Looks the original Tumult is back....

[95Honda 486]

HSU Research has a dead ringer for the original Tumult. Regaurdless of what they say, I bet it is pretty unchaged....

Really, an awesome driver......

My link

[jmanjr 0]

That looks like a solid woofer!

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

How do you think it differs from the Tumult-X ?

[95Honda 486]

I think all of the newer XBL2 subs have more modular, cheaper motors. I think those original motors like on the Tumult and early XXXs was designed/machined as form follows function. When Adire switched to the next gen motors for all of thier stuff, they kind of went on a cost savings route. I see the same thing on the DIY cable stuff.

Not that the new stuff is inferior by any means, I just think those first woofers were Dan Wiggins expression of a no cost compromise subwoofer...

[Adrian_D 520]

How different was the Tumult compared to the XXX ?

[Impious 1,476]

I think all of the newer XBL2 subs have more modular, cheaper motors. I think those original motors like on the Tumult and early XXXs was designed/machined as form follows function. When Adire switched to the next gen motors for all of thier stuff, they kind of went on a cost savings route. I see the same thing on the DIY cable stuff.

Not that the new stuff is inferior by any means, I just think those first woofers were Dan Wiggins expression of a no cost compromise subwoofer...

Hard to tell from the picture, but to me it looks like this driver also uses the two-part top plate. I'd gander a guess that even it if was designed similar to the original, it probably uses the same newer assembly/construction method as all of the other XBL drivers. I don't know of any XBL driver currently being produced that doesn't use that style of motor assembly.

[95Honda 486]

It has the original single piece top plate. You can really tell with the tapered appearance......

That gen motor and the XXX were the same.

My current XXX 18s in my H/T were build by David at RE with a pair of Tumult motors I sent to him. They are the same beast..... The same buildhouse built the XXX and Tumult motors.....

[REVpuggie 23]

could be mistaken ,is that spider not a wee bit flimsy ?

question : what company is thinking about re-introducing that driver ?

[95Honda 486]

Check out the link, it is HSU research......

[Adrian_D 520]

Since we are sort of on the XXX / Tumult motor subjects...how did the old Avalanches compare to the XXX's in terms of extension down low and efficiency ?

[95Honda 486]

I didn't really have much experience with the Avalanche. I do know that it has a smaller, less costly motor..... Little less throw also....

Other than that, I think they were similar. It was a shame they went out of production, I think they were a good deal. Bickering between them and Adire killed the whole thing....

[BKOLFO4 29]

The avalanche sounded just like a tumult, but was slightly louder on a meter with less than 800 watts. Beyond 800 watts, the tumult and XXX kill the avalanche with more power.

I have owned all three drivers (actually at the same time). All really nice and sound almost the same.

[kryptonitewhite 1]

Oh what a blast from the past! I never got my hands on one, i got two Avalanches instead. The latest version to be coming out before Adire went under was going to have multi-layer top and bottom plates that way they could customize things easier. XXX had a much higher Fs...was car audio oriented... The Brahma and Avalanche were closer to a Tumult than a XXX was. Avalanche was to Tumult/Brahma like the Ascendant Audio Poly Mid was to the Extremis... almost as good for much much less.

When I bought my Avalanches I went on Brian's reviews as I had my eyes on his Tumults for a while before the Avalanches came out... Avalanche was louder with less power at low volume, Tumult needed a lot more power to shine but when you gave it more, it did outperform.