single xcon 18 vs 2 icon 12s

[chargeron4s 1]

I have audioque 2200d and i was wondering what subwoofer setup would get louder? The sub i have right now is a xcon 18 the box is a 5 cubic feet,the other woofers i have in mind are 2 new 12inch icon`s both setups will be ran off the same amp..It is a trunk setup.Thanks for any info..

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Do you have space for a larger enclosure?

[hondakilla98 29]

Are you running ported or sealed now? Will the icons be ported or sealed? I'm guessing this is a sealed 18 vs 2-12's ported question?

Edited January 17, 2011 by hondakilla98

[chargeron4s 1]

The box i have now is ported that was the biggest that could be built for my trunk.And the icons will be ported.thanks

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

The box i have now is ported that was the biggest that could be built for my trunk.And the icons will be ported.thanks

Ouch, under 6 and ported? You must be losing some bottom end and efficiency. The new Icon's are a little bit out yet, just a heads up.

[S.DeYoung 968]

Two 12s in an optimal box is better than one 18 in a small box

[chargeron4s 1]

Two 12s in an optimal box is better than one 18 in a small box

thank you

[S.DeYoung 968]

Two 12s in an optimal box is better than one 18 in a small box

thank you

Like Aaron said icons are not back in production yet... are you going to wait? or get something else?

[Shogen 325]

You sure you don't wanna put 3 18" Xcons in your trunk instead??

edit: LOL

Edited January 17, 2011 by Shogen

[hondakilla98 29]

Maybe you should block off your port and have an optimal sealed box for you 18" xcon.

[shizzzon 461]

Nobody should ever run an 18" sub ported in a typical trunk unless you have over 10-14cubes gross to play with.

Just because the box fit in the trunk doesnt mean much...

The box is not large enough for a low tuned daily setup which lowers efficiency and physical capability of playing very low and choking the output by placing it in a trunk will also lower efficiency.

let me guess... playing music tuned low may sound loud.. but that's pretty mcuh all it is? It may shake the car somewhat.. the shake you feel is more in your back than the car itself?

You need some sub(s) that require smaller volume or a setup that excels in what space you currently have.

Luckily, you did choose 2 12s which typically use 5cuft net very effectively.

If you are like some of these guys and want to tune below 32hz.. you may want to run a single 15 in 5cubes net or little bigger if possible for the car shattering lows.

Please note the power you are running because you may have to use a slightly smaller port to prevent the possibility of the sub from bottoming out with 2kw if using a 15 in that large of box.

[chargeron4s 1]

Alrite im selling the 18 xcon thats what i get for going with the wow factor lol..

[Duran 387]

Seal it, I bet you'd be surprised.

[Shogen 325]

Wish I could fit an 18" in my car without having to face it up towards the rear deck... I'd love to have an 18" pumping lows into my passengers!

For reference charge, I actually have a 12" Icon in my car running sealed, according to everyone so far I am making a mistake not going ported/vented... Anywho, I love it. Set my SSF to 15Hz out of paranoia and allow my sub to crossover to 80Hz... Sounds amazing with my current front, although I've already purchased a new amp for the front stage and looking to change out the drivers soon... Oh, I had to deaden the shyt out of my car trunk because of it though... Cost me like $75 total after all said and one IIRC....lol .. Not too shabby

[shizzzon 461]

Sealing is a good option... The cheapest alternative to test to see if you like it.

[chargeron4s 1]

Wish I could fit an 18" in my car without having to face it up towards the rear deck... I'd love to have an 18" pumping lows into my passengers!

For reference charge, I actually have a 12" Icon in my car running sealed, according to everyone so far I am making a mistake not going ported/vented... Anywho, I love it. Set my SSF to 15Hz out of paranoia and allow my sub to crossover to 80Hz... Sounds amazing with my current front, although I've already purchased a new amp for the front stage and looking to change out the drivers soon... Oh, I had to deaden the shyt out of my car trunk because of it though... Cost me like $75 total after all said and one IIRC....lol .. Not too shabby

I know what you mean i was so into the 18 that i didnt think of the box size lol..Now im stuck with 2 audioque 2200d amps and 1 18 inch xcon,im thinking of purchasing one more 18 inch and walling my car off lol...

[Shogen 325]

OP, do you not like sealed or don't want to go that route??

[Shogen 325]

Don't do a wall, too many times I've seen people not realize how much they like having some cargo.... Anyway, what config did you get your Xcon in? D1 or D2?

D2 would allow you to run the AQ2200 at it's full output... Then you could sell lil' old me your second one for cheap since I'm running with a baby amp... needed in my setup... Pwetty pwease???

[chargeron4s 1]

Don't do a wall, too many times I've seen people not realize how much they like having some cargo.... Anyway, what config did you get your Xcon in? D1 or D2?

D2 would allow you to run the AQ2200 at it's full output... Then you could sell lil' old me your second one for cheap since I'm running with a baby amp... needed in my setup... Pwetty pwease???

Its a d2 it came from marks build..

[Shogen 325]

Don't do a wall, too many times I've seen people not realize how much they like having some cargo.... Anyway, what config did you get your Xcon in? D1 or D2?

D2 would allow you to run the AQ2200 at it's full output... Then you could sell lil' old me your second one for cheap since I'm running with a baby amp... needed in my setup... Pwetty pwease???

Its a d2 it came from marks build..

Posting from a phone?lol ... DBL POST FTL !!

Well then you should have enough headroom/wattage to run one AQ2200 @ 1Ohm and be good to go... How do you have the amps setup now?

[chargeron4s 1]

Don't do a wall, too many times I've seen people not realize how much they like having some cargo.... Anyway, what config did you get your Xcon in? D1 or D2?

D2 would allow you to run the AQ2200 at it's full output... Then you could sell lil' old me your second one for cheap since I'm running with a baby amp... needed in my setup... Pwetty pwease???

Its a d2 it came from marks build..

Posting from a phone?lol ... DBL POST FTL !!

Well then you should have enough headroom/wattage to run one AQ2200 @ 1Ohm and be good to go... How do you have the amps setup now?

its not installed yet?Im gonna go with 2 12 xcons cant i do 1sub per amp?

[S.DeYoung 968]

Don't do a wall, too many times I've seen people not realize how much they like having some cargo.... Anyway, what config did you get your Xcon in? D1 or D2?

D2 would allow you to run the AQ2200 at it's full output... Then you could sell lil' old me your second one for cheap since I'm running with a baby amp... needed in my setup... Pwetty pwease???

Its a d2 it came from marks build..

Posting from a phone?lol ... DBL POST FTL !!

Well then you should have enough headroom/wattage to run one AQ2200 @ 1Ohm and be good to go... How do you have the amps setup now?

its not installed yet?Im gonna go with 2 12 xcons cant i do 1sub per amp?

Get d2 coils, strap the amps together and wire them in series/parallel for a final 2ohm load

[S.DeYoung 968]

Don't do a wall, too many times I've seen people not realize how much they like having some cargo.... Anyway, what config did you get your Xcon in? D1 or D2?

D2 would allow you to run the AQ2200 at it's full output... Then you could sell lil' old me your second one for cheap since I'm running with a baby amp... needed in my setup... Pwetty pwease???

Its a d2 it came from marks build..

Posting from a phone?lol ... DBL POST FTL !!

Well then you should have enough headroom/wattage to run one AQ2200 @ 1Ohm and be good to go... How do you have the amps setup now?

its not installed yet?Im gonna go with 2 12 xcons cant i do 1sub per amp?

Get d2 coils, strap the amps together and wire them in series/parallel for a final 2ohm load

Like this

[Deto1992 5]

It seems like youre not acknowledging all the guys telling you to try and seal off your box before you buy new subs. I understand the desire to always have more subs but, before you spend your money, you should really give this a shot.

[chargeron4s 1]

It seems like youre not acknowledging all the guys telling you to try and seal off your box before you buy new subs. I understand the desire to always have more subs but, before you spend your money, you should really give this a shot.

Naw its because i have found a buyer for it and also found 2 12s for sale.Thanx for all the help i appreciate it.