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Ok, I'm looking to put a new H/U in. Here are my parameters:

-nav built in

bluetooth built in

-ipod control

-dvd

-double din

-5.8" or bigger screen

-sub pre outs

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Pioneer Premier f90bt. A friend of mine has one and I'm really impressed with it. I can find it for about $650 new and $475 refurb on Ebay(would you guys trust a refurb???) The only thing I don't like about the unit is the cd slot. Its petty, but I'm used to flipdowns where the slot is behind the face. I think it looks a little sleeker, plus you get an extra inch or so of screen.

Opinions on this unit? Anybody have any suggestions for similar units, preferably around the same price range?

Thanks in advance.

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Alpine IVA-W505.

Just go buy the Blackbird II whenever...

Gonna run ya just over $1000 after the gps add-on but Alpine is the way to go...

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Alpine IVA-W505.

Just go buy the Blackbird II whenever...

Gonna run ya just over $1000 after the gps add-on but Alpine is the way to go...

That is too much. I'm not gonna spend a grand for anything less than a 50" screen.lol.

I want the middle of the road.Not a Jensen, but not a $1000 H/U.

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another thing. multiple AV inputs would be nice. the f90bt requires you to use both the ipod cord and your only input if you wanna see and hear it. If I can find a comparable unit with at least two inputs, I'm gonna buy a digital converter box and a stealth antenna and do the mobile tv thing(already got my free coupon and found a box that runs off of 12 volts)

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Ok, I'm looking to put a new H/U in. Here are my parameters:

-nav built in

bluetooth built in

-ipod control

-dvd

-double din

-5.8" or bigger screen

-sub pre outs

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Pioneer Premier f90bt. A friend of mine has one and I'm really impressed with it. I can find it for about $650 new and $475 refurb on Ebay(would you guys trust a refurb???) The only thing I don't like about the unit is the cd slot. Its petty, but I'm used to flipdowns where the slot is behind the face. I think it looks a little sleeker, plus you get an extra inch or so of screen.

Opinions on this unit? Anybody have any suggestions for similar units, preferably around the same price range?

Thanks in advance.

I'd look into Kenwood.They have a DNX-6140 that is similar in style and features to the F90BT.Built in navigation by Garmin.Parrot Bluetooth.Direct iPod control.DVD feedback. Double Din 6.1" fixed screen, and a rear/sub switchable pre-out.If you are shopping on eBay the 6140 seems to be about $725 brand new.As far as a refurbished unit, if you are already putting in hundreds of dollars into a nice head unit, go ahead and by new and get the full warranty.Sure it may save you money, but think about how long you'll be sitting there punching yourself in the head when the unit goes out and the short term warranty is over.As far as looks, the 6140 is pretty sharp, but the F90 is pretty sleek as well, with the gloss finish on the face and the variable illumination.The 6140 has variable illumination as well.I've installed several of both and haven't really found too many peeves about the DNX-6140.

I'm sure the F90BT is pretty impressive as far as sitting in your buddie's car and playing around with it from time to time, but as far as owning it and using it everyday there are a number of things that grow old.The F series seemed too good to be true in production, and was a trainwreck when released.Though the engineers and techs have come up with many updates to fix many of the problems, Pioneer has already released a whole new line to replace the F series.I hope this helps.Feel free to hit me up with any questions.

Joe

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Ok, I'm looking to put a new H/U in. Here are my parameters:

-nav built in

bluetooth built in

-ipod control

-dvd

-double din

-5.8" or bigger screen

-sub pre outs

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Pioneer Premier f90bt. A friend of mine has one and I'm really impressed with it. I can find it for about $650 new and $475 refurb on Ebay(would you guys trust a refurb???) The only thing I don't like about the unit is the cd slot. Its petty, but I'm used to flipdowns where the slot is behind the face. I think it looks a little sleeker, plus you get an extra inch or so of screen.

Opinions on this unit? Anybody have any suggestions for similar units, preferably around the same price range?

Thanks in advance.

I'd look into Kenwood.They have a DNX-6140 that is similar in style and features to the F90BT.Built in navigation by Garmin.Parrot Bluetooth.Direct iPod control.DVD feedback. Double Din 6.1" fixed screen, and a rear/sub switchable pre-out.If you are shopping on eBay the 6140 seems to be about $725 brand new.As far as a refurbished unit, if you are already putting in hundreds of dollars into a nice head unit, go ahead and by new and get the full warranty.Sure it may save you money, but think about how long you'll be sitting there punching yourself in the head when the unit goes out and the short term warranty is over.As far as looks, the 6140 is pretty sharp, but the F90 is pretty sleek as well, with the gloss finish on the face and the variable illumination.The 6140 has variable illumination as well.I've installed several of both and haven't really found too many peeves about the DNX-6140.

I'm sure the F90BT is pretty impressive as far as sitting in your buddie's car and playing around with it from time to time, but as far as owning it and using it everyday there are a number of things that grow old.The F series seemed too good to be true in production, and was a trainwreck when released.Though the engineers and techs have come up with many updates to fix many of the problems, Pioneer has already released a whole new line to replace the F series.I hope this helps.Feel free to hit me up with any questions.

Joe

Thanks dude. That is a good unit and you are very informative. fing05.gif:fing34: I have a KCD-X692(borrowing indefinitely from a friend until I buy my double din) right now, and I must say I love kenwoods handling of ipod way better than pioneers i've seen. My friend with the f90 has to open his glove box and turn the ipod on every time he starts the car. I leave my ipod in the car everyday and i never have to do anything. It starts automatically.

I have another question that you are anyone else could help me with.

Because I want to stay as cheap as possible, should I cut NAV out of the equation?

pros of having nav:

-sleek(no extra stuff)

-instant directions

cons:

It is a lot more expensive than similar units without it

pros of not having nav:

cheaper(plus I have a magellan I can use if I go somewhere unfamiliar)

cons:

have to remember directions or think to to bring external gps before hand

I know I sound like a cheapskate, but I live alone and make about $1000 a month. I've got bills and need to save for other things like repaying my student loans, etc. I wanna make sure I get the most bang for as few bucks as possible. Some people are the Geo Metro(cheap ass Jensen or Dual) type of people, and some or the Porsche 911($2000 head unit) type of people. I'm a Toyota Camry type guy and I'm looking for the Toyota Camry of DvD(possibly/hopefully NAV) units.

Just to clarify my situation so you guys can understand the situation. Thanx for your answers so far(especially you, Joe) and I will appreciate anyone and everyone's further input.

This is a damn-friendly Audio form.I'm glad I started coming here :drink40:

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Thanks dude. That is a good unit and you are very informative. fing05.gif:fing34: I have a KCD-X692(borrowing indefinitely from a friend until I buy my double din) right now, and I must say I love kenwoods handling of ipod way better than pioneers i've seen. My friend with the f90 has to open his glove box and turn the ipod on every time he starts the car. I leave my ipod in the car everyday and i never have to do anything. It starts automatically.

I have another question that you are anyone else could help me with.

Because I want to stay as cheap as possible, should I cut NAV out of the equation?

pros of having nav:

-sleek(no extra stuff)

-instant directions

cons:

It is a lot more expensive than similar units without it

pros of not having nav:

cheaper(plus I have a magellan I can use if I go somewhere unfamiliar)

cons:

have to remember directions or think to to bring external gps before hand

I know I sound like a cheapskate, but I live alone and make about $1000 a month. I've got bills and need to save for other things like repaying my student loans, etc. I wanna make sure I get the most bang for as few bucks as possible. Some people are the Geo Metro(cheap ass Jensen or Dual) type of people, and some or the Porsche 911($2000 head unit) type of people. I'm a Toyota Camry type guy and I'm looking for the Toyota Camry of DvD(possibly/hopefully NAV) units.

Just to clarify my situation so you guys can understand the situation. Thanx for your answers so far(especially you, Joe) and I will appreciate anyone and everyone's further input.

This is a damn-friendly Audio form.I'm glad I started coming here :drink40:

Sorry it took so long to reply.I'm having trouble with the settings on this website sending me an email whenever some one replies in a topic I have posted a message in.Frustrating.....

Anyways that KDC-X692 is a real nice unit. Good, high voltage pre-outs and easy to use direct iPod control. Real nice CD quality playback too. Kenwood is also one of the only, maybe the only company, on the market that you can use your white USB iPod cable that came with your iPod and plug it in to the USB of the unit to get direct iPod playback and charging capabilities without having to buy the manufacturer's cable(saves you $20).

America is in a recession, and I get questions like that everyday from customers. I DO NOT recommend Jensen OR Dual to anyone, for obvious reasons. As far as navigation goes, no doubt, you are going to save a couple hundred dollars. It honestly comes down to your personal preference. I always recommend that people save up to a point to get what they WANT, not what they will settle with. Anyone that knows me knows the saying "Buy what you want, not what you can afford.Cause if you buy what you can afford, you are going to end up going back and buying what you want later." That X692 you have now is a nice single-din piece, but if you are just dying to have a screen and can due without the navi, Kenwood has some NICE screens out for 09.Incredible picture quality.Pioneer's AVH-P4100DVD is one from Pioneer though that I wouldn't leave out for units with out Navigation.Super sleek design and lots of nice features.Good iPod control as well.I'd recommend just going through Kenwood's website and looking through their units and comparing them side by side.One thing I also want to say as far as navigation goes though is you can probably still get your hands on the DNX-8120 for relatively cheap, like the mid $750's.Only a year old and has all kinds of goodies.Just look around and hit me up with a PM if you have any further questions or any particular units.

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update:

I'm definitely going with the dnx 6140.

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change of plans. Got a deal on a jvc. bought it

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