hows this setup?

[dub26z 0]

Has anyone heard this setup or something similar to this?Amp saz3500 just one and 2 12 or 15 inch ssa xcon subwoofers?just wanting to know what you thought,i have the money now to purchase my equipment,thanks mr tax man lol..

[altoncustomtech 773]

Well, that's top notch equipment. If it's PROPERLY built and installed then it would be VERY hard to beat. Thing is, you'll have to add a lot more than just the amp and subs to run that equipment PROPERLY. For that amp you'll need a very stiff electrical system, BIG 3, HO alternator, at least three 100Ah batteries, all 1/0 AWG wire to start. You should also consider the components and amps it will take to keep up with the substage. Last but not least is a properly built and braced enclosure AND sound deadening. That's what you really need to use that system to it's full potential, at the very least the electrical to keep from sending the amp, subs or both to an early grave.

[dub26z 0]

Well, that's top notch equipment. If it's PROPERLY built and installed then it would be VERY hard to beat. Thing is, you'll have to add a lot more than just the amp and subs to run that equipment PROPERLY. For that amp you'll need a very stiff electrical system, BIG 3, HO alternator, at least three 100Ah batteries, all 1/0 AWG wire to start. You should also consider the components and amps it will take to keep up with the substage. Last but not least is a properly built and braced enclosure AND sound deadening. That's what you really need to use that system to it's full potential, at the very least the electrical to keep from sending the amp, subs or both to an early grave.

lol i know that i just meant the sound i know i need around another couple gs lol

[altoncustomtech 773]

Well the exact sound is completely install dependent. The vehicle, enclosure, placement, crossover and eq settings all play a part in the overall sound of the system. Like I said before, IF it is PROPERLY installed then those subs will sound very good and get plenty loud on that amp. Although, if you're really trying to ask how loud the setup will be there's other subs available to run on that power that are designed more for SPL than the XCON's and could possibly save you some money. On the same note, if you're really concerned about the SQ of them, there's nothing to worry about from what I've read the XCON's are some of the best overall sounding subwoofers available by many counts. Also, as far as the Sundown 3500, I doubt there's any way that it would give you any problems with either the SPL or SQ of that setup.

Edited February 6, 2010 by Alton

[Sir-Lancelot 216]

what do you drive?

Nice equipment, what else do you have planed?

[Beatdown337 0]

You really think it would take 3 100 ah batteries to run that amp. I have no idea so im jus asking out of curiousity

[altoncustomtech 773]

It's a fairly decent general rule to run 100Ah for each 1000watts of power. There's a few simple calculations that can be done to get a good read on exactly what you need to run a given number of watts of power and that rule usually gets right in the ball park.

For example, the SAZ series amps are all around 86% efficient at 4 ohms, something like 72% at 1 ohm I think I read on here somewhere. That means it takes about 4,860 watts of INPUT power to run the amp to its full potential at 1 ohm. (equation is Watts/efficiency or 3500/.72=4861)

The reason the input wattage is higher than the output wattage is because the amp has given losses that result in most of the heat the amp gives off.

Now if you use ohms law it shows that at an average 13.5v (allowing a little voltage drop) it will take a total of 360 amps of current to supply the amp with the power it needs to produce 3500 watts at 13.5v at 1 ohm nominal load. This is all with general and given numbers, everything changes with fluctuating voltages and impedence rise and other variables.

Sorry, forgot to add that a 100Ah battery adds about 1,245 watts of available power to the electrical system. So 3 equals 3,735 watts plus the output of a HO alt would be just about enough to run the amp correctly at full tilt. One should also remember that with music, the load is dynamic or always changing with the peaks and lulls so it will very seldom require the full amount of power at all times. Also, sorry to the OP for the thread jack but I figured it was good to explain the effects of loads on electrical requirements - back to the thread.

Edited February 6, 2010 by Alton