Hifonics OLM Subs ?

[crownvic02 0]

Has anybody had any experience with the Hifonics OLM1612. I looking at them seen they recommend a high tunning frequency 40hz not really high but high for my taste, but has anybody had any experience with them at lower tunning 30-32hz..... and how did they perform on music, i listen to alot of slowed down music (chopped screwed) so really concerned on well they play low

Edited October 28, 2009 by crownvic02

[mjmarovi 8]

haven't used them personally, but as far as I know, those woofers would not be a good choice for you. do you already have an amp? and what price range we lookin at here?? I get the slowed down, so you want something to bang the lows and that's basically it. What size woofers were you looking for? and in what vehicle/box config? I know a lot of questions, but you didn't really give much information.

[crownvic02 0]

haven't used them personally, but as far as I know, those woofers would not be a good choice for you. do you already have an amp? and what price range we lookin at here?? I get the slowed down, so you want something to bang the lows and that's basically it. What size woofers were you looking for? and in what vehicle/box config? I know a lot of questions, but you didn't really give much information.

oh ok sorry, amp rd d9, price range not really trying to spend over a thousand, want to run 4 12s ported wired to a 1ohm load, and yeah mainly excel in the lows but still offer a good response curve when going into higher frequencies, and it's all going into a 96 ss impala, was looking at some fi qs but was told they probably wouldn't be able to handle the power, since it's going to be a everyday full tilt setup for the most part

Edited October 28, 2009 by crownvic02

[mjmarovi 8]

actually, Q's with the BP power option would probably be perfect. they are sound quality woofers meant to handle a pretty hefty amount of power. right now they are coming with the BP power option for free, so that keeps you under the 1k mark. I have run 3kw to a pair of 15's daily no problem. and I listen to a lot of rap, especially the stuff that hits low. with the BP power option that raises the rms from 1k a sub to ~1300 so that amp would be a perfect match.

I think they would be some of the best woofers out there for your application, especially in that price range. or the ascendant audio Havocs, they are 1250 rms designed by Scott Atwell as well. (owner and designer for Fi car audio.)

what kind of electrical upgrades you have for that amp?

oh and if you wanted to spend a little extra money, the BL series probably would be a nice little upgrade with some options like the cooling.

[crownvic02 0]

actually, Q's with the BP power option would probably be perfect. they are sound quality woofers meant to handle a pretty hefty amount of power. right now they are coming with the BP power option for free, so that keeps you under the 1k mark. I have run 3kw to a pair of 15's daily no problem. and I listen to a lot of rap, especially the stuff that hits low. with the BP power option that raises the rms from 1k a sub to ~1300 so that amp would be a perfect match.

I think they would be some of the best woofers out there for your application, especially in that price range. or the ascendant audio Havocs, they are 1250 rms designed by Scott Atwell as well. (owner and designer for Fi car audio.)

what kind of electrical upgrades you have for that amp?

oh and if you wanted to spend a little extra money, the BL series probably would be a nice little upgrade with some options like the cooling.

right now a mechman 250, and 3 deka g31s and 2 runs of 0/1 knukonceptz ultra flek cable probably gonna be adding a 3rd run, going to tampa within the next 2 weeks to pick up a 4th deka g31, i have a optima g34 yellow top up front, but i wana replace it with a g34 deka, oh and thanks for reminding me of aa i had completely for got about them, thanks i have been catching headaches trying to decide on some subs that would fit my needs, and would work with the amp, last subs i had were fi btls and i loved them best subs i have owned so far....... but thanks, and i don't know how true it is, just here say, but i was told bl get loud but lows are not their strong points, i can't really be the judge since i have only heard one bl before and the song it was playing wasn't to low, but for it to be 1 12 in the trunk of lincoln town car on 1200 watts it was doing a nice lil dance lol, it was pretty loud

Edited October 29, 2009 by crownvic02

[Kanaworm$ 292]

A couple more options for you to think about are from SSA! The ICON and XCON are low end monsters! Worth a look!

[KU40 173]

Many manufacturers recommend tuning that high. Most kids that buy stuff just want SPL, so they recommend tuning frequencies that will help them with that. Even if it makes the sub sound terribly peaky and with little lowend extension.

[///M5 2,833]

Why even look at a poopfonics product? There are much better options out there I am sure. (have to assume as I haven't seen the woofers yet, but I bet performance for $ it would be easy to beat them)

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Let's start from scratch and find the right woofer for you. Did you already buy that amp?

[mjmarovi 8]

oh ok sorry, amp rd d9, price range not really trying to spend over a thousand, want to run 4 12s ported wired to a 1ohm load, and yeah mainly excel in the lows but still offer a good response curve when going into higher frequencies, and it's all going into a 96 ss impala, was looking at some fi qs but was told they probably wouldn't be able to handle the power, since it's going to be a everyday full tilt setup for the most part

here is what he wants, don't really see why we need to start over...

the BL actually handles the lows quite well, what BTL's did you have? you could always go with two 15" BTL's, although you would have more cone area with 4 12's. but any sub from Fi I would not worry about handling the lows, I have seen every line bang hard on the lowest of lows!

the SSA woofers are nice, but then now are going up in price, and may not match the quality of the Fi woofers. the Icon's are a thousand watt sub, and you can't have them custom built to take more like you can the Q or BL, and at 275 a piece your over the 1k mark, especially with the Xcon's.

Like I said, for that price range Fi really is your best choice. Even with willingness to spend more, i would still recommend Fi, or maybe then Treo if you wanted to really drop some cash. Sundown Audio makes some great woofers, but the SA series probably won't handle that amp, and the Nightshades are high power beasts, 4 of them could take 8-10 k watts, and would cost you double your budget.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

oh ok sorry, amp rd d9, price range not really trying to spend over a thousand, want to run 4 12s ported wired to a 1ohm load, and yeah mainly excel in the lows but still offer a good response curve when going into higher frequencies, and it's all going into a 96 ss impala, was looking at some fi qs but was told they probably wouldn't be able to handle the power, since it's going to be a everyday full tilt setup for the most part

here is what he wants, don't really see why we need to start over...

the BL actually handles the lows quite well, what BTL's did you have? you could always go with two 15" BTL's, although you would have more cone area with 4 12's. but any sub from Fi I would not worry about handling the lows, I have seen every line bang hard on the lowest of lows!

the SSA woofers are nice, but then now are going up in price, and may not match the quality of the Fi woofers. the Icon's are a thousand watt sub, and you can't have them custom built to take more like you can the Q or BL, and at 275 a piece your over the 1k mark, especially with the Xcon's.

Like I said, for that price range Fi really is your best choice. Even with willingness to spend more, i would still recommend Fi, or maybe then Treo if you wanted to really drop some cash. Sundown Audio makes some great woofers, but the SA series probably won't handle that amp, and the Nightshades are high power beasts, 4 of them could take 8-10 k watts, and would cost you double your budget.

I find that a funny statement as they are built in the same place and SSA drivers have never once gone up in price.

But I mentioned starting over because he is asking about a sub woofer few people know about and is coming from a less then average quality brand, that is suggesting high tuning. Who know's, the SSD or BL might be the best choice for him, but we have no idea as to what his goals are other then perceived "low's".

[crownvic02 0]

Basically that is it Excel in lows but still offer good upper response curve, the system is basically going to be a street beater, no competitions just longs periods of playing time at full tilt, I don't want to run 2 btls again (I had the triple stack mag 15s), really want to switch it up to 4 12s but the recommendation of the fi q and aa havoc I think were excellent to what I want, havnt read much info on the havoc, but I have seen review were people say the q offer great responses low n still holds them strong when going into higher frequencies 40s n above while still offering great output

[mjmarovi 8]

I find that a funny statement as they are built in the same place and SSA drivers have never once gone up in price.

But I mentioned starting over because he is asking about a sub woofer few people know about and is coming from a less then average quality brand, that is suggesting high tuning. Who know's, the SSD or BL might be the best choice for him, but we have no idea as to what his goals are other then perceived "low's".

they are built in the same place, but as I'm understood not necessarily same process, and design. remember, Fi is selling direct, for other companies they must be able to build the woofer cheap enough for merchant company to re-sell for a profit. I think SSA makes a great product, but I don't see why you would spend more money on a product when you can buy a custom sub for less directly from the person who builds and designs their woofer. I shouldn't say not same quality your right, but in this particular case, how can a more expensive sub with less power handling be a good recommendation? everyone has their favorite company, I mean I am on team sundown and plan on personally running a thousand watts daily to some SA-12's, but they are really not built for that so why would I recommend that to compare with 1200 watts drivers just cause I like the company?

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I find that a funny statement as they are built in the same place and SSA drivers have never once gone up in price.

But I mentioned starting over because he is asking about a sub woofer few people know about and is coming from a less then average quality brand, that is suggesting high tuning. Who know's, the SSD or BL might be the best choice for him, but we have no idea as to what his goals are other then perceived "low's".

they are built in the same place, but as I'm understood not necessarily same process, and design. remember, Fi is selling direct, for other companies they must be able to build the woofer cheap enough for merchant company to re-sell for a profit. I think SSA makes a great product, but I don't see why you would spend more money on a product when you can buy a custom sub for less directly from the person who builds and designs their woofer. I shouldn't say not same quality your right, but in this particular case, how can a more expensive sub with less power handling be a good recommendation? .......

Since when does power handling only, dictate price? And how can you compare two different drivers based on power handling alone? And I am not clear as to which driver you are saying is more expensive with less power handling?

[Spencerk 4]

my vote FI Q's..... falls into your price and goals/interests

[mjmarovi 8]

Fi Q with BP power handling- $244 RMS- 1000 watts plus BP power ~1300 RMS

SSA Icon- $275 1000 RMS

multiply RMS by four, so you have 4000 watts of power handling versus ~5200. since it is one amp on four woofers.

price difference

Q's- $976

Icons- $1100

and I never said power handling dictates price. take the Xcon for example, so many people run 2000 watt single sub setups, and run woofers that cost twice as much as the Xcon and don't perform nearly as well.

i am also not comparing two woofers solely on power handling, but price and power handling in this case are the two major differences between the Q and the Icon, remember comparing Q with BP power, not Q without.

[crownvic02 0]

I just want to say thanks mj n everybody elses input just help put an ease to my mind, now I can get started on everything thanks

[mjmarovi 8]

your welcome man, that's why we're here

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

i am also not comparing two woofers solely on power handling, but price and power handling in this case are the two major differences between the Q and the Icon, remember comparing Q with BP power, not Q without.

Thank you for clearing that up.

[mjmarovi 8]

i am also not comparing two woofers solely on power handling, but price and power handling in this case are the two major differences between the Q and the Icon, remember comparing Q with BP power, not Q without.

Thank you for clearing that up.

no problem, and I if you didn't gather... I think Xcons are amazing

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

i am also not comparing two woofers solely on power handling, but price and power handling in this case are the two major differences between the Q and the Icon, remember comparing Q with BP power, not Q without.

Thank you for clearing that up.

no problem, and I if you didn't gather... I think Xcons are amazing

Thank you, I was just confused as to what you were getting at earlier, might have misunderstood your wording.

[KU40 173]

I find that a funny statement as they are built in the same place and SSA drivers have never once gone up in price.

But I mentioned starting over because he is asking about a sub woofer few people know about and is coming from a less then average quality brand, that is suggesting high tuning. Who know's, the SSD or BL might be the best choice for him, but we have no idea as to what his goals are other then perceived "low's".

they are built in the same place, but as I'm understood not necessarily same process, and design. remember, Fi is selling direct, for other companies they must be able to build the woofer cheap enough for merchant company to re-sell for a profit. I think SSA makes a great product, but I don't see why you would spend more money on a product when you can buy a custom sub for less directly from the person who builds and designs their woofer. I shouldn't say not same quality your right, but in this particular case, how can a more expensive sub with less power handling be a good recommendation? everyone has their favorite company, I mean I am on team sundown and plan on personally running a thousand watts daily to some SA-12's, but they are really not built for that so why would I recommend that to compare with 1200 watts drivers just cause I like the company?

You do realize you're talking to an owner of SSA, right?

[mjmarovi 8]

I had an idea who he was, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't speak my reasoning. I feel I gave good information to the OP, and already said how "quality" was a poor choice of wording, and also clarified which particular drivers I am comparing.

[dbjunior 0]

i understand you wanted to find him the right sub but there is so much more to it than the sub. how was the old system setup size of box tuning size subs box orientation and what about it did not make you happy

[crownvic02 0]

i understand you wanted to find him the right sub but there is so much more to it than the sub. how was the old system setup size of box tuning size subs box orientation and what about it did not make you happy

nothing i loved the btls only problem i had was the box design (pwkdesigns) i think it was either to much port area or something somebody was telling me so the subs power handling capabilities was cut down so they would get a lil to warm after a lil while at full tilt, but other than that nothing at all sounded great and the lows were excellent, just been wanting to go 4 12s ported for a while now and since i have a new car to play with decided why not this time around