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Fi BL Vs. SSA XCON Vs. Fi Q Vs. AA Havoc

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I'm getting 2 12's of either kind. What's most important to me is the SQ, then the lows, and then SPL. I will have all the upgrades I need, as far as BIG 3, H/O Alternator, and XS power battery ( based on which subs i choose). The box i have is 5cuft tuned to 30Hz. Also if i decide the BL or Q i will get the 2 Sundown SAZ-1000D or 1 SAZ-2000D, If i choose the XCONS i will get a sundown SAZ-3500D, If i choose the Havocs I will pre-ordder the Sun-down SAZ-2500D.

What will get louder?

What will sound the best while being loud?

&

What will hit the lows the best while being loud and having good SQ?

Also money is not a problem.

Any input is helpful :)

Thanks guys

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If I were you, I'd get the xcons with saz-3500d. They will get loud and they will sound good doing it. Hitting the lows is relative to what you consider low, and its box dependent ;)

The lower you tune the better sq but less output on higher end. 30hz is a good choice for what you want.

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XCON.

Haha biased, but it looks like a great suibwoofer from all the reviews. How do you like you're XCONS for SPL, SQ, and hitting lows?

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I have played with ALOT of woofers over the years....the Xcons hands down is my #1 choice

smooth , flat and accurate with a HARD hit all around

and I would avoid the BL like herpies...they are one of the peakiest sounding subs I have ever heard

they are loud and will hit a small range of notes hard but not musical at all

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If I were you, I'd get the xcons with saz-3500d. They will get loud and they will sound good doing it. Hitting the lows is relative to what you consider low, and its box dependent ;)

The lower you tune the better sq but less output on higher end. 30hz is a good choice for what you want.

Yah 30Hz box, What i consider low is the low note on "I Put on" that's one of the only examples i have. I've never been able to pick it up or hear anyone pick it up, except videos on Youtube. Haha

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I have played with ALOT of woofers over the years....the Xcons hands down is my #1 choice

smooth , flat and accurate with a HARD hit all around

and I would avoid the BL like herpies...they are one of the peakiest sounding subs I have ever heard

they are loud and will hit a small range of notes hard but not musical at all

A lot of people suggesting XCONS. Sounds like a good choice. Any body ever heard any of these subs?

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Mark (co-owner of ssa) hits it pretty f***ing well with his 2 18" xcons. His box is tuned to 26hz.

I heard it a couple weekends ago and I was sold ;)

So yes, I have heard the xcons and icons and I love them both :P

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This is all heavily dependent on the install and build. All 4 drivers are very capable and can out preform most competitors. But the 4 you mentioned are in a little different market segments and design goals. The Havoc and Xcon are your all our super sub types, the Q is an excellent SQ driver, and the BL is a stout daily ground pounder. So you need to focus in on exactly what you are going for with out thinking about being loud ( as all 4 can get very loud in the proper install ) or thinking about sounding good as again all 4 can, but heavily dependent on the install.

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This is all heavily dependent on the install and build. All 4 drivers are very capable and can out preform most competitors. But the 4 you mentioned are in a little different market segments and design goals. The Havoc and Xcon are your all our super sub types, the Q is an excellent SQ driver, and the BL is a stout daily ground pounder. So you need to focus in on exactly what you are going for with out thinking about being loud ( as all 4 can get very loud in the proper install ) or thinking about sounding good as again all 4 can, but heavily dependent on the install.

I completely agree but I would still avoid the BL like herpies.....LOL

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This is all heavily dependent on the install and build. All 4 drivers are very capable and can out preform most competitors. But the 4 you mentioned are in a little different market segments and design goals. The Havoc and Xcon are your all our super sub types, the Q is an excellent SQ driver, and the BL is a stout daily ground pounder. So you need to focus in on exactly what you are going for with out thinking about being loud ( as all 4 can get very loud in the proper install ) or thinking about sounding good as again all 4 can, but heavily dependent on the install.

I have a feeling I'm going to have a very nice install :) I'm getting Argent Audio to do it for me!

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