SSA XCON 15D2 or Fi Q 15D2

[PHATBOi 38]

Either one will be in ~2.8^3 after displacements tune to 30-32Hz.

Q 15D2 would be run with an AP15001D.

Xcon 15D2 would be run by an AP18001D.

This will be a daily ground pounder setup that I might throw in a bass race when a show comes town. Looking to be musical, get low, and still be loud. Electrical will be a 140 amp ho alt, red top up front, 100ah in trunk.

Which choice do you think would better suit my wants?

Thanks.

[stevemead08 752]

Since you added LOUD. i say the xcon

[cheese20323 13]

thhere not even comparable xcon in this decision.

[PHATBOi 38]

Yes, I definately still want to get loud. I was leanin towards the Xcon, but the Q setup would be way cheaper, lol. The Q is ~$100 less itself and I already have the AP15001D, so I wouldn't have to buy the AP18001D.

Ok, next question. Would there be an audible difference with the Xcon 15 between the AP15001D and the AP18001D?

[Jay-C76 333]

unbiased opinion, either one will be fine.

both will be fine for music, but when push comes to shove the Xcon

might be louder. It depends on the in car, true life readings though.

[jcarter1885 995]

Yes, I definately still want to get loud. I was leanin towards the Xcon, but the Q setup would be way cheaper, lol. The Q is ~$100 less itself and I already have the AP15001D, so I wouldn't have to buy the AP18001D.

Ok, next question. Would there be an audible difference with the Xcon 15 between the AP15001D and the AP18001D?

No there wouldnt so just keep the AP1500D and run the Xcon on that.

[stevemead08 752]

Yes, I definately still want to get loud. I was leanin towards the Xcon, but the Q setup would be way cheaper, lol. The Q is ~$100 less itself and I already have the AP15001D, so I wouldn't have to buy the AP18001D.

Ok, next question. Would there be an audible difference with the Xcon 15 between the AP15001D and the AP18001D?

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The Qs are great, i have them i know.

But you want the xcon. run it off the 1500 and be done with it

[PHATBOi 38]

Sounds like a plan. Thanks guys.

[PHATBOi 38]

Was planning a SSA XCON 15D2 for income tax, but just stumbled upon this

Brand new designs

Unleash your music with room to spare with the Axis 15Q1 15" subwoofer. The AXIS is designed with high motor force, long excursion and very high power handling to provide loud deep bass in the mobile environment, or any environment where small enclosure size and ultra-high SPL are required. The AXIS has a 40+ pound motor, flat-wound 8-layer conductor voice coil on a triple reinforced stainless steel former; it works harder so you don't have to give up half your car to a large subwoofer box. Specifications: • Power handling: 1,000 watts RMS/4,000 watts peak • Le: 9 mH • Impedance: 1.2 ohms per coil x 4 • Re: 4.83 ohms • Frequency range: 15 - 150 Hz • Fs: 23.0 Hz • SPL: 87.5 dB • Vas: 4.51 cu. ft. • Qms: 6.70 • Qes: 0.42 • Qts: 0.39 • Xmax: 26.5 • Dimensions: Overall diameter 15.60", Cutout diameter 14.02", Depth 9.28" • Weight: 53.2 lbs. Note: All specifications are with voice coils connected in series.

High-temperature low eddy-current stainless steel voicecoil former

Quad 1.2 ohm voicecoil using 8-layer flatwound Aluminum wire

Extra-tall gap for higher BL and additional power-handling

10" linear spider suspension with large integral lead-wires

225 oz. magnet motor structure

Patent-pending XBR tall profile surround for 3" peak-to-peak travel

Field-replaceable top assembly system

Single dish aircraft-grade Aluminum alloy cone

Very high BL for efficient low-frequency performance and small enclosure designs

I really like the idea of it being specifically designed for a small enclosure.

Would be run off my AP15001D at 1 ohm (quad 1 ohm, 2 coils wired up to 2, 4 coils wired down to 1) in a iamamp3pimp box (of course) tuned low ~30.

What do yall think?

Edited August 11, 2010 by PHATBOi

[Bob345 39]

Was planning a SSA XCON 15D2 for income tax, but just stumbled upon this

Brand new designs

Unleash your music with room to spare with the Axis 15Q1 15" subwoofer. The AXIS is designed with high motor force, long excursion and very high power handling to provide loud deep bass in the mobile environment, or any environment where small enclosure size and ultra-high SPL are required. The AXIS has a 40+ pound motor, flat-wound 8-layer conductor voice coil on a triple reinforced stainless steel former; it works harder so you don't have to give up half your car to a large subwoofer box. Specifications: • Power handling: 1,000 watts RMS/4,000 watts peak • Le: 9 mH • Impedance: 1.2 ohms per coil x 4 • Re: 4.83 ohms • Frequency range: 15 - 150 Hz • Fs: 23.0 Hz • SPL: 87.5 dB • Vas: 4.51 cu. ft. • Qms: 6.70 • Qes: 0.42 • Qts: 0.39 • Xmax: 26.5 • Dimensions: Overall diameter 15.60", Cutout diameter 14.02", Depth 9.28" • Weight: 53.2 lbs. Note: All specifications are with voice coils connected in series.

High-temperature low eddy-current stainless steel voicecoil former

Quad 1.2 ohm voicecoil using 8-layer flatwound Aluminum wire

Extra-tall gap for higher BL and additional power-handling

10" linear spider suspension with large integral lead-wires

225 oz. magnet motor structure

Patent-pending XBR tall profile surround for 3" peak-to-peak travel

Field-replaceable top assembly system

Single dish aircraft-grade Aluminum alloy cone

Very high BL for efficient low-frequency performance and small enclosure designs

I really like the idea of it being specifically designed for a small enclosure.

Would be run off my AP15001D at 1 ohm (quad 1 ohm, 2 coils wired up to 2, 4 coils wired down to 1) in a iamamp3pimp box (of course) tuned low ~30.

What do yall think?

The new tc subs are prety sweet, they have also come down in price considering the axis 15 used to go for close to $700 now it think they are in the $500 range

[PHATBOi 38]

Was planning a SSA XCON 15D2 for income tax, but just stumbled upon this

Brand new designs

Unleash your music with room to spare with the Axis 15Q1 15" subwoofer. The AXIS is designed with high motor force, long excursion and very high power handling to provide loud deep bass in the mobile environment, or any environment where small enclosure size and ultra-high SPL are required. The AXIS has a 40+ pound motor, flat-wound 8-layer conductor voice coil on a triple reinforced stainless steel former; it works harder so you don't have to give up half your car to a large subwoofer box. Specifications: • Power handling: 1,000 watts RMS/4,000 watts peak • Le: 9 mH • Impedance: 1.2 ohms per coil x 4 • Re: 4.83 ohms • Frequency range: 15 - 150 Hz • Fs: 23.0 Hz • SPL: 87.5 dB • Vas: 4.51 cu. ft. • Qms: 6.70 • Qes: 0.42 • Qts: 0.39 • Xmax: 26.5 • Dimensions: Overall diameter 15.60", Cutout diameter 14.02", Depth 9.28" • Weight: 53.2 lbs. Note: All specifications are with voice coils connected in series.

High-temperature low eddy-current stainless steel voicecoil former

Quad 1.2 ohm voicecoil using 8-layer flatwound Aluminum wire

Extra-tall gap for higher BL and additional power-handling

10" linear spider suspension with large integral lead-wires

225 oz. magnet motor structure

Patent-pending XBR tall profile surround for 3" peak-to-peak travel

Field-replaceable top assembly system

Single dish aircraft-grade Aluminum alloy cone

Very high BL for efficient low-frequency performance and small enclosure designs

I really like the idea of it being specifically designed for a small enclosure.

Would be run off my AP15001D at 1 ohm (quad 1 ohm, 2 coils wired up to 2, 4 coils wired down to 1) in a iamamp3pimp box (of course) tuned low ~30.

What do yall think?

The new tc subs are prety sweet, they have also come down in price considering the axis 15 used to go for close to $700 now it think they are in the $500 range

Yeah $450 shipped at partsexpress. I am really diggin this sub. I hear the old school ones where pretty bad ass. I really like the fact that the recone comes with the whole top assembly. Its like a step up on Kicker's SPAIR technology. No having to pay someone to do a recone.

[PHATBOi 38]

Just got the back story on Thilo and TC Sounds, not really something I want to get involved with. Lil to shady sounding to me. I think the Xcon is gonna be the best choice for what I want. Was just keeping an open mind to other possibilities.