Battery Brands

[rickandleli 1]

There are so many choices when it comes to batteries. A lot of batteries have a high ah rate, but how about discharge rate. I have read a lot of people talking about DEKA batteries, but which models? Kinetik, Powermaster, Odyssey, Stinger, Xstatic? Which ones would you guys recommend for a sundown 3500d, used mainly for daily, but some competitions? I have a Mean Green alternator, not sure about actual amps on that though. Hard to find a good HO alternator for my 99 Durango.

[mjmarovi 8]

There are so many choices when it comes to batteries. A lot of batteries have a high ah rate, but how about discharge rate. I have read a lot of people talking about DEKA batteries, but which models? Kinetik, Powermaster, Odyssey, Stinger, Xstatic? Which ones would you guys recommend for a sundown 3500d, used mainly for daily, but some competitions? I have a Mean Green alternator, not sure about actual amps on that though. Hard to find a good HO alternator for my 99 Durango.

it's not just my opinion, but I do, as do many professional electrical audio guys, including the top dog at Ohio Generator, would recommend kinetik. I see a lot of guys run a single hc2400 with a sundown 3000d or 3500d. With all the correct wiring, big 3, and upgraded alty of course. Which it seems you do have all of that. I have used optimas in the past, work great but not a lot of amps. Powermasters are great powerhouses, but for audio, I have found kinetiks to have quicker power delivery, withstand more abuse, hold voltage the best (key is to charge to 15volts), and also give the lowest amount of resistance to an electrical system, resulting in cleaner power deliver to your amplifiers and in turn you speakers.

Not saying others won't work, but I believe kinetiks are well worth the money. www.onlinecarstereo.com a valid website for purchasing equipment has great deals on them. depending on how long you plan on being able to play your system full tilt, I would recommend at minimum the hc2400, and preferably their new hc3800.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

one more quick question what do you plan to be? a daily driver or a spl head!! but kinetik is for sure a great battery and a decent price!

i have used kinetik and batcap and believe it or not i prefer batcaps! but then again a lot of ppl use XS and if you have the space go with a C&D battery! hugh batteries 100lb lol 135ah. and even those nsb batteries! llol!

there are so many batteries to choose from which one would you choose lol!! how about spin a wheel and get lucky! lol! jk!!

but i prefer a batcap! the next batteries i will be using will be 2-nsb90's! or those sprinter 12v500 batteries!

so choose wisely and draw on all the knowledge that the ssa member say!!

Edited October 28, 2009 by CrazyKenKid

[mjmarovi 8]

one more quick question what do you plan to be? a daily driver or a spl head!! but kinetik is for sure a great battery and a decent price!

i have used kinetik and batcap and believe it or not i prefer batcaps! but then again a lot of ppl use XS and if you have the space go with a C&D battery! hugh batteries 100lb lol 135ah. and even those nsb batteries! llol!

there are so many batteries to choose from which one would you choose lol!! how about spin a wheel and get lucky! lol! jk!!

but i prefer a batcap! the next batteries i will be using will be 2-nsb90's! or those sprinter 12v500 batteries!

so choose wisely and draw on all the knowledge that the ssa member say!!

yeh I mean if someone told me they were to ban kinetiks, batcap and XS would def. be my next two choices. I don't really have experience with the nsb's, but don't you have to be more careful with how you mount those? I thought they were not agm's. also curious what you liked about the batcaps? what specific power cells did you use that you are comparing? not trying to disprove you, just curious always looking for that edge!

[CrazyKenKid 64]

one more quick question what do you plan to be? a daily driver or a spl head!! but kinetik is for sure a great battery and a decent price!

i have used kinetik and batcap and believe it or not i prefer batcaps! but then again a lot of ppl use XS and if you have the space go with a C&D battery! hugh batteries 100lb lol 135ah. and even those nsb batteries! llol!

there are so many batteries to choose from which one would you choose lol!! how about spin a wheel and get lucky! lol! jk!!

but i prefer a batcap! the next batteries i will be using will be 2-nsb90's! or those sprinter 12v500 batteries!

so choose wisely and draw on all the knowledge that the ssa member say!!

yeh I mean if someone told me they were to ban kinetiks, batcap and XS would def. be my next two choices. I don't really have experience with the nsb's, but don't you have to be more careful with how you mount those? I thought they were not agm's. also curious what you liked about the batcaps? what specific power cells did you use that you are comparing? not trying to disprove you, just curious always looking for that edge!

first of here is the nsb90 spec sheet

http://www.northstarbattery.com/data_sheets/TeleCom/NSB90.pdf

and i have never used any nsb batteries but i knwo they are sealed so mounting isn't an issue plus i am pretty sure they are agm that is what ppl use these types of batteries for car audio.

i currently use the batcap 2000's (2 of them) and i used to own 2-kinetik hc2400 about 3-4years old! i have never used a BNIB 2400 which is most likey why the batcap 2000's worked out better for me b/c the batcaps were nearly new.

the thing i noticed the most about the batcaps' is they like to disspate pretty fast but they also charge up even faster! which is awesome and it doesn't take that long to charge them back up again!! also they hold about 13.4volts at 2krms and the kinetik held about 13.1 and took awhile long to charge up once they were a litlte dead!

anything else i might have missed? if so let me know and i will try my best. i am no battery tech i am jsut saying what worked better for me for my application and YES i relieaze the batcaps are made for burping and all but i jsut liked how they preformed for me.

[shizzzon 461]

If you are competing, Batcaps are the preferred choice.

If you are on a budget, Deka 9a31s or Carquest NG31s ordered in bulk is the way to go.

[mjmarovi 8]

crazykenkid, thanks for your info. yeh, could be possible your older kinetiks just didn't get completely charged, but interesting you found it took them longer to charge. like you said though, they were older so who knows what abuse they went through. I think the final conclusion here is, if you are going to spend the extra dollar, kinetik, batcap, or XS are all great not really a bad choice, and if on a budget like shizzon said, as I do hear a lot about that the dekas are a good choice, but not so sure how "budget" they are, price I saw for a 9a31 was 187 dollars, I'd much rather have a kinetik hc1400 for 3 dollars more!

Edited October 28, 2009 by mjmarovi

[shizzzon 461]

if u spend almost 200 for a 9a31... then u are not on a budget.i only give 135 shipped whenever i need any

[mjmarovi 8]

135 sounds better, but even then, is it really going to outperform even the kinetik hc800? can pick those up for 140, and they are less than half the size and 1/3 the weight of a deka.

[CrazyKenKid 64]

crazykenkid, thanks for your info. yeh, could be possible your older kinetiks just didn't get completely charged, but interesting you found it took them longer to charge. like you said though, they were older so who knows what abuse they went through. I think the final conclusion here is, if you are going to spend the extra dollar, kinetik, batcap, or XS are all great not really a bad choice, and if on a budget like shizzon said, as I do hear a lot about that the dekas are a good choice, but not so sure how "budget" they are, price I saw for a 9a31 was 187 dollars, I'd much rather have a kinetik hc1400 for 3 dollars more!

well also keep in mind the size of a batcap 2000 being 6 ½ “x 7” x 6” and 35lb each so they aer roughly half the size of the kinetik hc2400 are so they have less of a reserve to charge up and the cells are a lot smaller so faster charge time maybe! other then that like i said they were old and i don't really know how the last guy treated them so who know what is up with them! those were jsut my findings and what i noticed about them! also there float voltage is around 12.1-12.3 while the hc2400 was around 13.1 ish.

but i am not a battery guy so my finding are uneducated and very crude. but shizzzon also has some of the best advice i seem to notice!

also one more thing to note is teh Ah on a batcap 2000 is only 50ah each and on the kinetik hc2400 around 130 ish/

Edited October 28, 2009 by CrazyKenKid

[audiolife 14]

A smaller reserve just equals a dead battery quicker. 30% depth of discharge happens a lot more quickly to a 35 ah battery than a 120 ah battery. I have had nothing but good luck with my kinetik 1400, this February it will be 5 years old and it has driven systems from 500 watts to 1700 watts. I tend to stay within kinetik's recommendations and even a little bit above no issues. I have tested other batteries within their recommendations and experienced low voltage and dimming.