bass boost

[Rozon420 0]

im not too sure what bass boost is or how to properly set it. some of the people i know say i shouldnt use while others say it helps...please help i know probably a noob question.

[Duran 387]

It's not recommended, ever.

[wof131s 10]

I wouldnt use it. I would just use the subsonic filter and my low pass filter to get my desired musical affect. But thats just me.

Edited December 22, 2009 by wof131s

[Lucky 76 5]

its a big no no and will clip your amp

[jcarter1885 995]

If you use it 9 times out of 10 you will damage something considering you dont understand how it works and when to back off plus it ruins the sound. Dont use if you want your equipment to last.

[Lucky 76 5]

If you use it 9 times out of 10 you will damage something considering you dont understand how it works and when to back off plus it ruins the sound. Dont use if you want your equipment to last.

Exactly! I was able to tune my friends with an osciloscope and it ended up working out but most of the time it just isnt worth it. Plus it fs up the sound.

[///M5 2,833]

The real question is why would you want to use it? If there is a reason, perhaps, but it MUST be accounted for in all other settings and that isn't trivial.

[corrie3232 8]

i've never had a problem with using my bass boost on any of my amps, and never have blow a speaker or sub, so i say it's up to the user

Edited December 22, 2009 by corrie3232

[Lucky 76 5]

i've never had a problem with using my bass boost on any of my amps, and never have blow a speaker or sub, so i say it's up to the user

How long have you had your amp?

[corrie3232 8]

i've never had a problem with using my bass boost on any of my amps, and never have blow a speaker or sub, so i say it's up to the user

How long have you had your amp?

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Crunch Gp3000d pro for 1 1/2 years and punch 500 for 5 yrs .

[Don Ganso 13]

So far as I can tell, bass boost makes notes around a certain frequency, (40Hz to 60Hz depending on amp), louder and so it sounds like notes higher and lower than that loose output. Because it also puts strain on your equipment, many manufacturers, Fi for example, do not recommend using it.

If this is incorrect, please correct me on this, but that's how I think it works...

Edited December 23, 2009 by Don Ganso

[sadistic 13]

i think it's in all the post 's and should be said like this you should not need it if you got the correct amount or put it this way more then the correct amount of power . if you feel you need it your running to little power and tuning up the bass boost this sends it in to cliping. wich if it';s cliping you need a bigger amp at that point most of all if it sounds like the subs are barely moving you need a bigger amp.

[///M5 2,833]

i've never had a problem with using my bass boost on any of my amps, and never have blow a speaker or sub, so i say it's up to the user

Obviously if you adjust your gains with it on, no big deal...but again the real question is WHY would you want to use it. Are you looking to have a bloated frequency response around the frequency that your bass boost works at? All it does is ruin your frequency response. The caveat of course is if you happen to have designed a crappy box that happens to need boost where the amplifier will give it, well then it may help with your inadequate install but don't come crying when you overexcurte your driver and wreck it because it is trying to do what it can't.

Of course those with ears will never blow a driver anyway since it is rather easy to hear strain in a driver. I am always amazed at how so many people have issues with this, but then again I am amazed at how shitty most peoples aftermarket stereos sound as well.

[Lucky 76 5]

i've never had a problem with using my bass boost on any of my amps, and never have blow a speaker or sub, so i say it's up to the user

Obviously if you adjust your gains with it on, no big deal...but again the real question is WHY would you want to use it. Are you looking to have a bloated frequency response around the frequency that your bass boost works at? All it does is ruin your frequency response. The caveat of course is if you happen to have designed a crappy box that happens to need boost where the amplifier will give it, well then it may help with your inadequate install but don't come crying when you overexcurte your driver and wreck it because it is trying to do what it can't.

Of course those with ears will never blow a driver anyway since it is rather easy to hear strain in a driver. I am always amazed at how so many people have issues with this, but then again I am amazed at how shitty most peoples aftermarket stereos sound as well.

well put

[jcarter1885 995]

Most people want to use it because when they turn the knob it makes there bass hit harder which isnt always a good thing. One thing I noticed is how I messed up more equipment by using the boost whether it was for subs, interior speakers or whatever. Just dont use boost and use the right amount of power from start and you will be fine with good sound, not just extra bass that sounds horrible on most notes.

[Rozon420 0]

Thats what i thought i have never used it in the past just had a couple of guys try to convince me otherwise. One question tho why have it on an amp if its so damaging anyways?

[KU40 173]

Are you looking to have a bloated frequency response around the frequency that your bass boost works at? All it does is ruin your frequency response. The caveat of course is if you happen to have designed a crappy box that happens to need boost where the amplifier will give it,

Really I don't see how it could ever be helpful since most amp manufacturers have the bass boost at 45 hz, and where do ported boxes generally have their FR hump at? 40-45 hz, or 10 hz above tuning. So why would anybody need to boost a frequency range that's already being boosted by the box? Not to mention the cabin gain that is higher as the frequency gets lower.

[KU40 173]

Thats what i thought i have never used it in the past just had a couple of guys try to convince me otherwise. One question tho why have it on an amp if its so damaging anyways?

Marketing.

[///M5 2,833]

Are you looking to have a bloated frequency response around the frequency that your bass boost works at? All it does is ruin your frequency response. The caveat of course is if you happen to have designed a crappy box that happens to need boost where the amplifier will give it,

Really I don't see how it could ever be helpful since most amp manufacturers have the bass boost at 45 hz, and where do ported boxes generally have their FR hump at? 40-45 hz, or 10 hz above tuning. So why would anybody need to boost a frequency range that's already being boosted by the box? Not to mention the cabin gain that is higher as the frequency gets lower.

You are right in that I shouldn't have even offered that up as a solution, it will be horribly misread here. I think I only added it as I didn't want someone to offer up the following scenario as an eff you M5.

The instance I was thinking of is when "captain show off" (known also as the guy with the Napoleon complex...tends to play his shit loud in public) stops in at his local mega store and picks up a 15" driver that is designed for a 2.5cuft sealed box. Being that the dumbass doesn't have space for a 2.5cuft box, he builds a 1cuft box leaving him with a subwoofer that is almost acting like a midbass. Of course this dipshit buys an amp that is 2x the rated power for the sub to further inflate his e-peni. In his case, adding 6dB of boost at 40Hz could actually hugely improve his midbass enclosure and turn it into a bass enclosure. He also will be okay in the excursion realm since this teeny box has greatly improved the mechanical power handling of the sub and might even be okay thermally playing music. Really obtuse case, but I have seen so many people buy subs and then realize they only have the space for half the box they need, in that case if the boost were the right amount it could be helpful. Of course these are the same idiots who will destroy their sub with the gain knob anyways and the bass boost will just make that happen way faster.

NOTE: I am definitely NOT recommending that someone try to do this on purpose as it screams fail all over it. A driver in the proper enclosure will ALWAYS smash this sort of bullshit. Take a look at what it does to the cone excursion, if you don't know how to calculate that then you shouldn't be designing enclosures anyway.

[///M5 2,833]

Thats what i thought i have never used it in the past just had a couple of guys try to convince me otherwise. One question tho why have it on an amp if its so damaging anyways?

Marketing.

Dirty evil, shitty marketing. But hey, its working otherwise you wouldn't have asked the question.

[KU40 173]

Are you looking to have a bloated frequency response around the frequency that your bass boost works at? All it does is ruin your frequency response. The caveat of course is if you happen to have designed a crappy box that happens to need boost where the amplifier will give it,

Really I don't see how it could ever be helpful since most amp manufacturers have the bass boost at 45 hz, and where do ported boxes generally have their FR hump at? 40-45 hz, or 10 hz above tuning. So why would anybody need to boost a frequency range that's already being boosted by the box? Not to mention the cabin gain that is higher as the frequency gets lower.

You are right in that I shouldn't have even offered that up as a solution, it will be horribly misread here. I think I only added it as I didn't want someone to offer up the following scenario as an eff you M5.

The instance I was thinking of is when "captain show off" (known also as the guy with the Napoleon complex...tends to play his shit loud in public) stops in at his local mega store and picks up a 15" driver that is designed for a 2.5cuft sealed box. Being that the dumbass doesn't have space for a 2.5cuft box, he builds a 1cuft box leaving him with a subwoofer that is almost acting like a midbass. Of course this dipshit buys an amp that is 2x the rated power for the sub to further inflate his e-peni. In his case, adding 6dB of boost at 40Hz could actually hugely improve his midbass enclosure and turn it into a bass enclosure. He also will be okay in the excursion realm since this teeny box has greatly improved the mechanical power handling of the sub and might even be okay thermally playing music. Really obtuse case, but I have seen so many people buy subs and then realize they only have the space for half the box they need, in that case if the boost were the right amount it could be helpful. Of course these are the same idiots who will destroy their sub with the gain knob anyways and the bass boost will just make that happen way faster.

NOTE: I am definitely NOT recommending that someone try to do this on purpose as it screams fail all over it. A driver in the proper enclosure will ALWAYS smash this sort of bullshit. Take a look at what it does to the cone excursion, if you don't know how to calculate that then you shouldn't be designing enclosures anyway.

I actually wasn't meaning to refute your post in any way, rather just add to it. But yeah I agree your example would be about the only one I could think of as well.