DCON or RF P1?

[splxtreme 8]

I have a buddy that had someone put his system together and they put in RF P1 10's. How much better would it be to recommend a DCON instead (SQ and SPL)? One thing also, is the P1's are single 4 ohm and he has a 600d1 or something, so my guess is 600rms at 1ohm. right off the bat, I would think the DCON's would be better, because he can get them in dual 4's, and run it at 1 ohm. (he does have 2 10's) Any experiance would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to look like an idiot if I gave him the wrong answer.

[Mark LaFountain 1,054]

I have a buddy that had someone put his system together and they put in RF P1 10's. How much better would it be to recommend a DCON instead (SQ and SPL)? One thing also, is the P1's are single 4 ohm and he has a 600d1 or something, so my guess is 600rms at 1ohm. right off the bat, I would think the DCON's would be better, because he can get them in dual 4's, and run it at 1 ohm. (he does have 2 10's) Any experiance would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to look like an idiot if I gave him the wrong answer.

Yah, right off, you would get full rated power @ 1 ohm with 2 dcon 10d4's. Secondly i'm sure he would be happier with our subs. I'll let the members comment on that part.

[cheese20323 13]

DCON FTW. Not can the dcon get louder sound cleaner and have the ability to run his amp at 1 ohm. And that amp is a perfect match for them

Edited April 20, 2010 by cheese20323

[abmoore 8]

2 DCON Dual 4s FTW x100. Those p1s don't compare IMHO. With the right enclosure I am sure it will be a big difference.

[Impious 1,476]

First I would verify the output and what impedance his amplifier is capable of operating at.

Second, it depends on what enclosure you (he) plans to use them in. The Dcon's are great budget minded subs for ported enclosures. For sealed enclosures, I think there are better options. So it would be helpful to know what your enclosure options are (sealed only, or if ported is a possibility) and if you or he are able to build a ported enclosure or have the budget to have one built. Or if you are planning to use an existing enclosure, we would need to know details of the enclosure.

[abmoore 8]

I couldn't find a current RF 6001d, they do have a 700-1bd, and that is one ohm stable. Could you get the model and year for us?

[splxtreme 8]

I couldn't find a current RF 6001d, they do have a 700-1bd, and that is one ohm stable. Could you get the model and year for us?

I'll ask he tomorrow. I couldn't find it either, but I'm almost 100% sure it is 1 ohm stable. Also, he has a custom enclosure that was built, and kind of large for 10's also. I've made plenty of boxes, so if he would let me, I would definitely build a ported enclosure from him. the way the setup is now in a Cadillac trunk, it is already wasting space. I highly doubt the installer knew what they were doing. The box is right in the middle of the trunk where the spare tire was, and the subs are pointing up. Some of the enclosure is in the spare tire well also. the amps are mounted flush to the back seats.

I personally would have had the subs facing the back, up against the back seat, and the amps somewhere else. Thanks for all the replies, very reassuring. Not that it means much either, but based off of winisd, the dcon should play lower, and with the better match to the amp, there should be an overall db increase of 4db's.

[lithium 358]

you should really make sure his existing enclosure will be ok the for dcon as not to damage them. personally i would like to see u build him one to spec. if your capable.

[KU40 173]

First I would verify the output and what impedance his amplifier is capable of operating at.

x2. Most manufacturers make several mono amps and it seems the most common are a smaller monoblock that's 5-600 watts @ 2 ohms and a larger one at 1000-1200 watts @ 1 ohm.

[splxtreme 8]

you should really make sure his existing enclosure will be ok the for dcon as not to damage them. personally i would like to see u build him one to spec. if your capable.

If I can't build a new one for him, and if the enclosure is too large, I'll just fill it with something to take up the space needed. I've already told him not to crank it when he first gets them, and let me make the necessary adjustments.

[RobClay 20]

This is a no-brainer.. Dcons.

Too many experiences with rockford, the P1' just flat out suck.

[splxtreme 8]

OK, he has a 5-year old Power 6001bd. I guess it is only 2 ohm stable. Might work at 1, but I'm not going to risk it. Thankfully he didn't get the subs yet, so I'll have him order 2 4ohm 10's then. Thanks for all your comments.

[lithium 358]

good choice.

[aimone 4]

yeah rf's only subs worth getting are the power series like the T2 or the older power hx2. id tell him get a sundown 8 them cute lil subs are monsters