hifonics BXi 2610d or BXI 2010d

[SynCity 2]

Hello i recently purchased 2 of the power acoustics 55001d amps to power 4 SSAicon 15's. turns out the amps are complete garbage and i wish i never got them.

anyways i'm sending one back to either get store credit or sell both on craigslist to purchase one of the 2 models of hifonics ( heard they are better then they used to be) and for the price i cant beat it.

1 amps per 2 subs.

so my question is the subs are approx 1000w rms and the BXi 2010d should be baseline for the subs. but is it worth the extra $120 per amp worth it for the extra 600w (BXi 2610d)?

also if anybody has firsthand experiance with these amps your feedback is greatful.

[slim2fattycake 85]

600 watts is not worth it.

What ohm load do you need your 2000 or whatever you want at?

[SynCity 2]

oh sorry ICON 15 d1's

[///M5 2,833]

Why not buy something used instead of buying a budget amp?

[SynCity 2]

i like the warranty.

[slim2fattycake 85]

If you like the warranty then go with AQ or Sundown.

If you want something good for the money then Audiopipe AP3000 is the way to go. You can power all 4 subs at 2 ohms with one of these amps. I have never had a problem with my amp so I cannot give input on their warranty. I got my amp for 320 shipped with 1 year warranty. This is way way less than the hifonics bxi you're looking at. Also, this amp puts out the rated power.

Also, have you upgraded your electrical system for this amount of power? You're going to mess up some amps if you don't have the current to back them up.

[mjmarovi 8]

1.) hifonics amplifiers are tested to make within at least within %10 percent of rated power. so at minimum the 2610 will make ~2350 watts. that would be the absolute lowest power capablities from the amp at 14.4v. as long as you set your gains correctly you will receive nothing but clean power from the hifonics amplifiers. I have used mb quart by maxxsonics, loved them, grant you it was the premium series. other amp I had was the crunch gp3000d-pro, competition series from maxxsonics, so again not perfect comparison as they are tested to different standards. I have also done several installs with the brutus series though, and have had great results. IMO for the money you really can't beat'em.

as M5 stated though Sundown is def. worth a look. I am personally on their team and don't want to sound like that's the only reason I recommend them, but they really are IMO the best amps per dollar. they will always push more than rated power at less than rated voltage, which is impressive. And it is pretty safe to buy one used or refurb, with proper install no need to worry about problems.

[SynCity 2]

If you like the warranty then go with AQ or Sundown.

If you want something good for the money then Audiopipe AP3000 is the way to go. You can power all 4 subs at 2 ohms with one of these amps. I have never had a problem with my amp so I cannot give input on their warranty. I got my amp for 320 shipped with 1 year warranty. This is way way less than the hifonics bxi you're looking at. Also, this amp puts out the rated power.

Also, have you upgraded your electrical system for this amount of power? You're going to mess up some amps if you don't have the current to back them up.

hmm. i wouldnt mind giving the Audiopipe AP3000 a try. where did you buy you amp at? i'm looking for a online store seeing as according to there site no vegas dealers are avaliable. also seeing as i have 4 subs i think it would be only natural to purchase 2 of these... correct?

i've always dreamed of owning some sundowns yet i've yet to come up with the cash to buy them. seeing as its 4 subs and i want to push them at the rms or just a little above i think i would need something insane like the 4500 and that cost a pretty penny.

as for the electrical when i was running the 2 BAMF power acoustics i have 2 blue tops in the back with the stock battery. hopefully next year i'll upgrade the alt. the BAMF's were okay but did not do justice for the awesome subs.

[///M5 2,833]

i like the warranty.

If you buy a quality amp that won't be an issue. I also wouldn't run a Hifonics without as I would expect it would need it.

[mjmarovi 8]

sundown amps are underrated, chances are you could by a single 2000d and get similar performance that you were getting out of both of your power acoustik amps.

anyway though, what vc configuration are you icons? D1's or D2's? that audiopipe amp may not be the best choice for you. if they are D2's you can put one of those amps on each pair perfectly, but from i see, that amp is a 2-channel amp, and it's 1 ohm capability is when it is bridged to a 2 ohm load, so each channel is at 1 ohm. that means you must wire to a 2 ohm load for full power, and wiring to 1 ohm would really put each channel at .5 ohm, and on a budget amp I would highly not recommend doing that.

[SynCity 2]

sundown amps are underrated, chances are you could by a single 2000d and get similar performance that you were getting out of both of your power acoustik amps.

anyway though, what vc configuration are you icons? D1's or D2's? that audiopipe amp may not be the best choice for you. if they are D2's you can put one of those amps on each pair perfectly, but from i see, that amp is a 2-channel amp, and it's 1 ohm capability is when it is bridged to a 2 ohm load, so each channel is at 1 ohm. that means you must wire to a 2 ohm load for full power, and wiring to 1 ohm would really put each channel at .5 ohm, and on a budget amp I would highly not recommend doing that.

hmm... maybe i should just save up. i did have each sub wired 2 ohm and the whole 1 ohm at amp thing... which i still dont fully understand. but i've noticed that non of the amps i'm looking at are bridgeable. so i'll wait untill i sell these power acoustiks on craigslist to see how much i save so i can get a sundown.

now with the sundown i just need 1 2000d? or 2 2000d's? i guess if it means waiting a couple more months or so its worth it.

[bigrank916 72]

I have a BXI2006 on my BTL right now and it's realty fnucking loud. I got it refurb from sonicelectronixs.com for $240. It has never given me a prob and it's always been wired to 1 ohm. I also have a h/o alt so it feeds the power very nicely. I am happy with it but I wish I waited to buy a sundown. You should email Jacob and see how much he will give you on a trade in for those amps. I've sent him four already. Whatever choice you make, make the right one.

[mjmarovi 8]

hmm... maybe i should just save up. i did have each sub wired 2 ohm and the whole 1 ohm at amp thing... which i still dont fully understand. but i've noticed that non of the amps i'm looking at are bridgeable. so i'll wait untill i sell these power acoustiks on craigslist to see how much i save so i can get a sundown.

now with the sundown i just need 1 2000d? or 2 2000d's? i guess if it means waiting a couple more months or so its worth it.

first of all, do you have dual 1 ohm woofers or dual 2 ohm woofers....depending on your voice coils you could run a single 3500d, or two 2000d's. My idea for you would be to sell your amps and purchase one 2000d which will probably work better than both of the amps you have currently, then save up for electrical upgrades and a second 2000d as the woofers you have can handle the power.

[SynCity 2]

hmm... maybe i should just save up. i did have each sub wired 2 ohm and the whole 1 ohm at amp thing... which i still dont fully understand. but i've noticed that non of the amps i'm looking at are bridgeable. so i'll wait untill i sell these power acoustiks on craigslist to see how much i save so i can get a sundown.

now with the sundown i just need 1 2000d? or 2 2000d's? i guess if it means waiting a couple more months or so its worth it.

first of all, do you have dual 1 ohm woofers or dual 2 ohm woofers....depending on your voice coils you could run a single 3500d, or two 2000d's. My idea for you would be to sell your amps and purchase one 2000d which will probably work better than both of the amps you have currently, then save up for electrical upgrades and a second 2000d as the woofers you have can handle the power.

You know thats a good idea. The subs are Dual 1 Ohms. my current "electrical" upgrade consists of 3 batteries. a carquest starter, and 2 blue tops optima. upgraded the stock battery ground. and thats it.

but will the 1 2000d be sufficent enough for all 4 15's?

[corrie3232 8]

ummm the Sundown 2000 cost $600 + each right???

[mjmarovi 8]

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/store/products/Sundown-Audio-SAZ%252d2000D.html that's right here on SSA.

here's a refurbished one...absolute steal!

http://www.db-r.com/sell/store2/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_67_69_98

power wise, like I said the 2000d will put out around 2500 watts in the mid 12volt range, and with proper voltage closer to 3kw. I doubt that is much less if any less power than what you were getting out of those power acoustiks. so yeh a single 2000d would be plenty of power to pound while you save up for another one.

of course output and wiring options still depend on which icons you have, can you please tell me if you have the dual 1's or dual 2's?

[SynCity 2]

they are dual ones.

[Duran 387]

Switching from Power Acoustics to Hifonics wasn't an upgrade in my opinion.

[mjmarovi 8]

Switching from Power Acoustics to Hifonics wasn't an upgrade in my opinion.

I'm sorry, but do you have experience with both? Power acoustiks is an absolute joke held by no standards. Hifonics is a USA company out of chicago, and are actually held to decent build standards, and also offers competition series equipment that are widely used in competition.

dual 1's? perfect, I mean you will only be able to wire them all 4 at 2 ohm when you only have the one amp, but when you get the second you will be able to get full power out of them, wiring each pair of woofers to each single amp to 1 ohm.

If you are careful, it's not covered by warranty, but some people do run that SAZ's at .5 ohm. I just really wouldn't recommend it, kinda my disclaimer if you do. lol

[ralstonballa2413 20]

I just sold a bxi 2010d and it was a good amp the pushed quite a bit of power but after I had it for about 6 months it stopped working then I got a new one through the warranty but when I recieved the new one it wasn't producing as much power as the first one I had. Soon after this I sold it and just got a Sundown SAZ 1500 and I absolutely love it. Easily does as much power as the Hifonics and seems to have less strain on my electrical system. I got mine refurbished from db-r and I have had other refurbished amps that were terrible but this one looks brand new and works absolutely perfect. I would advise getting one from db-r if you are working with a budget.

[Duran 387]

I'm sorry, but do you have experience with both? Power acoustiks is an absolute joke held by no standards. Hifonics is a USA company out of chicago, and are actually held to decent build standards, and also offers competition series equipment that are widely used in competition.

"decent build standards" is not okay with me, I want perfection, though I may not always get it. Being a Sundown user you should know what I mean, guess not.

...I had it for about 6 months it stopped working then I got a new one through the warranty...when I recieved the new one it wasn't producing as much power as the first one I had. Soon after this I sold it and just got a Sundown SAZ 1500...Easily does as much power as the Hifonics and seems to have less strain on my electrical system.

[mjmarovi 8]

I'm sorry, but do you have experience with both? Power acoustiks is an absolute joke held by no standards. Hifonics is a USA company out of chicago, and are actually held to decent build standards, and also offers competition series equipment that are widely used in competition.

"decent build standards" is not okay with me, I want perfection, though I may not always get it. Being a Sundown user you should know what I mean, guess not.

...I had it for about 6 months it stopped working then I got a new one through the warranty...when I recieved the new one it wasn't producing as much power as the first one I had. Soon after this I sold it and just got a Sundown SAZ 1500...Easily does as much power as the Hifonics and seems to have less strain on my electrical system.

I want perfection as well, but that has nothing to do with comparing Hifonics to Power Acoustiks. those two companies are wildly different, and using crunch A/B class amps and Hifonoics brutus series is like using rockford prime amps and saying rockford sucks. what about Hifonics XXV? what about the crunch 3000d-pro? and for rockford what about the power series? some companies that have high-end equipment that is competition grade also offer less expensive lines for people on a smaller budget, doesn't mean the company is crap.

now back the actual topic: OP any progress?