Running Active with a 100.4

[CrazyKenKid 64]

in my future install i want to go active with my 100.4. and i want to get a pair of ID horns. here is how i am going to set it up.

1.2khz and above to the horns

80hz-1.2khz to the midbasses

so will i be needing 2 sets of rca's or just 1??

b/c i will be using all 4 outputs right so i should have 2 sets of rca's??

sorry i haven't ran active before so i am a "active virgin" lol!! so i will have some question so ANY help here would be good.

my new install will be starting in the summer so i have plenty of time to think and plan to get everything right! my new install will be 2-15inch NS v1 and 2-saz2000 strapped with 2-nsb90's and 1-h/o along with the big 3 (the h/o and big 3 are already done)

if you need any more info PLEASE ask!

thanks in advance

Kenneth

[jcarter1885 995]

in my future install i want to go active with my 100.4. and i want to get a pair of ID horns. here is how i am going to set it up.

1.2khz and above to the horns

80hz-1.2khz to the midbasses

so will i be needing 2 sets of rca's or just 1??

b/c i will be using all 4 outputs right so i should have 2 sets of rca's??

sorry i haven't ran active before so i am a "active virgin" lol!! so i will have some question so ANY help here would be good.

my new install will be starting in the summer so i have plenty of time to think and plan to get everything right! my new install will be 2-15inch NS v1 and 2-saz2000 strapped with 2-nsb90's and 1-h/o along with the big 3 (the h/o and big 3 are already done)

if you need any more info PLEASE ask!

thanks in advance

Kenneth

Yeah run he Horns at 1,200hz at on the high pass filter and the midbass from 80-1,200 hz on the low pass filter. It depends if your gonna use some other eq device to contol the channels. If not then just get one pair of rca's and some y splitters and you will be fine.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

o ya Y splitters!! got ya!

ya i completely forgot about those and no i don't plan on running any other eq device! unless one show up for christmas from santa!!! lol! but i don't think one will be needed!

thanks again jay-cee

and merry christmas to you and yours!!!

[mbarber25 29]

thats weird.. i cant even see jay-cee's response...

Edited December 17, 2009 by mbarber25

[CrazyKenKid 64]

thats weird.. i cant even see jay-cee's response...

ya he posted his reply above where i said:

thanks

Kenneth

lol ya i had to look closely at it!

[CrazyKenKid 64]

in my future install i want to go active with my 100.4. and i want to get a pair of ID horns. here is how i am going to set it up.

1.2khz and above to the horns

80hz-1.2khz to the midbasses

so will i be needing 2 sets of rca's or just 1??

b/c i will be using all 4 outputs right so i should have 2 sets of rca's??

sorry i haven't ran active before so i am a "active virgin" lol!! so i will have some question so ANY help here would be good.

my new install will be starting in the summer so i have plenty of time to think and plan to get everything right! my new install will be 2-15inch NS v1 and 2-saz2000 strapped with 2-nsb90's and 1-h/o along with the big 3 (the h/o and big 3 are already done)

if you need any more info PLEASE ask!

Yeah run he Horns at 1,200hz at on the high pass filter and the midbass from 80-1,200 hz on the low pass filter. It depends if your gonna use some other eq device to contol the channels. If not then just get one pair of rca's and some y splitters and you will be fine.

thanks in advance

Kenneth

found it! lol!

Edited December 17, 2009 by CrazyKenKid

[///M5 2,833]

IMO you are going to want some eq to tame the response of those horns. Considering, I personally would use a proc that can do the crossovers and eq all in one instead of relying on your amps.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

IMO you are going to want some eq to tame the response of those horns. Considering, I personally would use a proc that can do the crossovers and eq all in one instead of relying on your amps.

so using a processor woudl be ideal to tame the horns you recommend? any name brand you can recommend? like alpine or pioneer, are the first 2 that come to my mind. or are you thinking about a 3sixty?

[jcarter1885 995]

My fault fellas, fixed*.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

i am looking at this site

http://www.crutchfield.com/g_168450/Sound-Processors.html?tp=84

and are these what you are referring to ////m5

if so can you recommend one you have used/heard of one in the present/past!?

thanks again!

[deathcloud 6]

Wow that RF 3sixty.2 looks crazy! Now that is some fine tuning. I would be so lost if I bought one of those. And for 600 bucks that better make your car sound amazing....

[SpeakerBoy 64]

RF 3sixty.2........

Edited December 17, 2009 by DeepSubBoy

[smullen 1]

Just curious, whats the purpose of going Active, vs passive???

Just because you can?

Is there more/Accurate controll?

More power to said drivers?

Something else I had not thought of....

[jcarter1885 995]

Just curious, whats the purpose of going Active, vs passive???

Just because you can?

Is there more/Accurate controll?

More power to said drivers?

Something else I had not thought of....

It has nothing to do with power going to drivers, they receive the same amount of power whether passive or active. If you are going to take the time and effort to learn how to do it and tune it to your liking than yes it can give you more control and accuracy. Basically your just breaking down the speakers into 2 or 3 different one's (tweeer, midrange and/or midbass). You can control what speaker gets what frequencies and you use your own crossovers to control them (such as: headunit, amp or external processor/equalizer) instead of using provided crossovers that come with component speakers. Thats just a brief description.

[BigCProductions99 21]

Cleaner Signal Due To Not Being Buffered In A Passive Crossover, Plus The Things jay-cee Said, Total User Control. Which Means Higher Chance Of Screwing Something Up But Greater Reward If Done Properly, As It Always Should.

[///M5 2,833]

It has something to do with power, but that is not the primary purpose.

Think of it this way. A passive crossover is someones compromise to make a set of components cheap enough for you to buy it. Nowhere near optimized for your install. Considering install is WAY, WAY, WAY more important than drivers just using the off the shelf crossover has already seriously compromised your install.

That being said, most first time active installs are failures anyways. It does take time and patience and the ability to hear and want to hear the subtleties in music.

I personally have Zero interest in the 360.2, they are known to be noisy and definitely limited in processing. Considering you are contemplating horns you are going to need flexibility which to me leaves you with either a couple different headunits or an Alpine H701, Pioneer P9, Audison BitOne, 12v modded Behringer 2496 or some other used units from the past.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

thanks again ////m5 for your reply! i will look into these and try to gain all the knowledge i can about a process and do all the planning i can to make sure i dont' screw it up and i will not end up as just another failure lol!

thanks again everyone who chimmed in !! Merry christmas to all! and a happy new years also!!

thanks so much guys!

[deathcloud 6]

Thats what sucks. I want to go active. But I am too scared to try it. I think I am very limited to what I can do because the deck I got isn't anything extravagant or expensive.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-7aeK1t95Ph8/p_113KDCX592/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X592.html

so does this mean I can't run active set up?

That I have to buy one of those decks listed?

Or does that mean I have to get an external crossover or something... god going active is so confusing. I'm just gunna stick to passive. haha. In theory it looks easy and not that bad when people talk about it but I just don't think I have all the necessary equipment. Or I guess patience. However I want to try it out and just run my rear speakers off of my deck.

But I think all I would have to do is in theory set the high pass filter at 80 hz and it would play on my mid 80hz and above. Then on the tweeter set it to 2khz and above?

And see if it sounds good?

[///M5 2,833]

That won't sound good and yes you'd need a different headunit or amps that can take care of the crossover for you. Just "picking" frequencies isn't enough to bother.