spl daily driver

[basshead123 0]

my question is which subwoofer would be better for me the ssa xcon or the sundown nightshade,my setup will be running off a saz 3500.Now i have heard the xcon`s there great woofers but i have never heard the nightshades.Its a dodgr charger daily driver.It will be 12 inch woofers unless i can squezze 15`s in my trunk..Thanks for any help.

[Duran 387]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

[basshead123 0]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

to get really loud.whats the two different purposes,i hope thats not a stupid question.Can you explain the two different sounds i can expect?

[Duran 387]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

to get really loud.whats the two different purposes,i hope thats not a stupid question.Can you explain the two different sounds i can expect?

The differences are how they will perform in a given environment. The XCON performs well in low tuned SQ oriented applications, where the Nightshade is more of a balls out loud woofer. I own Nightshades and they perform very well, I also want to try the XCONs though. Both have similar power ratings.

[basshead123 0]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

to get really loud.whats the two different purposes,i hope thats not a stupid question.Can you explain the two different sounds i can expect?

The differences are how they will perform in a given environment. The XCON performs well in low tuned SQ oriented applications, where the Nightshade is more of a balls out loud woofer. I own Nightshades and they perform very well, I also want to try the XCONs though. Both have similar power ratings.

well duran i listen to rap music,i want it to hit really hard not to sure what a low tune sq setup is.can you explain that.sorry for not understanding.

[Duran 387]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

to get really loud.whats the two different purposes,i hope thats not a stupid question.Can you explain the two different sounds i can expect?

The differences are how they will perform in a given environment. The XCON performs well in low tuned SQ oriented applications, where the Nightshade is more of a balls out loud woofer. I own Nightshades and they perform very well, I also want to try the XCONs though. Both have similar power ratings.

well duran i listen to rap music,i want it to hit really hard not to sure what a low tune sq setup is.can you explain that.sorry for not understanding.

Most rap bass lines are between 35-45 Hz. which is where the Nightshades perform very well. The XCONs like to be tuned between 27-33 Hz.

[basshead123 0]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

to get really loud.whats the two different purposes,i hope thats not a stupid question.Can you explain the two different sounds i can expect?

The differences are how they will perform in a given environment. The XCON performs well in low tuned SQ oriented applications, where the Nightshade is more of a balls out loud woofer. I own Nightshades and they perform very well, I also want to try the XCONs though. Both have similar power ratings.

well duran i listen to rap music,i want it to hit really hard not to sure what a low tune sq setup is.can you explain that.sorry for not understanding.

Most rap bass lines are between 35-45 Hz. which is where the Nightshades perform very well. The XCONs like to be tuned between 27-33 Hz.

what are you running on your nightshades?

[Duran 387]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

to get really loud.whats the two different purposes,i hope thats not a stupid question.Can you explain the two different sounds i can expect?

The differences are how they will perform in a given environment. The XCON performs well in low tuned SQ oriented applications, where the Nightshade is more of a balls out loud woofer. I own Nightshades and they perform very well, I also want to try the XCONs though. Both have similar power ratings.

well duran i listen to rap music,i want it to hit really hard not to sure what a low tune sq setup is.can you explain that.sorry for not understanding.

Most rap bass lines are between 35-45 Hz. which is where the Nightshades perform very well. The XCONs like to be tuned between 27-33 Hz.

what are you running on your nightshades?

A Sundown SAZ-3000D, they've taken it like champions

[basshead123 0]

Both woofers are designed for different purposes. What are your goals?

to get really loud.whats the two different purposes,i hope thats not a stupid question.Can you explain the two different sounds i can expect?

The differences are how they will perform in a given environment. The XCON performs well in low tuned SQ oriented applications, where the Nightshade is more of a balls out loud woofer. I own Nightshades and they perform very well, I also want to try the XCONs though. Both have similar power ratings.

well duran i listen to rap music,i want it to hit really hard not to sure what a low tune sq setup is.can you explain that.sorry for not understanding.

Most rap bass lines are between 35-45 Hz. which is where the Nightshades perform very well. The XCONs like to be tuned between 27-33 Hz.

what are you running on your nightshades?

A Sundown SAZ-3000D, they've taken it like champions

are you running 12 inch woofers or 15`s would there be a big difference between those two sizes in a trunk?

[Duran 387]

I have a 14" high trunkl, so they are 12".

[basshead123 0]

I have a 14" high trunkl, so they are 12".

My trunk is 19" inches and 36"wide you think 15" woofers could fit?would the sound be that much bigger between the two sizes?

[Duran 387]

I have a 14" high trunk, so they are 12".

My trunk is 19" inches and 36"wide you think 15" woofers could fit?would the sound be that much bigger between the two sizes?

How deep is it? Of how deep are you willing to go? Choose the size of woofer based on the enclosure, I chose 12" woofers because their enclosure was the largest that would fit in my trunk.

[basshead123 0]

I have a 14" high trunk, so they are 12".

My trunk is 19" inches and 36"wide you think 15" woofers could fit?would the sound be that much bigger between the two sizes?

How deep is it? Of how deep are you willing to go? Choose the size of woofer based on the enclosure, I chose 12" woofers because their enclosure was the largest that would fit in my trunk.

its 54" inches long

[Duran 387]

I have a 14" high trunk, so they are 12".

My trunk is 19" inches and 36"wide you think 15" woofers could fit?would the sound be that much bigger between the two sizes?

How deep is it? Of how deep are you willing to go? Choose the size of woofer based on the enclosure, I chose 12" woofers because their enclosure was the largest that would fit in my trunk.

its 54" inches long

You have about 18 ft.³ gross to work with, 15's would work well as they Nightshades slightly smaller enclosures, you wouldn't utilize your entire trunk leaving room for batteries and amplifiers.

[basshead123 0]

I have a 14" high trunk, so they are 12".

My trunk is 19" inches and 36"wide you think 15" woofers could fit?would the sound be that much bigger between the two sizes?

How deep is it? Of how deep are you willing to go? Choose the size of woofer based on the enclosure, I chose 12" woofers because their enclosure was the largest that would fit in my trunk.

its 54" inches long

You have about 18 ft.³ gross to work with, 15's would work well as they Nightshades slightly smaller enclosures, you wouldn't utilize your entire trunk leaving room for batteries and amplifiers.

thank you duran..

[Notorious97200 339]

Remember to leave enough room in your trunk for ampS, batteries,...

2 12's in a good box will sound much better than 2 15's in a box too small for them.

You will not loose by going with 12's. But be sure to make a box as big as it should.

I was not aware of that when I bought my 15" Icon, so when I changed for an Xcon (I wanted to keep my box), I stayed with a 15" woofer. And I still have no room for anything more in my trunk !!!

Are you sure you need so much ? 3500 watts ? Don't forget the deadening of your car with such an insane bass.

You need a new HO alternator, some batteries, big size wires,...

Is it your first system ? If it is the first one, it's really big !

[KU40 173]

I have a 14" high trunk, so they are 12".

My trunk is 19" inches and 36"wide you think 15" woofers could fit?would the sound be that much bigger between the two sizes?

How deep is it? Of how deep are you willing to go? Choose the size of woofer based on the enclosure, I chose 12" woofers because their enclosure was the largest that would fit in my trunk.

its 54" inches long

You have about 18 ft.³ gross to work with, 15's would work well as they Nightshades slightly smaller enclosures, you wouldn't utilize your entire trunk leaving room for batteries and amplifiers.

thank you duran..

Realize though that in a trunked car the problem most often lies not with the size of the trunk but with the size of the trunk opening. Unless you plan on building the box inside the trunk, you may be more limited on box size than you think. So if you can, create a box with the dimensions you're thinking about out of cardboard and see if it'll pass through the opening.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

The Xcon is not an SPL driver.