Mono block or bridge?

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

Alright guys..i have an Eclipse TI series 12" running in my truck. Right now i have a kenwood kac7202 with 4gauge wiring and a 1F capacitor. The amp doesnt put out enough power..so Should i buy a mono block amp or 2 channel and bridge it? And what amps do you recoment for this sub? my budget is not huge so take it easy on me lol.. Any help it all getting more sound outa this thing will be aprreciated!

Edited October 28, 2009 by tegeler_eclipse12

[tequila 2]

Alright guys..i have an Eclipse TI series 12" running in my truck. Right now i have a kenwood kac7202 with 4gauge wiring and a 1F capacitor. The amp doesnt put out enough power..so Should i buy a mono block amp or 2 channel and bridge it? And what amps do you recoment for this sub? my budget is not huge so take it easy on me lol.. Any help it all getting more sound outa this thing will be aprreciated!

Buy a monoblock. Bridging a 2chan to 1chan causes a certain distortion.

Monoblocks have better powersupplies that can take more beatin. doesnt get as hot, etc.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

First of all let me welcome you to the SSA forums! in this forum you will find some of the smartest ppl of our time in caraudio! i jsut takes them some time to chime in some days lol!! o and don't forget to give the noob posting guide a quike read through! doing this you will avoid any admin gettting pissed at you!

other then that WELCOME!

now onto the issue at hand! mono or multchannel amp!

what is your budget and car audio goals? do you plan to upgrade down the road? do you want to impress a hot chick by showing her your xmax of your sub? lol!!

i would say go mono channel amp for ANY and ALL subs but if you aer on a tight budget go with a multi channel amP! also what is the ciols on the sub? d2 d1 d4? or single 2, 4,?

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

Has dual 2 ohm coils on it..i want the sub to be as loud as possible and put out some decent spl for being 1 12"...

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

No plans to upgrade right now on the sub..just want to get as much as i can out of this one..have replaces all speakers and such in the truck so it is sounding good.just want more lol

[CrazyKenKid 64]

hey i jsut found some nice pics of your sub!

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6679127

darn sexy sub! nice!! plsu it can handle 1500rms nice!

well now you need to ask yourself which amp would you get? esspecial an 2 or 4channel amp that can output like 800-1500rms lol the only one i can think of that comes to me off hand is a orion 8002! lol! but good luck finding one of those!

but hey if you did notice there is a pre-sale on sae1200d v2 for 280! is that out of your price range? it is a mono amp and the v1 did 1770rms at 1ohm!!! so stupid amount of power!

but it almsot sounds like you want to get loud and not pay much? any idea of what numbers you wnat to hit? 135-140? more less?

you say you have replaced all the speakers in your truck to what? components? if os have you sound deaden them and amped them yet?

[CrazyKenKid 64]

speak of the devil i found one lol!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orion-8002-2ch-Car-Audio-Amplifier-Rare-Limited-Edition_W0QQitemZ260497624914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item3ca6de4f52

i used one of these to power 4-8inch subs at 4ohm and omg it sounded awesome!!

Edited October 28, 2009 by CrazyKenKid

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

just ordered my sound deadner last night..so that will be going in.. and yes compentet speakers. i am lloking to spend $200-$300 on a amp new or used..just need some more power to feed this thing ) Thanks for all the fast help guys! love this place already

[CrazyKenKid 64]

so you got component speakers, sound deadener, component amp? and now you have the sub and need another amp for the sub correct! and your budget is 200-300! so that sae1200 falls right in your price range then! and since you got the money don't wiat! buy it today b/c i think the pre-sale will be ending soon!! so get yours before the prices goes up!! or buy a reburb saz1000d from db-r! if he repairs it comes with a 1year warrenty and there are son many ppl on here who can vouche for his work and how good he is and all the other good stuff!!

http://www.db-r.com/sell/store2/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_67_69_80&zenid=6v912oqglnj7e0iqd9sno06j03

or see if he will have any sae1200d v1 availble yet! he is sold out of them right now! but you never know kids fry stuff all the time! lol!!

question what are you using for your components to power them? and how many do you have? just a front stage or a rear stage also?

[Impious 1,476]

Alright guys..i have an Eclipse TI series 12" running in my truck. Right now i have a kenwood kac7202 with 4gauge wiring and a 1F capacitor. The amp doesnt put out enough power..so Should i buy a mono block amp or 2 channel and bridge it? And what amps do you recoment for this sub? my budget is not huge so take it easy on me lol.. Any help it all getting more sound outa this thing will be aprreciated!

Buy a monoblock. Bridging a 2chan to 1chan causes a certain distortion.

Monoblocks have better powersupplies that can take more beatin. doesnt get as hot, etc.

None of your reasoning is really correct.

As to the original question...a mono amp would generally be more flexible, and generally more efficient and more cost effective. That's in general, not always the case. If you find a 2-channel amp that fits your goals and budget there is nothing wrong with using it.

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

well before i do anything more i have to get that sound deadner installed the sub rattles things apart in the truck haha..any more help is greatly appreciated!

[CrazyKenKid 64]

lol deadener ftw lol!!

all i can say about deadener is make sure the surface is clean as a whistle and don't but it up each piece! either over lap-it or leave a gap! also doulbe it up and beind the speaker (comps) triple it up!!

so 3 layers directly behind the speaker, 2layer above it and if you can fit a third run just do 1 layer! it is what i did and i love it!! they sound awesome!!

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

I am hoping it makes a world of differnce..nothign worse than having to listen to my truck rattle...any one ever check these out?

http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-BXi1208D-2400-WATT-CLASS-D-MONO-AMP-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ200362671160QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item2ea68bbc38

i have never actually used anything from hifonics..but my friend has some amps from them..whats every ones opinion?

[CrazyKenKid 64]

well for starters that is a refub one and it only puts out 1200rms! so how reliable do you think the refub is? if it was by db-r then it would be awesome but from someone else can you trust them? hell i would jsut get the sae1200 (at least we know it can output a ton of power check out the specs of the v1 (1770rms)

other thenn that plenty of ppl use hifonics my buddied used one a while ago and well it broke so he got it repaired and it broke again then he got it repiared and the company went bankrupt and stole his amp! lol! o well you win some you lose some eh!

but for sure let other ppl chime in abou them and don't take my word for it.

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

yeaaa 1770rms does sound amazing lol..the sub would love that much power

[CrazyKenKid 64]

ya and at 12.5volts! and the was the v1! and the v2 is a beffed up version! lol!! nice eh! you should get one!! just do it! and if you plan to upgrade down the road you will be good to go!

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

such a beastly amp! and a quite amazing price i must say..it is just what the sub wants for pwoer ) after i get the system all done ill have to get meter in it and see what it can do

[CrazyKenKid 64]

well don't wiat to long for the sae b/c before you know it the preorder will be all done! and the price wil like double! lo!

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

for sure..as soon as i sell my old alpine subs the amp is mine lol..cant wait! thanks for the super fast response time! this site is amazing

[CrazyKenKid 64]

you are welcome! and jsut a word of advise you don't away get response this fast! normally good things you got to wiat for lol!! but some nights you get lucky and some nights you have to wiat!

[KU40 173]

speak of the devil i found one lol!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orion-8002-2ch-Car-Audio-Amplifier-Rare-Limited-Edition_W0QQitemZ260497624914QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item3ca6de4f52

i used one of these to power 4-8inch subs at 4ohm and omg it sounded awesome!!

That amp is only 800 watts RMS. If you want a good Orion 2 channel amp, go back in the old days of the red HCCA and G4 amps. They are underrated by nearly 100% and can go down to 1 ohm bridged.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

for sure..as soon as i sell my old alpine subs the amp is mine lol..cant wait! thanks for the super fast response time! this site is amazing

[tegeler_eclipse12 1]

looks like i am going with the sundown amp )

[CrazyKenKid 64]

looks like i am going with the sundown amp )

looks like another satisfied customer! make sure to leave a review on the sundown section once you get the amp and install it!!