Alpine woofer improvements for 2010

[aboveak 8]

I just noticed that Alpine improved their woofers and they seem to be much better than before. Alpine electronics

With the addition of a pole vent, slimmer mounting depth, and bigger motor. I'm not really a fan of many mainstream manufactors but i'm curious to see how these do. Anyone hear about them yet?

[aboveak 8]

looks like it's only the Type R 10's and 12's from what i can see

[KU40 173]

[Kanaworm$ 292]

[BanginGMC 23]

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[Impious 1,476]

Interesting to see Alpine promoting BL linearity/etc on many of their products on the web. On one of their mids they had posted up a "theoretical" BL graph between their driver and a "typical" driver. That page looks like it has an actual Klippel measurement of the drivers. Much better than the typical B.S. most mass market manufacturers promote.

I won't buy one simply because it doesn't fit my needs, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were good performing products.

[aboveak 8]

Ya i was surprised to see that too. It's definitely a turn in the right direction for them. I'm mainly curious because i did have two 12 R's that were alright but i still love my icon much more. I'm thinking i'll buy one for the girlfriend, since i can get one cheap. I use her truck as the guinea pig anyway.

[Randal Johnson 544]

[DiabolicCustoms 4]

I had 2 Type X 12's in the wifes car. They were a phenomanol sounding sub. Clear and and somewhat powerful. Definately a sq sub. I'm hoping that the Xcon we are about to install is twice that from all the reveiws I have read.

[Notorious97200 339]

I had 2 Type X 12's in the wifes car. They were a phenomanol sounding sub. Clear and and somewhat powerful. Definately a sq sub. I'm hoping that the Xcon we are about to install is twice that from all the reveiws I have read.

Can you tell us how you like the xcon after using type X ?

Oh, only one Xcon ... don't know if it will be fair to compare one Xcon with 2 type X ?

[DiabolicCustoms 4]

the box for the type x's was like at the minimal i could go. so i know they weren't going at their best. when metered i only got a 136.8 on a TL on a music at a local show. they were clean all the way to what limit i could put them to. and the XCON is a 15 so I'm hoping that I can get more force out of it. Teh X's would get low and rumble but the one ICON in a box i heard and felt at a show was almost twice what those x's were doing. but yes I will definately post up and let ya'll know what i think.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Quality products for sure, but wow, the MSRP is brutal. Equal or superior drivers for less money available from numerous brands.

[BanginGMC 23]

They have made new amps too guys, i want to know how the new model type r compares to the older model

[DiabolicCustoms 4]

I will never buy a head unit that isn't a Alpine, just my stance on things. And the MSRP is very very harsh on the wallet. I paid 400 a piece for the x's.

[aboveak 8]

I had the X's as well and i like the Icon way more. Comparable output but much much better sound quality. and it's cheaper

Edited April 23, 2010 by aboveak

[aboveak 8]

got the new R installed in the gf's truck. I paid 180 shipped for it which is great cause about $100 of that would be just shipping for another sub here.

Anyway i put it in a temporary sealed box of 1 cu.ft net. I'll build a dual ported setup later on. From hearing my Icon everyday to hearing the R was a let down honestly but yet good output on 500rms. The one thing i hated about it was it has NO low end. The Icon blasts the low ends. The R does however have significant output in the 40hz range where i'm to assume the cabin gain helped out. The one thing nice about the Icon was the output didn't change much in the entire bandwidth. This was with no processing. I couldn't point out a frequency that was significantly louder than another. I love that.

As far as sound quality the Icon is better but the R isn't bad. The R has an absolutely silent motor. The transient response is better than the previous model but not as precise as the Icon. Before i say anything about muddiness i'll have to play with box sizes, then again i might get rid of the thing and give the gf my old Icon and get newer ones. IDK yet.

All in all for the price it isn't bad. Would i buy one for myself in another vehicle? No. I'd pay a lil extra to be happy with the driver's performance.

Edited July 29, 2010 by aboveak

[snail05 0]

everytime i hear an alpine sub it just has nothing in the low end... i havent heard the type x's tho