iv been in car audio for about 2 years now. im just wondering if i put my extra batteries in my bed, if it will still perform as well as it does now. my box i built is so wide, that i had to take out on of my side flipdown seats. i had a little extra room so i put the battery in there. every once in awhile, itl kinda move. not like flip over but move from side to side maybe 2 inches at the most. and thats if i take a hard turn.

[SMpaintball78 58]

They leak GASES, you will not see what the battery is releasing. You probably wouldn't smell it either. If that battery tips over, you could have problems. I would definitely put them in the bed if I were you. To be honest though, I wouldn't run them period. My brother in law also thinks the way you do and runs 2-3 regular batteries in his setup, along with 2 different brand woofers in the same common chamber enclosure.

what would u do in my situation? i dont have the money for a HO alt. i only have the money for maybe another battery but thats all. i have a "65 mustang and summer is coming up and i have alot of mantinance to do to get it ready. it needs brakes and new upper and lower ball joints. not that that has anything to do with systems but i wanted to fill u in on my situation.

[ssh 924]

They leak GASES, you will not see what the battery is releasing. You probably wouldn't smell it either. If that battery tips over, you could have problems. I would definitely put them in the bed if I were you. To be honest though, I wouldn't run them period. My brother in law also thinks the way you do and runs 2-3 regular batteries in his setup, along with 2 different brand woofers in the same common chamber enclosure.

what would u do in my situation? i dont have the money for a HO alt. i only have the money for maybe another battery but thats all. i have a "65 mustang and summer is coming up and i have alot of mantinance to do to get it ready. it needs brakes and new upper and lower ball joints. not that that has anything to do with systems but i wanted to fill u in on my situation.

save up and get some sealed agm batteries, xspower batts are great but pricey, may wanna also check out some deka 9a31s (I think that model number is right)

[Ohjay 116]

Does your Ranger use a 3G alt?

[Deto1992 5]

They leak GASES, you will not see what the battery is releasing. You probably wouldn't smell it either. If that battery tips over, you could have problems. I would definitely put them in the bed if I were you. To be honest though, I wouldn't run them period. My brother in law also thinks the way you do and runs 2-3 regular batteries in his setup, along with 2 different brand woofers in the same common chamber enclosure.

what would u do in my situation? i dont have the money for a HO alt. i only have the money for maybe another battery but thats all. i have a "65 mustang and summer is coming up and i have alot of mantinance to do to get it ready. it needs brakes and new upper and lower ball joints. not that that has anything to do with systems but i wanted to fill u in on my situation.

save up and get some sealed agm batteries, xspower batts are great but pricey, may wanna also check out some deka 9a31s (I think that model number is right)

Yupp the deka 9a31 is in the intimidator line made by deka. Ive heard nothing but good reviews about these deka's, you should definitely check them out!

[Tirefryr 1,742]

No offense man, but you have no clue what you are doing. You don't have the proper wiring to support your needed power, let alone anything else. ALL batteries produce gases when charging, but only a sealed battery will retain this gas. Having the battery in the cabin without it being in a properly vented enclosure is just asking for trouble, especially if you smoke. I could go on, but I don't feel like wasting my time picking this apart since you've made it apparent that you are a know-it-all after the fact.

[SMpaintball78 58]

Does your Ranger use a 3G alt?

i am not sure. i was snooping around yesterday, and there is a 8 gauge wire feeding my battery so im guessing doing the big 3 would help by increasing the current flow

[SMpaintball78 58]

They leak GASES, you will not see what the battery is releasing. You probably wouldn't smell it either. If that battery tips over, you could have problems. I would definitely put them in the bed if I were you. To be honest though, I wouldn't run them period. My brother in law also thinks the way you do and runs 2-3 regular batteries in his setup, along with 2 different brand woofers in the same common chamber enclosure.

what would u do in my situation? i dont have the money for a HO alt. i only have the money for maybe another battery but thats all. i have a "65 mustang and summer is coming up and i have alot of mantinance to do to get it ready. it needs brakes and new upper and lower ball joints. not that that has anything to do with systems but i wanted to fill u in on my situation.

save up and get some sealed agm batteries, xspower batts are great but pricey, may wanna also check out some deka 9a31s (I think that model number is right)

Yupp the deka 9a31 is in the intimidator line made by deka. Ive heard nothing but good reviews about these deka's, you should definitely check them out!

alright ill do that!

Thanks bro

[SMpaintball78 58]

No offense man, but you have no clue what you are doing. You don't have the proper wiring to support your needed power, let alone anything else. ALL batteries produce gases when charging, but only a sealed battery will retain this gas. Having the battery in the cabin without it being in a properly vented enclosure is just asking for trouble, especially if you smoke. I could go on, but I don't feel like wasting my time picking this apart since you've made it apparent that you are a know-it-all after the fact.

hmm, so since i "dont have a clue what im doing" i should probably just sell all my stuff. there is alot to know about car audio. QUITE BEING A A*S**LE. im trying to learn. all i asked was for some opinions on what i should do. i didnt ask for people to tell me i dont know what im doing. if i didnt know what i was doing, i wouldnt try to add more batteries and bigger wires, id just let it blow my alt.please do not come back to my thread. it would be appreciated.

Edited February 16, 2011 by Lantz