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How can i turn my rear subs on and off? i ask this because at the moment i share a car until my mom gets a new one.

Should i buy an equilizarer?

How the hell do i build a box?

Ive been trying to figure it out, because thats prob one of the things i should be doing because im trying to organize my money so i know what im buying.

FYi, i am either making a box for a havoc or a btl, dunno yet, most likely a btl just for cost reasons.

hope you can help

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How can i turn my rear subs on and off?

The question couldn't be any more vague. For starters, we haven't got a clue what your system does or will consist of.

Some headunits have a feature built in that allows you to turn off the sub output.

If your headunit doesn't have that feature, the 2nd most simple option is the install an SPST switch on the REM wire for the subwoofer amplifier.

Should i buy an equilizarer?

What? Is this a separate question, or related to the first question?

How the hell do i build a box?

You either design a box or have one designed for you, cut MDF to the appropriate dimensions and glue it together.

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For the same reasons I mentioned in your other thread about the BTL I think you should look into some lower powered subs. BTL's really need a stout amplifier to perform at their full potential and a stout amp REQUIRES stout electrical. Now, if this is a car you're sharing you really don't want to sink a ton of money into power wire, batteries and a HO alt just to get your own different car and possibly have to spend that money ALL OVER AGAIN to do the same for the new one. I think you should be looking at subs like the DCON, Daber Audio's, DC level 2's, IA 187's, maybe some SA-12's, something that doesn't require as much power to perform. That means less electrical to keep up with the amp and a cheaper amp too.

I really believe this would be your best move. On turning the sub(s) off, if the HU doesn't have the ability built in then just put a simple switch in the remote wire to turn the amp on and off with. On the box, there's most likely someone from the forum nearby who could help you build one, or you can have one custom built by Argent or one of the other companies here.

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For the same reasons I mentioned in your other thread about the BTL I think you should look into some lower powered subs. BTL's really need a stout amplifier to perform at their full potential and a stout amp REQUIRES stout electrical. Now, if this is a car you're sharing you really don't want to sink a ton of money into power wire, batteries and a HO alt just to get your own different car and possibly have to spend that money ALL OVER AGAIN to do the same for the new one. I think you should be looking at subs like the DCON, Daber Audio's, DC level 2's, IA 187's, maybe some SA-12's, something that doesn't require as much power to perform. That means less electrical to keep up with the amp and a cheaper amp too.

I really believe this would be your best move. On turning the sub(s) off, if the HU doesn't have the ability built in then just put a simple switch in the remote wire to turn the amp on and off with. On the box, there's most likely someone from the forum nearby who could help you build one, or you can have one custom built by Argent or one of the other companies here.

Well as stated i am able to do put money into this car because im gona have it for awhile, and i understand you think i should start small but im going to go all out, always do, always will, just my personality, is it good prob not ha

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How can i turn my rear subs on and off?

The question couldn't be any more vague. For starters, we haven't got a clue what your system does or will consist of.

Some headunits have a feature built in that allows you to turn off the sub output.

If your headunit doesn't have that feature, the 2nd most simple option is the install an SPST switch on the REM wire for the subwoofer amplifier.

Should i buy an equilizarer?

What? Is this a separate question, or related to the first question?

How the hell do i build a box?

You either design a box or have one designed for you, cut MDF to the appropriate dimensions and glue it together.

First question-1 15" BTL, Audioque 2200D or Sundown

Second-My question bout an equilizer is should i buy one because my headunit does not have a bass gain knob

how do i figure out the demensions for a ported box? i know it has to do with the fs(hertz), qts and vas, but i dont know what to do with these numbers

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Get a Sundown 1500 for your future btl, you won't need to much electrical updates: only the big3 with O ga power wire and grounds everywhere.

Don't be cheap on the box : ask Argent audio, Khaotic enclosures, Audibel customs, fisher customs, or get a free design on the TECHNICAL section (look at the top of your screen).

The remote gain on the amp will allow you to turn the bass down easily.

If you're on a tight budget, get 2 sa 12" on the same saz 1500 or a cheaper amp(AQ, Mb Quart,Audiopipe,...)

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Get a Sundown 1500 for your future btl, you won't need to much electrical updates: only the big3 with O ga power wire and grounds everywhere.

Don't be cheap on the box : ask Argent audio, Khaotic enclosures, Audibel customs, fisher customs, or get a free design on the TECHNICAL section (look at the top of your screen).

The remote gain on the amp will allow you to turn the bass down easily.

If you're on a tight budget, get 2 sa 12" on the same saz 1500 or a cheaper amp(AQ, Mb Quart,Audiopipe,...)

Thanks for the info, have you ever heard of davetheboxguy, he apperently makes amazing boxes, check him out at davetheboxguy.com and tell me what ya think.

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Never heared about him. I will take a look at his site.

But the ones I told you about make fantastic enclosures.

Building a box is something, but you need THE right design.

If you're confident with him, go for it.

With such a beast (the btl), do it right !

Get a used or cheap amp, you will have more money for the custom enclosure.

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Never heared about him. I will take a look at his site.

But the ones I told you about make fantastic enclosures.

Building a box is something, but you need THE right design.

If you're confident with him, go for it.

With such a beast (the btl), do it right !

Get a used or cheap amp, you will have more money for the custom enclosure.

Yea, the btl is quite the beast, ive been looking into some designs, should i go ported for the beast or an othr type of box?

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For the same reasons I mentioned in your other thread about the BTL I think you should look into some lower powered subs. BTL's really need a stout amplifier to perform at their full potential and a stout amp REQUIRES stout electrical. Now, if this is a car you're sharing you really don't want to sink a ton of money into power wire, batteries and a HO alt just to get your own different car and possibly have to spend that money ALL OVER AGAIN to do the same for the new one

True, to perform at full potential, but on the same power it should be louder then the BL or Q.

So if he already buys the btl he isn't going to change subs later, only amps. :P:popcorn:

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For the same reasons I mentioned in your other thread about the BTL I think you should look into some lower powered subs. BTL's really need a stout amplifier to perform at their full potential and a stout amp REQUIRES stout electrical. Now, if this is a car you're sharing you really don't want to sink a ton of money into power wire, batteries and a HO alt just to get your own different car and possibly have to spend that money ALL OVER AGAIN to do the same for the new one

True, to perform at full potential, but on the same power it should be louder then the BL or Q.

So if he already buys the btl he isn't going to change subs later, only amps. :P:popcorn:

I love the "GO BIG, OR GO HOME" philosophy. I almost bought a BTL for the Jimmy instead of the SA-8's for that same reason. In all honesty, the reason I tried to talk him out of the BTL setup is simply because I'm affraid that once he starts down the road to a BTL he might decide to cut corners for cost, difficulty, or inpatience reasons. Then be either unhappy with the results or end up with broken equipment. The bigger the setup the more money AND time it takes to do it right, all of us with experience knows that. If he can get the enclosure built properly then the amp and electrical can come in time, true enough. My biggest concern is that like most younger people today (my little brother included) he'll not want to WAIT for things to run their course and everything be done correctly then be back on here asking why the sub blew or the amp fried. If he's in it for the long haul then I expect the results to be as fantastic as the rest of the great BTL installs I've seen.

SAMZ, if you're sure you're ready then go for it.

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For the same reasons I mentioned in your other thread about the BTL I think you should look into some lower powered subs. BTL's really need a stout amplifier to perform at their full potential and a stout amp REQUIRES stout electrical. Now, if this is a car you're sharing you really don't want to sink a ton of money into power wire, batteries and a HO alt just to get your own different car and possibly have to spend that money ALL OVER AGAIN to do the same for the new one

True, to perform at full potential, but on the same power it should be louder then the BL or Q.

So if he already buys the btl he isn't going to change subs later, only amps. :P:popcorn:

I love the "GO BIG, OR GO HOME" philosophy. I almost bought a BTL for the Jimmy instead of the SA-8's for that same reason. In all honesty, the reason I tried to talk him out of the BTL setup is simply because I'm affraid that once he starts down the road to a BTL he might decide to cut corners for cost, difficulty, or inpatience reasons. Then be either unhappy with the results or end up with broken equipment. The bigger the setup the more money AND time it takes to do it right, all of us with experience knows that. If he can get the enclosure built properly then the amp and electrical can come in time, true enough. My biggest concern is that like most younger people today (my little brother included) he'll not want to WAIT for things to run their course and everything be done correctly then be back on here asking why the sub blew or the amp fried. If he's in it for the long haul then I expect the results to be as fantastic as the rest of the great BTL installs I've seen.

SAMZ, if you're sure you're ready then go for it.

Haha yea i think im ready, i just will need some advising, however and luckily, i am a tech and clean freak wen it comes to wires and what not. Im glad you love my philosophy, its pretty bad sometimes but w.e at least im not a cheap ass haha

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