power

[pitbull239 2]

would a new saz-4500d be enough power for 2 15" nightshade d1's? if so how many spare batteries would u run?

[johnecon2001 82]

Enough for what?

A 4500D at full tilt would need at least a 200a alternator as well as 3-4 group 31 batteries.

[Mac N Cheese 90]

would a new saz-4500d be enough power for 2 15" nightshade d1's? if so how many spare batteries would u run?

I thought they sold out of the 4500Ds?, I would go with a 3500D but thats my .02. H/O alternator, big 3, 2 high performance batteries (Kinetik, Powermaster)

[jcarter1885 995]

would a new saz-4500d be enough power for 2 15" nightshade d1's? if so how many spare batteries would u run?

I thought they sold out of the 4500Ds?, I would go with a 3500D but thats my .02. H/O alternator, big 3, 2 high performance batteries (Kinetik, Powermaster)

x2, we told you this in another thread.

[BigCProductions99 21]

Define Enough....What Is Enough? Almost 5kw Is A Litle Too Much For The "Regular" Version 1's To Handle. v2's Will Laugh At It.

[Duran 387]

Define Enough....What Is Enough? Almost 5kw Is A Litle Too Much For The "Regular" Version 1's To Handle. v2's Will Laugh At It.

I think your stretching it a bit there. For the average user 1,500 watts is too much for any version of the Nightshade.

[pitbull239 2]

Define Enough....What Is Enough? Almost 5kw Is A Litle Too Much For The "Regular" Version 1's To Handle. v2's Will Laugh At It.

I think your stretching it a bit there. For the average user 1,500 watts is too much for any version of the Nightshade.

what would u suggest? I got a 200 amp alt. 2 spar batteries focal mid's and highs, and im trying to make these 15"s pound really hard. im sure ur a little more exprierenced than i am so be honest, what would u suggest to make these pound really hard?

[Duran 387]

Define Enough....What Is Enough? Almost 5kw Is A Litle Too Much For The "Regular" Version 1's To Handle. v2's Will Laugh At It.

I think your stretching it a bit there. For the average user 1,500 watts is too much for any version of the Nightshade.

what would u suggest? I got a 200 amp alt. 2 spar batteries focal mid's and highs, and im trying to make these 15"s pound really hard. im sure ur a little more exprierenced than i am so be honest, what would u suggest to make these pound really hard?

Normally I suggest people stick to rated power, because they will "pound really hard" at rated. Of course volume increases when power increases, so does heat though. If they are in the correct enclosure and you are smart about how hard you push them go ahead with the SAZ-4500D.

[pitbull239 2]

Define Enough....What Is Enough? Almost 5kw Is A Litle Too Much For The "Regular" Version 1's To Handle. v2's Will Laugh At It.

I think your stretching it a bit there. For the average user 1,500 watts is too much for any version of the Nightshade.

what would u suggest? I got a 200 amp alt. 2 spar batteries focal mid's and highs, and im trying to make these 15"s pound really hard. im sure ur a little more exprierenced than i am so be honest, what would u suggest to make these pound really hard?

Normally I suggest people stick to rated power, because they will "pound really hard" at rated. Of course volume increases when power increases, so does heat though. If they are in the correct enclosure and you are smart about how hard you push them go ahead with the SAZ-4500D.

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

[Duran 387]

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

A lot of it comes from experience, simply if you hear mechanical stress, or smell burning, other than the glue heating up for the first time that's a sign to turn it down.

If you correctly set your gains and filters that will make thermal failure less likely, and if you build the correct enclosure that will make mechanical failure less likely.

[pitbull239 2]

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

A lot of it comes from experience, simply if you hear mechanical stress, or smell burning, other than the glue heating up for the first time that's a sign to turn it down.

If you correctly set your gains and filters that will make thermal failure less likely, and if you build the correct enclosure that will make mechanical failure less likely.

i hear u on that one? what would be the perfect enclosure for those? size of port holes or does it matter?

[Duran 387]

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

A lot of it comes from experience, simply if you hear mechanical stress, or smell burning, other than the glue heating up for the first time that's a sign to turn it down.

If you correctly set your gains and filters that will make thermal failure less likely, and if you build the correct enclosure that will make mechanical failure less likely.

i hear u on that one? what would be the perfect enclosure for those? size of port holes or does it matter?

Yes port area matters. 3.0-3.5 Ft³ per Nightshade is recommended, a general rule is 14-16 In² per Ft³ of airspace.

[pitbull239 2]

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

A lot of it comes from experience, simply if you hear mechanical stress, or smell burning, other than the glue heating up for the first time that's a sign to turn it down.

If you correctly set your gains and filters that will make thermal failure less likely, and if you build the correct enclosure that will make mechanical failure less likely.

i hear u on that one? what would be the perfect enclosure for those? size of port holes or does it matter?

Yes port area matters. 3.0-3.5 Ft³ per Nightshade is recommended, a general rule is 14-16 In² per Ft³ of airspace.

thank you man, ill stop asking questions now.lol

[Duran 387]

thank you man, ill stop asking questions now.lol

No problem, I have the day off I enjoy doing this

[pitbull239 2]

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

A lot of it comes from experience, simply if you hear mechanical stress, or smell burning, other than the glue heating up for the first time that's a sign to turn it down.

If you correctly set your gains and filters that will make thermal failure less likely, and if you build the correct enclosure that will make mechanical failure less likely.

i hear u on that one? what would be the perfect enclosure for those? size of port holes or does it matter?

Yes port area matters. 3.0-3.5 Ft³ per Nightshade is recommended, a general rule is 14-16 In² per Ft³ of airspace.

thank you man, ill stop asking questions now.lol

hey whats up. got one more quick question for u when u get a chance. we were talking my 2 nightshade 15's and we were saying that if i was smart about it i could run a 4500d aslong as i set my gain and filters right. my question is how would u set the gain and filters so that you wouldnt cook the amp off or have any other mechanical problems, my 15's are 1-ohm so the amp would be 1-ohm? write back when you get a chance. thanks , kevin

[Duran 387]

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

A lot of it comes from experience, simply if you hear mechanical stress, or smell burning, other than the glue heating up for the first time that's a sign to turn it down.

If you correctly set your gains and filters that will make thermal failure less likely, and if you build the correct enclosure that will make mechanical failure less likely.

i hear u on that one? what would be the perfect enclosure for those? size of port holes or does it matter?

Yes port area matters. 3.0-3.5 Ft³ per Nightshade is recommended, a general rule is 14-16 In² per Ft³ of airspace.

thank you man, ill stop asking questions now.lol

hey whats up. got one more quick question for u when u get a chance. we were talking my 2 nightshade 15's and we were saying that if i was smart about it i could run a 4500d aslong as i set my gain and filters right. my question is how would u set the gain and filters so that you wouldnt cook the amp off or have any other mechanical problems, my 15's are 1-ohm so the amp would be 1-ohm? write back when you get a chance. thanks , kevin

You have two dual 1 ohm woofers, wire them to a combined 1 ohm load like this: http://www.the12volt.com/12voltimages/2_1ohm_dvc_1ohm.gif and your set. You will need a digital multimeter to set your gain correctly, you match the amplifier gain to the head unit gain. You set your subsonic filter about 3 Hz. below your enclosure tuning and your low pass filter a few Hz. where your midbass cuts off.

[BigCProductions99 21]

I Take It By Average User You Mean Dumbass, Lol.

[pitbull239 2]

i appreciate ur honesty. thank u, feel free to give me more insight on how to not push them too hard.

A lot of it comes from experience, simply if you hear mechanical stress, or smell burning, other than the glue heating up for the first time that's a sign to turn it down.

If you correctly set your gains and filters that will make thermal failure less likely, and if you build the correct enclosure that will make mechanical failure less likely.

i hear u on that one? what would be the perfect enclosure for those? size of port holes or does it matter?

Yes port area matters. 3.0-3.5 Ft³ per Nightshade is recommended, a general rule is 14-16 In² per Ft³ of airspace.

thank you man, ill stop asking questions now.lol

hey whats up. got one more quick question for u when u get a chance. we were talking my 2 nightshade 15's and we were saying that if i was smart about it i could run a 4500d aslong as i set my gain and filters right. my question is how would u set the gain and filters so that you wouldnt cook the amp off or have any other mechanical problems, my 15's are 1-ohm so the amp would be 1-ohm? write back when you get a chance. thanks , kevin

You have two dual 1 ohm woofers, wire them to a combined 1 ohm load like this: http://www.the12volt.com/12voltimages/2_1ohm_dvc_1ohm.gif and your set. You will need a digital multimeter to set your gain correctly, you match the amplifier gain to the head unit gain. You set your subsonic filter about 3 Hz. below your enclosure tuning and your low pass filter a few Hz. where your midbass cuts off.

thank u

[jcarter1885 995]

I Take It By Average User You Mean Dumbass, Lol.

[Duran 387]

You're welcome.

[Julian 641]

An oscilloscope would be the best thing to set your gains. You could talk to Jacob about getting different options on the Nighshades for them to handle more power.