Nightshade or SXX?

[Steveman09 1]

So I'm getting a Sundown SAZ-1500D AMP from a member on here, when I stumbled upon a Sundown Nightshade 15" D2 for a really good deal, I know nothing about the sub.

The car will be a daily driver and I was originally going with a RE Audio SXX 15" D2, so is the sundown a better sub?

Pro's and Con's of both?

[jcarter1885 995]

So I'm getting a Sundown SAZ-1500D AMP from a member on here, when I stumbled upon a Sundown Nightshade 15" D2 for a really good deal, I know nothing about the sub.

The car will be a daily driver and I was originally going with a RE Audio SXX 15" D2, so is the sundown a better sub?

Pro's and Con's of both?

What are your goals?

[mjmarovi 8]

the Nightshade, it will handle much more power, the SXX will most likely not take the power of the 1500d. the 1500d will be closer to a 2000 watt amplifier, the Nightshade will handle that with ease, the SXX on the other hand, would not recommend doubling its thermal handling. The nightshade can put up impressive numbers, handle huge amounts of power, and also are quite musical for a daily driver. Sundown NS FTW on this one easily!

[Steveman09 1]

the Nightshade, it will handle much more power, the SXX will most likely not take the power of the 1500d. the 1500d will be closer to a 2000 watt amplifier, the Nightshade will handle that with ease, the SXX on the other hand, would not recommend doubling its thermal handling. The nightshade can put up impressive numbers, handle huge amounts of power, and also are quite musical for a daily driver. Sundown NS FTW on this one easily!

Yeah I hear you on the power handling, my goal is a daily driven system that is rock solid reliable with good SQ but also impressive SPL.

I don't know if there is such a thing but im going to try and achieve it.

My only concern is the Nightshade will have to be used and its no longer in production :-/

I might try and see if I can afford a RE 15 MX that could handle the power, but also I could just get a RE 15 SXX D4 and run it at 2ohms to be closer to its power handling?

[mjmarovi 8]

why RE? why not a Fi BL? RE is expensive, and I would much rather buy a product from Scott rather than the old company he worked with. an SSA Xcon would work quite well for you too. fully loaded BL, or an SSA Xcon would be my recommendation.

[Notorious97200 339]

I've never heard the NS, but I know they perform well in spl competitions.

Musical sub + impressive spl + 1500 watts available = Xcon !!!

Xcons are so loud, when we make demos of just a 15" xcon, the first thing people say is "get out, how can you stay in the car with so much bass?!!"

These people never say that when listening to the spl installs playing around!!!!!

[Steveman09 1]

I've never heard the NS, but I know they perform well in spl competitions.

Musical sub + impressive spl + 1500 watts available = Xcon !!!

Xcons are so loud, when we make demos of just a 15" xcon, the first thing people say is "get out, how can you stay in the car with so much bass?!!"

These people never say that when listening to the spl installs playing around!!!!!

Ok so if I go with a SSA XCON 15 D2 how is the customer support? Does SSA stand behind the sub?

I was just reading about it in the SSA Store and wholy shit 1750rms and 31mm of excursion!!! Wow thats impressive.

What do you guys think about a Ported to 35hz or Sealed enclosure....

I love how tight sealed is but im not sure about how this sub handles it, and for ""SQL"" I bet Sealed will sound nicer.

[jcarter1885 995]

I've never heard the NS, but I know they perform well in spl competitions.

Musical sub + impressive spl + 1500 watts available = Xcon !!!

Xcons are so loud, when we make demos of just a 15" xcon, the first thing people say is "get out, how can you stay in the car with so much bass?!!"

These people never say that when listening to the spl installs playing around!!!!!

Ok so if I go with a SSA XCON 15 D2 how is the customer support? Does SSA stand behind the sub?

I was just reading about it in the SSA Store and wholy shit 1750rms and 31mm of excursion!!! Wow thats impressive.

What do you guys think about a Ported to 35hz or Sealed enclosure....

I love how tight sealed is but im not sure about how this sub handles it, and for "SQL" I bet Sealed will sound nicer.

Im pretty sure they do considering they have a 24/7 forum for support, help and any other technical services that are needed to their customers and non-customers.

[RobClay 20]

Customer service is great.. Through email and forum both..

[Steveman09 1]

Customer service is great.. Through email and forum both..

I've been looking at some youtube videos of the XCON 15's wow impressive, ive never seen a 15 hit notes like that before!

I think im sold on it.

Hearing the support is good does it for me, anyone else care to chime in before I spend the $400?

[mjmarovi 8]

It is built by Fi...nuff said

[Steveman09 1]

It is built by Fi...nuff said

ok SSA XCON 15' D2 Sub FTW!

Ordered.

I Can't wait!

[jcarter1885 995]

I cant wait for a build log with lots of pictures or videos, FTW! What else will be going in the car besides the Xcon?

[Steveman09 1]

I cant wait for a build log with lots of pictures or videos, FTW! What else will be going in the car besides the Xcon?

Here's the setup :

Pioneer AVIC-N5 Headunit

6.5' Coaxial Kappa Fronts

6x9' Coaxial Kappa Rears

USAMPS XT1600.4v2 4-channel Amp

Sundown SAZ-1500D Mono Amp

SSA XCON 15' D2 Subwoofer

Custom Spare Tire Enclosure tuned to 35hz

Exide Orbital XCD Dry Cell Battery Up Front

Kenetik HC2000 Battery in Trunk

IRAGGI 220amp Alternator

The Big 3 Upgrade

Dynamat Rear Deck and Trunk

I will post pics in a new thread soon.

[Steveman09 1]

I cant wait for a build log with lots of pictures or videos, FTW! What else will be going in the car besides the Xcon?

Here's the official build log :

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

It is built by Fi...nuff said

ok SSA XCON 15' D2 Sub FTW!

Ordered.

I Can't wait!

Did you place your order through the SSA store? I ask as there are no 15" Xcon orders for the last 9 days. And that one went to California.

[jcarter1885 995]

Naw I dont think he ordered yet because his build log said he was going to get it today.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Actually, it just showed up a moment ago.

[mjmarovi 8]

lol well congrats to OP for a great sub coming their way!

[Steveman09 1]

Actually, it just showed up a moment ago.

LOL that is too funny!

Make her good for me will ya

[rmzsuzuki89 61]

It is built by Fi...nuff said

Wait what? Really, I never knew that.