fat mat ?

[smashedz28 110]

See alot of people using this product.. its cheaper than second skin.. how does it perform compared to second skin? Im considering deadening my tahoe so ill need alot... this stuff just seems cheap lol... but what do I know im just goin off pictures. anybody use it that can give me some sort of review? appreciate any help.

[shadowslayer666 1]

it does not seem as thick as some of the other competitors out there, it only has 3 mils thick aluminum, which from my understanding is what actually stops the rattles, by making the sheet metal more ridged. But it says it uses a rubberized adhesive; which is way better than an asphalt adhesive so that is a plus. It seems like it would be ok, but from your sig you got quite a system going in so i dont think i would go cheap on on the sound deadening. Just my opinion though, do it right the first time...especially if your doing full coverage

[slim2fattycake 85]

Check the link in my sig for sound deadening. Talk to Don. Technique and quality over quantity and junk.

[Wackzirth88 4]

I recently installed some fatmat in my trunk and rear deck. It wasn't near as thick as I thought it was gonna be and it has a pretty strong odor, kind of an asphalt smell. It was my first time doing it so I don't know how it compares to second skin, but from what I hear second skin is the shit. As far as results from the fatmat, I'm satisfied deadened the rattle outside of the car and it sounds much better inside the car. Actually get to enjoy the sound of my subs without annoying buzzing and rattling.

I definatly don't regret it but the next time I do it I'll spend more money for better quality deadner. It was alot of work, not something I look forward to doing again. Best to do it right the first time

Edited March 24, 2010 by zack w

[Rudeboy 152]

it does not seem as thick as some of the other competitors out there, it only has 3 mils thick aluminum, which from my understanding is what actually stops the rattles, by making the sheet metal more ridged. But it says it uses a rubberized adhesive; which is way better than an asphalt adhesive so that is a plus. It seems like it would be ok, but from your sig you got quite a system going in so i dont think i would go cheap on on the sound deadening. Just my opinion though, do it right the first time...especially if your doing full coverage

"rubberized adhesive" is what people selling asphalt call asphalt when they don't want to say "asphalt" Misleading as hell but it's asphalt. At least they stopped saying it was butyl.

[Wackzirth88 4]

Oh yea it's asphalt. No doubt about it, its has a distinct smell-asphalt. It's only 50-60 degrees around here now but not looking forward to how much it's gonna smell on hot summer days.

[Kanaworm$ 292]

Junk imo! If you spend the money on that crap might as well plan on re-doing it again in 6 months. Check out the link from phi's sig! SDS is where you will get the most for your money and will learn a ton from the explanations for each product offered.

[shadowslayer666 1]

i really like my SDS tiles. Only ordered 12 for my entire trunk and rear deck and it is nice and quite now. Best 20 bucks i ever spent

[slo2sixty 0]

I did my trunk and doors in my car with the rattletrap extream. It helped a lot, my exhaust is a lot quiter now. But I'm still waitng to see how it works with my ssd when I get it

[Impious 1,476]

www.sounddeadenershowdown.com

Go there if you are in need of sound deadening. Don't buy Fatmat...as mentioned it's asphalt based which is an inferior material, hence it's an inferior product.

[CadillacMatt 31]

Damplifier FTGDW

[smashedz28 110]

appreciate the responses everybody its why i keep commin here. SDS it will be then. I have absolutely no deadener as of right now, system isnt in yet, but when i run the system i plan on pulling out the seats and the carpet to run wires.. so not deadening the floor while im at it will be a waste. guess i can put the build off another week or 2 and get some of this stuff. My gut told me fatmat was garbage and thats why i needed to post it here to get the scoop. again, really appreciate the help guys, havent been steered wrong since i found this place

Another thing that worries me is the roof of my Tahoe.. I honestly hate pullin shit apart cause it never seems to go back the way it used to be lol.. I always gotta get my dad involved when i pull door panels or take apart the dash so I dont mess something up . How do most headliners hold up? is it clips like most door panels? I know they are kind of fragile. I would love to deaden the roof but im kinda worried about pullin it down and it not goin back up right.. anything you guys can tell me to get thru this easier? am i worried about nothing? is it a piece of cake? is it the biggest pain in the ass of deadening a vehicle?

[shadowslayer666 1]

haha i know how you feel when you have to ask your dad to take the car apart and everything. Im the same way. i just dont want to screw anything up...but it helps my dad is a mechanic for gm and can look up anything on the computer...They even have pictures on how to take the car apart

[smashedz28 110]

wish I had access to that thing I mean.. i can get stuff apart, ive done it before... just feel more comfortable when he is there helpin lol.. most of the time its pretty easy, there has been times i can get door panels and dash out no problem.. others i end up fighting with it. irritates me. sorry about the off topic.. soooo what about lining the roof with deadener? Anybody have any interesting story's about taking down the head liner? I checked out sound deadener showdown, looks like im gonna get me some of those, not sure how much yet, but the price is for sure right. get me a bunch of tiles

[slim2fattycake 85]

it does not seem as thick as some of the other competitors out there, it only has 3 mils thick aluminum, which from my understanding is what actually stops the rattles, by making the sheet metal more ridged. But it says it uses a rubberized adhesive; which is way better than an asphalt adhesive so that is a plus. It seems like it would be ok, but from your sig you got quite a system going in so i dont think i would go cheap on on the sound deadening. Just my opinion though, do it right the first time...especially if your doing full coverage

"rubberized adhesive" is what people selling asphalt call asphalt when they don't want to say "asphalt" Misleading as hell but it's asphalt. At least they stopped saying it was butyl.

PM this guy and tell him the space you have and what you want to stop and he will tell you exactly what you need, no more or less.

PS- if you couldn't tell from Rudy's sig, he's Don, the ower of SDS.

[Rudeboy 152]

Once again, I really appreciate the kind words.

Treating the roof, especially a large roof, can make a big difference since it is such a large panel right above your head. As with any project like this, a shop manual can be a huge help - there's nothing like knowing exactly where the clips are and what they look like before you start pulling. You may be able find one for free online. I buy one whenever I buy a vehicle.

You'll want two people if you are going to take the headliner out of the vehicle. You don't want to crease it. On some vehicles it is possible to lower one side, reach in to do what you need to do, reattach that side and move over to the other.

[CadillacMatt 31]

Once again, I really appreciate the kind words.

Treating the roof, especially a large roof, can make a big difference since it is such a large panel right above your head. As with any project like this, a shop manual can be a huge help - there's nothing like knowing exactly where the clips are and what they look like before you start pulling. You may be able find one for free online. I buy one whenever I buy a vehicle.

You'll want two people if you are going to take the headliner out of the vehicle. You don't want to crease it. On some vehicles it is possible to lower one side, reach in to do what you need to do, reattach that side and move over to the other.

I definitely second that... I had a major problem with my roof slapping around when the lows hit, put maybe a total of 10sqft Damplifier Pro and added some extra padding (which might help if you have a roof skin that's come loose from the roof support) and it made all the difference in the world.

One thing worth mentioning is that you don't need to attain total coverage in order to make a substantial difference... a few well-placed pieces on the largest stretches of bare metal skin should be completely adequate

No way the headliner was coming out... lol... this is what I was workin' with

[Sir-Lancelot 216]

One thing that helped me on the roof, was the addition of some dynaliner foam. I used dynamat extreme in the center of the big metal roof panels, added expanding window foam to fill gaps between the rear ac vents and stuff attached to the headliner, and a layer of Dynaliner foam between the headliner and the roof. It made a huge difference. I was amazed at how loud the headliner actually was and the difference it made in the overall SQ. Once you start taking things apart you will see what you need to remove, just go slow and dont force something off. If it's hard to pull something is holding it. It will drop right off once everything holding it is losened.

[smashedz28 110]

Didnt know that was the owner of SDS, but glad to know. When i make up my mind on what I want to do.. its sds all the way

[Anthony Collova 2]

Fatmat is one of th eonly products out there I would seriously warn people against.

1. Asphalt

2. soft & thin foil

3. thin adhesive

4. toxic

5. not crosslinked

6, 7 ,8 ...

The list keep going...

The question was asked how it comepares to Second Skin, so that, I will answer.

First, Second Skin is the name of the company, not the name of any product we make, so there needs to be some clarification there.

Damplifier Lite is our entry level mat which has a foil that is 50% thicker than the foil on fatmat. The foil is also a higher tempers so it is much stronger than the soft foil they use.

Our adhesive is a high grade butyl, is crosslinked, and is non toxic. It won't melt with heat, unlike asphalt.

That being said, Damplifier Lite is still an entry level product. Products like our Damplifier, Damplifier Pro, and Dons CLD Tiles listed in this thread would destroyu it in every way.

Compare those products to Fatmat, and really there is no reason to take a chance on an inferior product that was originally designed to go on a roof.

ANT

[smashedz28 110]

Appreciate the post, Damplifier would be something i would love to have, but ive blown my budget already as it is. sure its some of the best, just cant afford it at this time. as far as the fatmat lol.. glad i asked the question. Figured there was a catch.. and you just named off only a few thanks again.