hifonics 1600 2,000

[vial 0]

ok so im running two CVX 12" @ 2ohm currently running them on a Kicker ZX 750.1 amp

I know i am underpowering these subs. I am hopeing to get a 1,600 or a 2,000 watt hifonics amp

Now my Question is are the hifonics amp's really good ? i hear good things about them

and will a 1600 watt push the two VCX's really well or would it be best to have the 2,000 watt amp.

Would i regret getting the 1600.

i like my current kicker amp But it pretty simple amp and most def not strong enough

Edited November 13, 2009 by vial

[ralstonballa2413 20]

The hifonics 2000 watt one would be what you should go with dont go down to the 1600 I do believe you will regret it. I had the hifonics 2000 watt powering 4 kicker cvrs and it did a good job. I got rid of the amp because i had quite a few problems with it but now im running a sundown 1500 and it sounds just as loud and I havent had a single problem with it yet. If youre on a tight budget then the hifonics will do fine but i know you can pick up a refurbished sundown 1500 for just a little more than the price of a new hifonics 2000 watt amp which will be a much more reliable amp.

[vial 0]

The hifonics 2000 watt one would be what you should go with dont go down to the 1600 I do believe you will regret it. I had the hifonics 2000 watt powering 4 kicker cvrs and it did a good job. I got rid of the amp because i had quite a few problems with it but now im running a sundown 1500 and it sounds just as loud and I havent had a single problem with it yet. If youre on a tight budget then the hifonics will do fine but i know you can pick up a refurbished sundown 1500 for just a little more than the price of a new hifonics 2000 watt amp which will be a much more reliable amp.

ahh thanks ya i think ill go with the 2,000.

So the Hifonics arnt really that good then ?

[ralstonballa2413 20]

Hifonics is ok. I use had a few problems with mine stopping working after a few months. I'd look into Audioque 2200 over the hifonics 2000 watt. Its even cheaper than hifonics if im not mistaken and I think its more reliable than Hifonics

[jcarter1885 995]

Hifonics is ok. I use had a few problems with mine stopping working after a few months. I'd look into Audioque 2200 over the hifonics 2000 watt. Its even cheaper than hifonics if im not mistaken and I think its more reliable than Hifonics

x2, Hifonics is a good budget amp just known to fail on you if you get a bad one and they dont have the best customer service. You will not regret getting a 1600 watt amp over a 2000 watt amp (the difference wont be noticeable), plus cvx's dont need 1000rms hence there 750 rms rating. You can look at a 2000watt amp just make sure you set your gains correctly (with DMM) and watch how you use the volume knob. An amp on sale that will push them nicely is a Sundown SAE-1200v2:

[vial 0]

Hifonics is ok. I use had a few problems with mine stopping working after a few months. I'd look into Audioque 2200 over the hifonics 2000 watt. Its even cheaper than hifonics if im not mistaken and I think its more reliable than Hifonics

x2, Hifonics is a good budget amp just known to fail on you if you get a bad one and they dont have the best customer service. You will not regret getting a 1600 watt amp over a 2000 watt amp (the difference wont be noticeable), plus cvx's dont need 1000rms hence there 750 rms rating. You can look at a 2000watt amp just make sure you set your gains correctly (with DMM) and watch how you use the volume knob. An amp on sale that will push them nicely is a Sundown SAE-1200v2:

oh, I thought the hifonics was a good manufacture... i just need something thats better then this zx 750.1 kicker amp.

my girl said she would get me a amp for xmas so im trying to figure it out intime.

[jcarter1885 995]

Well I wouldnt say a Hifonics amp is better than that kicker, but yeah they have models that will deliver more power than that kicker. What is your budget or her budget that she is wiling to spend on you and when do you/she plan on buying it?

[PHATBOi 38]

I think for what you are going to be using it for the BXi2010D would be a good fit. Hifonics has gotten a bad rap in the past because their amps haven't always lived up to the specs. Personally, I feel aside from the Audiopipe AP15001D and the AP30001D, the Hifonics Brutus line is the best budget amp around. Also, new 2010 line is supposed to have upgraded Class D circuitry and do damn close to if not rated power. You can get a BXi2010D here:

http://vminnovations.com/product_1272/HIFONICS_BRUTUS_BXi2010D_2000W_Mono_Amplifier.html

for $256.95 shipped. That is the lowest price I have found on them. Good luck.

PS: Might want to consider the AP15001D here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AUDIOPIPE-1500W-MONO-Car-Audio-Amplifier-Amp-Sub_W0QQitemZ220409768991QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item3351722c1f

for $159.00 shipped. Same company, they just have some different stock on egay for some reason. This amp would be a PERFECT fit for your setup, and has been proven to rated or damn near numerous times (amp tests done on various forums, just do a google search). Well, hope this helps and let us know what you decide.

[slim2fattycake 85]

AP also has the ap1800d amp too. Just make sure that the ads say 1800 rms at 1 ohm or you may be getting an amp that is not the ap1800d or 1500 rms at 1ohm for the ap1500d.

The ap 1500d is 150 shipped and the ap 1800d, I have seen for 190 shipped. I have an AP 30001D and a 1500D. I couldn't be happier with either. I have also had the bxi 1206d and the bxi 1606d from hifonics. They were good amps as well. Didn't mess up on me. I just had to sell them because of a different direction I was going.

And 200 watts is not going to be noticeable from 2000 to 1800 watts. Price is different though. However I have not seen much talk about the ap 1800 watt amp. The 1500 and the 3000 have been tested and showed great numbers.

[vial 0]

AP also has the ap1800d amp too. Just make sure that the ads say 1800 rms at 1 ohm or you may be getting an amp that is not the ap1800d or 1500 rms at 1ohm for the ap1500d.

The ap 1500d is 150 shipped and the ap 1800d, I have seen for 190 shipped. I have an AP 30001D and a 1500D. I couldn't be happier with either. I have also had the bxi 1206d and the bxi 1606d from hifonics. They were good amps as well. Didn't mess up on me. I just had to sell them because of a different direction I was going.

And 200 watts is not going to be noticeable from 2000 to 1800 watts. Price is different though. However I have not seen much talk about the ap 1800 watt amp. The 1500 and the 3000 have been tested and showed great numbers.

http://vminnovations.com/product_1272/HIFONICS_BRUTUS_BXi2010D_2000W_Mono_Amplifier.html

is probly the one ill get.

Im not sure when she will buy it i know i had asked here to get me one. Aswell as i pointed her to the Hifonics. I told her i wanted the Brutus Class D mono amp 2,000 watt.

My budgest is around 250-300 i am asumeing. I would like to think she is going to try and get me a few other things aswell for xmas unlike her i plan on getting her a SLR CANON Digital camera I doubt she has a clue to what ill be droping on her this Xmas like usual. But hey she dosent make as much as i do.

ya i am tired of this kicker amp i will probly Craigslist it for some cash to get some component speakers. I purchested it off Clist for like 140 bucks. Has no scratches on it and is in perfect working order.

[ralstonballa2413 20]

I read your first post completely wrong but now that I saw you were running a kicker amp I realize that you have it wired to a 2 ohm load. The Hifonics are rated at 1 ohm so the one that you are currently looking at is only 1100 rms at 2 ohm and im guessing its a little closer to 1000 rms. That kicker is probably doing closer to 800 rms so I dont know if thats really the amp that you want either. I have owned a kicker cvx and I believe they would sound a lot better with closer to 1500 rms for the pair and I think you will be much more happy with it too. You will actually hear a big difference which I dont think you will with that Hifonics Brutus 2010. Im not saying you can't run it with that amp but I'm pretty sure you are looking to give it more power than what you would be with that amp. I just dont think that it will give you the results you are really wanting.

[vial 0]

I read your first post completely wrong but now that I saw you were running a kicker amp I realize that you have it wired to a 2 ohm load. The Hifonics are rated at 1 ohm so the one that you are currently looking at is only 1100 rms at 2 ohm and im guessing its a little closer to 1000 rms. That kicker is probably doing closer to 800 rms so I dont know if thats really the amp that you want either. I have owned a kicker cvx and I believe they would sound a lot better with closer to 1500 rms for the pair and I think you will be much more happy with it too. You will actually hear a big difference which I dont think you will with that Hifonics Brutus 2010. Im not saying you can't run it with that amp but I'm pretty sure you are looking to give it more power than what you would be with that amp. I just dont think that it will give you the results you are really wanting.

ok so what would you sudgest i get ?

[vial 0]

I read your first post completely wrong but now that I saw you were running a kicker amp I realize that you have it wired to a 2 ohm load. The Hifonics are rated at 1 ohm so the one that you are currently looking at is only 1100 rms at 2 ohm and im guessing its a little closer to 1000 rms. That kicker is probably doing closer to 800 rms so I dont know if thats really the amp that you want either. I have owned a kicker cvx and I believe they would sound a lot better with closer to 1500 rms for the pair and I think you will be much more happy with it too. You will actually hear a big difference which I dont think you will with that Hifonics Brutus 2010. Im not saying you can't run it with that amp but I'm pretty sure you are looking to give it more power than what you would be with that amp. I just dont think that it will give you the results you are really wanting.

ok so what would you sudgest i get ?

for the 2,000 watt Brutus hifonics

Type: Mono Block

1-Ohm RMS Power 1x1600

2-Ohm RMS Power 1x1100

im kinda confused. This amp is rated for 2,000 watts but its not ratted for 2,000 watts even at 1 ohm ?

[jcarter1885 995]

Number one you have 2 subs that are Dual 2 ohm which will be wired for a final ohm load of 2 ohms:

So you need to find an amp in your budget range that will do 1500rms give or take some at 2 ohms, that simple.

[ralstonballa2413 20]

ok so what would you sudgest i get ?

You will have to look into amps that can do roughly 1500 rms @ 2 ohm. The only brand I know off the top of my head that rates @ 2 ohm loads is Kicker but you can look into other brands that have it rated @ 1 ohm loads and just see what they are rated @ 2 ohm. I just think that you are looking for much more of an incease in how loud your subs will be then what the Hifonics will give you.

for the 2,000 watt Brutus hifonics

Type: Mono Block

1-Ohm RMS Power 1x1600

2-Ohm RMS Power 1x1100

im kinda confused. This amp is rated for 2,000 watts but its not ratted for 2,000 watts even at 1 ohm ?

Hifonics overrates their products but im shocked that it is that low. A lot of companies put the max watts in the amps name so people think it can do more so that could maybe be the thing that hifonics was doing or it could be the rms with 16 volts instead of 14.4 possibly.

[jcarter1885 995]

ok so what would you sudgest i get ?

You will have to look into amps that can do roughly 1500 rms @ 2 ohm. The only brand I know off the top of my head that rates @ 2 ohm loads is Kicker but you can look into other brands that have it rated @ 1 ohm loads and just see what they are rated @ 2 ohm. I just think that you are looking for much more of an incease in how loud your subs will be then what the Hifonics will give you.

for the 2,000 watt Brutus hifonics

Type: Mono Block

1-Ohm RMS Power 1x1600

2-Ohm RMS Power 1x1100

im kinda confused. This amp is rated for 2,000 watts but its not ratted for 2,000 watts even at 1 ohm ?

Hifonics overrates their products but im shocked that it is that low. A lot of companies put the max watts in the amps name so people think it can do more so that could maybe be the thing that hifonics was doing or it could be the rms with 16 volts instead of 14.4 possibly.

What the hell are you talking about, every site that I look up an Hifonics amp is says it does the 2000 x 1 @ 1ohm for the Brutus 2010:

Hifonics Amp

Yeah man stop making this so hard, just find an amp that does what you want it do at 2 ohms and fits into your budget. If your stuck on Hifonics amps then check out the BXI-2010 or 2610, those will fit your needs.

You need to do your Big 3 Wiring if you havent done so and get you a secondary battery for you amp.

[bigrank916 72]

It doesnt matter which one you get. If you cant hold your voltage at 14.4 with a proper electrical then none of the Hifonics will produce their rated power. I have a BXI2006 on a 18" BTL and it is loud as fnuck. The amp does fine. Its my h/o alt that gives me the steady voltage to get the 2000rms out of it. Without it, you wont. So what your electrical like?

[vial 0]

ok so what would you sudgest i get ?

You will have to look into amps that can do roughly 1500 rms @ 2 ohm. The only brand I know off the top of my head that rates @ 2 ohm loads is Kicker but you can look into other brands that have it rated @ 1 ohm loads and just see what they are rated @ 2 ohm. I just think that you are looking for much more of an incease in how loud your subs will be then what the Hifonics will give you.

for the 2,000 watt Brutus hifonics

Type: Mono Block

1-Ohm RMS Power 1x1600

2-Ohm RMS Power 1x1100

im kinda confused. This amp is rated for 2,000 watts but its not ratted for 2,000 watts even at 1 ohm ?

Hifonics overrates their products but im shocked that it is that low. A lot of companies put the max watts in the amps name so people think it can do more so that could maybe be the thing that hifonics was doing or it could be the rms with 16 volts instead of 14.4 possibly.

What the hell are you talking about, every site that I look up an Hifonics amp is says it does the 2000 x 1 @ 1ohm for the Brutus 2010:

Hifonics Amp

Yeah man stop making this so hard, just find an amp that does what you want it do at 2 ohms and fits into your budget. If your stuck on Hifonics amps then check out the BXI-2010 or 2610, those will fit your needs.

You need to do your Big 3 Wiring if you havent done so and get you a secondary battery for you amp.

ARG sorry... but at this link http://vminnovations.com/product_1272/HIFONICS_BRUTUS_BXi2010D_2000W_Mono_Amplifier.html

they rate the amp at those ratings..

Yes i will do my big 3 upgrade here in the spring I dont see a real reason to do so yet As winter is coming and i wont be bumping when their is ice on my Truck.

Sorry for making it diffacult Im just trying to figure it out so I know exactly what i am doing so i can do it right the 2nd time and not Shoot for a 3rd.

[jcarter1885 995]

Acutally it is just a typo because if you look at the BXI-2610 on that website it has the right numbers, they just gave the BXI-2010 the same ratings and specs as the BXI-1610 (somebody on there website messed up and needs to fix that).

Your cool I just didnt know what you were talking about when you were talking about that BXI-2010 amp thats all, yeah keep asking the questions so we can help you. If you feel like you dont want to post a topic or question you can always pm and I will be glad to help you buddy.

[vial 0]

Acutally it is just a typo because if you look at the BXI-2610 on that website it has the right numbers, they just gave the BXI-2010 the same ratings and specs as the BXI-1610 (somebody on there website messed up and needs to fix that).

Your cool I just didnt know what you were talking about when you were talking about that BXI-2010 amp thats all, yeah keep asking the questions so we can help you. If you feel like you dont want to post a topic or question you can always pm and I will be glad to help you buddy.

k lol thanks im still a newb ill freely admit it.

i just dont think im getting what i paid for out of my CVX's using the zx750.1 amp.

[jcarter1885 995]

Well I just got finish selling three 12" CVXs and they were only seeing 700-800rms between the three of them but sounded great (I do understand where you are coming from though).

Yeah I was there not to long ago, eventually you wont be a noob for long especially with the help of this site.

[vial 0]

Well I just got finish selling three 12" CVXs and they were only seeing 700-800rms between the three of them but sounded great (I do understand where you are coming from though).

Yeah I was there not to long ago, eventually you wont be a noob for long especially with the help of this site.

Thats why im here

ive been a forum junkie since i was 13. Altho it hasn't improved my spelling and punctuation like i wish it had.

Ive been a member on many 0day rls groups. Aswell as many *nix user forums. This is the best car audio helpdesk/forums ive seen and read, so i decided to join.

[mr.tigger 1]

i have nothing a agains hifonics i use to hav a bxi2000 in it work fine till i got a deal on a 1500 sundown an u could here the different

i would try get a 1500 sundown

Edited November 19, 2009 by mr.tigger

[slim2fattycake 85]

ok so what would you sudgest i get ?

You will have to look into amps that can do roughly 1500 rms @ 2 ohm. The only brand I know off the top of my head that rates @ 2 ohm loads is Kicker but you can look into other brands that have it rated @ 1 ohm loads and just see what they are rated @ 2 ohm. I just think that you are looking for much more of an incease in how loud your subs will be then what the Hifonics will give you.

for the 2,000 watt Brutus hifonics

Type: Mono Block

1-Ohm RMS Power 1x1600

2-Ohm RMS Power 1x1100

im kinda confused. This amp is rated for 2,000 watts but its not ratted for 2,000 watts even at 1 ohm ?

Hifonics overrates their products but im shocked that it is that low. A lot of companies put the max watts in the amps name so people think it can do more so that could maybe be the thing that hifonics was doing or it could be the rms with 16 volts instead of 14.4 possibly.

What the hell are you talking about, every site that I look up an Hifonics amp is says it does the 2000 x 1 @ 1ohm for the Brutus 2010:

Hifonics Amp

Yeah man stop making this so hard, just find an amp that does what you want it do at 2 ohms and fits into your budget. If your stuck on Hifonics amps then check out the BXI-2010 or 2610, those will fit your needs.

You need to do your Big 3 Wiring if you havent done so and get you a secondary battery for you amp.

ARG sorry... but at this link http://vminnovations.com/product_1272/HIFONICS_BRUTUS_BXi2010D_2000W_Mono_Amplifier.html

they rate the amp at those ratings..

Yes i will do my big 3 upgrade here in the spring I dont see a real reason to do so yet As winter is coming and i wont be bumping when their is ice on my Truck.

Sorry for making it diffacult Im just trying to figure it out so I know exactly what i am doing so i can do it right the 2nd time and not Shoot for a 3rd.

call or email the company about the ad. They will let you know for sure. Don't be afraid of this company because of one misprint. I have bought from them many times from cell phones to amps. ap1500d. I did however, buy through their ebay store but it would be stupid to have weaker customer service on their main site. With you needing a 2 ohm load, it may be better to look at some kicker or rockford amps on ebay or something because most of them will output max RMS power at 2 ohms instead of 1 ohm, if 2 ohms is what you need. I skipped through some posts .

[jcarter1885 995]

Yeah he needs a 2 ohm stable amp or one that puts out the power he needs at 2 ohms since he has 2-Dual 2 ohm Kicker CVX's.

OP now that I thought about it why dont you just sell your 750.1 and get a 1500.1 from Kicker.