Nightshade v.2 Teaser Picture

[kkk4 3]

the cone and spider, are equal to v1?

[sundownz 197]

Yes, cone and spider are equal to v.1 model -- these parts are very good so I'm not changing them.

I will have double tinsel lead option for the v.2 Nightshade, though

[kkk4 3]

ok..good

are off topic, but I ask Z v.2 in the coil, spiders, and cone, what differ? coil that mounts? I have not seen the photo

[sundownz 197]

Z v.2 uses different coil, cone, and spiders... I'll have photos when they are ready.

[kkk4 3]

ok thanks

[porkchop 304]

will it be 12" , 15" , and 18" baskets?

[CrazyKenKid 64]

will it be 12" , 15" , and 18" baskets?

that sounds about right and i remember somethign about a 10 going around.. lol

[porkchop 304]

will it be 12" , 15" , and 18" baskets?

that sounds about right and i remember somethign about a 10 going around.. lol

a 10", that would be wild.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

I may consider special orders for 10s.

i found it! said by none other then jacob himself lol!!

on page 2!

[sundownz 197]

Here are some T/S from the 15" D1 that I built for myself with 3 Hard spiders (stock stiffness):

RE: 2.09 ohms (D1 series)

Fs: 32.16 Hz

Qes: 0.48

Qms: 12.04

Qts: 0.46

Le: 2.86 mH

Vas: 47.05 L

BL: 20.07 NA

Cms: 53.44 uM/N

Mms: 457 g

The above with a very short break-in period... Fs will drop a few more Hz when fully broken in. My FEA simulations show 27mm of linear excursion by 70% BL method + it has dual shorting rings to lower inductance related distortion. The at-rest Le is actually roughly equal to the v.1 Nightshade which had a much shorter coil.

[Kanaworm$ 292]

That is one bad ass looking subwoofer!

[Duran 387]

How did you get the Fs so much lower than the V1? That's really impressive because thats right where I like my music. Also, with a higher Vas than the V1 how much more volume will these need?

[sundownz 197]

Just looked @ the site and the specs on the 15" page are wrong... the v.1 Fs is actually around 37 Hz or so.

The 12" model T/S seems to be on all size pages... need to get that fixed.

[Masterwolf 0]

Talk about a big magnet! Can't wait for an update! I wanna see more!

[Julian 641]

What's the estimated price on these beasts? and ETA?

[Duran 387]

That is one STIFF suspension...wow!

The picture on page two makes the V2 coil look round, is it not a flatwound coil?

Will you be doing a presale on these? I want four 12's

[sundownz 197]

It is flat wire -- it is just not a very wide flat wire.

[The enD 467]

Will you be doing a presale on these?

This.

And at what price?

[jcarter1885 995]

He already stated they will be around the price of nightshade v.1's but a little more.

[The enD 467]

Presale is always cheaper, that is from what I have seen here. If there is going to be one, how much $ and when?

Edited January 6, 2010 by The enD

[jcarter1885 995]

Presale is always cheaper, that is from what I have seen here. If there is going to be one, how much $ and when?

Jacob definitely does not tell presale price before hand that will be something you will find out when he starts the pre-sale.

[sundownz 197]

Here are some T/S from the 15" D1 that I built for myself with 3 Hard spiders (stock stiffness):

RE: 2.09 ohms (D1 series)

Fs: 32.16 Hz

Qes: 0.48

Qms: 12.04

Qts: 0.46

Le: 2.86 mH

Vas: 47.05 L

BL: 20.07 NA

Cms: 53.44 uM/N

Mms: 457 g

The above with a very short break-in period.

After numerous 10,000 watt burps :

RE: 1.98 ohms (D1 series)

Fs: 31.78 Hz

Qes: 0.448

Qms: 12.20

Qts: 0.432

Le: 2.80 mH

Vas: 50.64 L

BL: 19.59 NA

Cms: 57.52 uM/N

Mms: 435 g

Spider seems quite stable in compliance after a tremendous beating -- of course we knew that from the v.1 Nightshade

[thebiggmann12 14]

insane...10,000 watts...awesome!

[bigrank916 72]

I think in the future my geo will have an all Sundown theme that includes two of the 18" NS V.2!

Keep up the good work Jake.

[thebiggmann12 14]

^that would be badass!