Gen 3 BTLs and BTL history

[Fi Car Audio 64]

BTL history:

Gen 1- 2 stack and 3 stack of 8.7" magnets. Flatwind and high xmax, cooling options.

Gen 2- Single 11.25" magnet. Flatwind and high xmax coils, cooling and inductance/heat ring options

Gen 3- N1: Single slab Neo magnet with integral finned heatsink. Flatwind and high xmax, cooling option 1000W low weight, lower power line

N2: Dual slab Neo magnet with integral finned heatsink. Flatwind and high xmax, cooling option 2000W low weight, similar performance to Gen2 BTL line

N3: Triple slab Neo magnet with integral heatsink. Flatwind and high xmax options. Possible cooling option, but designed more for SPL than normal daily driving. Lighter weight than older Gen1 and Gen2 BTLs, but with more motor force for SPL applications.

N-SG: Still testing. SPL only extreme class split coil sub. Light weight.

I have already had a few people ask if the Gen 3 versions will be able to play with the older Gen 2. Not 100% sure at this point. While specs are VERY similar, reactively they are different. We will have to do some testing this week to see how different they really are. We don't want to have widely varying curves, although TS params are similar, throwing amps or one speaker or the other way off. I am inclined to think it will be less of an issue than between Gen1 and Gen2.

New BTL line info will be up for N1 and N2 later this week and should be available to order on Monday (allowing people to order ahead while we finish tooling and wait for heat sink order to come in). Subs should be shipping about 4 weeks after in the order they were received.

I should have pics up by tomorrow. We are stilling working on the end cap molds and hope to have a couple of pieces by then.

Thanks,

Scott

[Kanaworm$ 292]

Cannot wait to the see the all new "Beast" BTL!

[BILTD 60]

[REVpuggie 23]

third gen BTL , NICE !

[xAndrew225x 8]

i'm excited!

if the new N1 is only 1000rms, what sets it apart from the BL? besides the neo mag of course...

[ssh 924]

Bookmarked!

[Julian 641]

ZOMG!

[mrbojang 8]

SWEET! I don't really understand the purpose of dividing up the BTL line though...

Looking forward to seeing prices and pictures.

[Duran 387]

[bimmerboy 3]

third gen BTL , NICE !

x2

Sounds awesome

[Fi Car Audio 64]

BTL line has been the foundation for us since day one. It has been where all the trickle down tech has come from. With such a heavy change to things we felt that instead of pulling completely viable product that we should just expand things under the BTL umbrella. They are that much different...

As far as the N1 goes... it somewhat stradles the Q/BL line in terms of power and application, but it is much lighter weight. Not everyone wants a 47lb BL12 in their trunk... but something a hair under 30 seems better. Weight is weight.

BTL-N2 which is the standard BTL replacement saved a significant amount in weight. So much so that we are changing the packaging to be all foam. We purchased a larger 60W laser and are doing the foam bottom pieces cut to shape via that. This will cut shipping costs.... especially internationally. We are looking to up performance where we can and keep costs down or cut them... all without resorting to China and moving more production and parts in house.

Im working on end caps right now. Things look a little odd without them (although things look odd in general). Ill try to get things sorted for pics tomorrow. N3 is similar to original design, but with a slightly less sculpted feel. Coming from 1 1/4" plate, sculpting takes up valuable machine time and adds cost. We reduced things down some and went to just a chamfer around the edges. Saves about 20 minutes... which is HUGE.

We are reworking the site some too to give it a new feel... more in line with our industrial roots and the fact that your speaker is just a slab of steel until you click "buy" and we start flinging chips

Thanks,

Scott

[tericke 0]

I cant wait to see them, I hope they hit just as hard as the 2nd gen or louder

[ssh 924]

I cant wait to see them, I hope they hit just as hard as the 2nd gen or louder

No, there going to be quieter...

[Fi Car Audio 64]

Louder is an issue... physics come into play and there is only so much magically pixie dust that can be sprinkled about before you are tapped out. BTLs have done daily and SPL well. But a pinpoint specific driver could do one or the other better. I think the new N2 does daily a little better than the older version... and the N3 does extreme SPL better.

I try to tell people that there is no magic bullet. Why cant my daily system do monster SPL like the SPL only vehicles? Same reason why a Ferrari doesnt go desert racing. Neither situation is bad, just use the right tool for the application. We are trying to make a few more "tools" for different applications.

[SPL_Man 20]

:woot:

[cheese20323 13]

[xAndrew225x 8]

I cant wait to see them, I hope they hit just as hard as the 2nd gen or louder

No, there going to be quieter...

[xAndrew225x 8]

As far as the N1 goes... it somewhat stradles the Q/BL line in terms of power and application, but it is much lighter weight. Not everyone wants a 47lb BL12 in their trunk... but something a hair under 30 seems better. Weight is weight.

BTL-N2 which is the standard BTL replacement saved a significant amount in weight. So much so that we are changing the packaging to be all foam. We purchased a larger 60W laser and are doing the foam bottom pieces cut to shape via that. This will cut shipping costs.... especially internationally. We are looking to up performance where we can and keep costs down or cut them... all without resorting to China and moving more production and parts in house.

thanks alot for the reply. keep up the great work!

still loving my SSD!

[Hzd Skizzy 27]

I'm thinking about the N1 Instead of a BL.

[manrossdamn 57]

Even though I recently got my Q in, I'm loving it!

I will get two 15 BTL"s one day..

[walled01alero 2]

I just nutted a little.

I'll be a 2nd gen BTL man for life though unless the n2 is that much lighter and performs the same or better..

[smashedz28 110]

im really interested to see if the new will run together with the old.. im for sure ready for a 2nd btl 18.. would hate to have to start all over in order to get 2.. or buy someone else's beat on sub.. damn i hate doin that

[PT3005 1]

im interested but the BTL doesnt come in a 10inch version

[Mac N Cheese 90]

looking forward to these

[onebadmonte 235]

im interested but the BTL doesnt come in a 10inch version

That's like wanting the fastest car on earth then passing on owning a Bugatti Veyron because it lacks trunk space.