Me or the sub? Help! Please! Pics

[ShaneSauce 2]

Sounds like the coils were getting hot.

Put the sub back in, turn "loud" off and see how it sounds.

If you would have kept going the sub would have stopped playing completely so it probably still works.

Edited August 3, 2009 by ShaneSauce

[mbarber25 29]

live and learn brotha live and learn! that smell was DEF NOT the sub just breaking in tho, doesn't mean its not going to be OK and i mean just ok not perfect. as crosspug said expect a much shorter life expectancy from sub for sure. good luck tom. let me know how it goes.

the shorter life expentancy is killing me.. if it works i could maybe run it.. but for how long.. i dont know if i just want to send it in now and get it over with.. meanwhile i build up my electrical.. just getting a battery or whatever.. then by the time i get it back it'll be ready to be ran at 1ohm. but it all depends on how bad it is.. which i still don't know :/

but yea definately not.. now my car reeks haha and so does my room a little. but that smells really burns ya throat

[mbarber25 29]

Sounds like the coils were getting hot.

Put the sub back in, turn "loud" off and see how it sounds.

If you would have kept going the sub would have stopped playing completely so it probably still works.

yea it was still working just fine.. but do the coils smell that bad when they just get hot? or only when they start to burn?

is there anyway of telling how bad the coil is?

[SPLScion 3]

Sounds like the coils were getting hot.

Put the sub back in, turn "loud" off and see how it sounds.

If you would have kept going the sub would have stopped playing completely so it probably still works.

yea it was still working just fine.. but do the coils smell that bad when they just get hot? or only when they start to burn?

is there anyway of telling how bad the coil is?

from how you describe it just hot is unlikely usually the smell of hot vc's is MUCH more sublte and dissapates fatser then your describing, if the smells as bad as you describe then i'm suprised you didnt see smoke. rem those jl's that blew at end of comp? they "played" sort of and were def. blown, his was a very bad blow but he didn't fuse any thing so it did'nt stop moving, however if you still heard notes from your sub you may be able to get a little use out of it... maybe, just pray to the bass gods! also be very happy you never wired down to 1 ohm with that monster of an amp you have, you'd probly would have seen flames from the sound of things.

Edited August 3, 2009 by SPLScion

[mbarber25 29]

Sounds like the coils were getting hot.

Put the sub back in, turn "loud" off and see how it sounds.

If you would have kept going the sub would have stopped playing completely so it probably still works.

yea it was still working just fine.. but do the coils smell that bad when they just get hot? or only when they start to burn?

is there anyway of telling how bad the coil is?

from how you describe it just hot is unlikely usually the smell of hot vc's is MUCH more sublte and dissapates fatser then your describing, if the smells as bad as you describe then i'm suprised you didnt see smoke. rem those jl's that blew at end of comp? they "played" sort of and were def. blown, his was a very bad blow but he didn't fuse any thing so it did'nt stop moving, however if you still heard notes from your sub you may be able to get a little use out of it... maybe, just pray to the bass gods! also be very happy you never wired down to 1 ohm with that monster of an amp you have, you'd probly would have seen flames from the sound of things.

i think my mind is whats making the msell worse than it is. plus there's no window open in my house.. but still.. in the car it was intense..

but i wish it was wired to 1ohm lol.. then i wouldnt be using stupid loud features because it would already be louder!

but i was playing it at full blast until i got home and then i decided to fix my trunk. then i put my nose in the port.. so it was still working fine..

but i did hear a funny sound but i beleive it was my deck plate rattling or something but who knows now

[mbarber25 29]

ok so i just tested out the sub and it sounds fine

but i know i still damaged some coils. the coils that i can see still look brand new.. but idk about the ones that are deeper that aren't visible

should i be alright using it? i will not abuse that thing ever again. this was a big notification to me that they aren't industructable

would it be wired to 4ohms have to do with more wear and tear on the sub.. since there's more resistance and all? or am i wrong?

thanks for the help guys..

i'm just nervous to go play it and have it get messed up even more! how long should it last me now with minor coil damage with?

[crosspug 2]

ok so i just tested out the sub and it sounds fine

but i know i still damaged some coils. the coils that i can see still look brand new.. but idk about the ones that are deeper that aren't visible

should i be alright using it? i will not abuse that thing ever again. this was a big notification to me that they aren't industructable

would it be wired to 4ohms have to do with more wear and tear on the sub.. since there's more resistance and all? or am i wrong?

thanks for the help guys..

i'm just nervous to go play it and have it get messed up even more! how long should it last me now with minor coil damage with?

AFAIK running it at 4ohms won't cause more wear and tear. BUT Look at it this way, it gets less power at 4ohms than at 1ohm so in order to get the same output you have to turn it up (gains or headunit or loud or bass boost) more which may lead you to heading into clipping with incorrectly set gains in the quest for *MORE* bump.

That being said I don't know if running it with more power (if you wire to 1ohm) may let it die faster due to the damage already received?

If you can, go have a look at a good "setting the gains" tutorial online and set them properly. Once you've set them that IS as much output as it gets in the current setup (box, placement etc...)............. Any type of boost or loud or more gains may lead to damage (could be slow long term or bang pfffff gone) even if it sounds louder at the time.

Glad to hear that it sounds fine though..... hopefully alot more faithful service is to be had from the beast.

Jono

[Duran 387]

Turn that useless "Loud" button off and set your gains with your volume up no more than 21/36, and NEVER go higher unless you know what your doing.

[mbarber25 29]

ok so i just tested out the sub and it sounds fine

but i know i still damaged some coils. the coils that i can see still look brand new.. but idk about the ones that are deeper that aren't visible

should i be alright using it? i will not abuse that thing ever again. this was a big notification to me that they aren't industructable

would it be wired to 4ohms have to do with more wear and tear on the sub.. since there's more resistance and all? or am i wrong?

thanks for the help guys..

i'm just nervous to go play it and have it get messed up even more! how long should it last me now with minor coil damage with?

AFAIK running it at 4ohms won't cause more wear and tear. BUT Look at it this way, it gets less power at 4ohms than at 1ohm so in order to get the same output you have to turn it up (gains or headunit or loud or bass boost) more which may lead you to heading into clipping with incorrectly set gains in the quest for *MORE* bump.

That being said I don't know if running it with more power (if you wire to 1ohm) may let it die faster due to the damage already received?

If you can, go have a look at a good "setting the gains" tutorial online and set them properly. Once you've set them that IS as much output as it gets in the current setup (box, placement etc...)............. Any type of boost or loud or more gains may lead to damage (could be slow long term or bang pfffff gone) even if it sounds louder at the time.

Glad to hear that it sounds fine though..... hopefully alot more faithful service is to be had from the beast.

Jono

running it with more power is worrying me but then if i goes then i know i should send it in

i already know how to set the gain lol thanks.. i do it with a dmm

thanks for helping!

Turn that useless "Loud" button off and set your gains with your volume up no more than 21/36, and NEVER go higher unless you know what your doing.

turned the loud button off. and reset the gain. and i won't go higher. i just wish i had a oscilloscope so i can pinpoint exactly where to stop. but i don't.. only a dmm.. know any where i can find an oscilloscope for a reasonable price?

and if and when i wire it down to 1ohm.. will more power kill it since it's already damaged? or would it be the same? (doing everything properly)

thanks!

Edited August 4, 2009 by mbarber25

[SPLScion 3]

nice she still works! I wouldn't worry about running at 1 ohm, by the time you get the other battery and are able to you will know where you stand with the sub. rem. this sub is not broke in, I had to play my 15's at no more then 2/3 volume for like a month before they broke in properly, they are more fragile till then so take it easy on it till break in is over, then when you wire it down take it easy on it again, when i finally got my new amp and gave the sub the power they could really handle they "broke in for real" apparently cuz after a week or 2 they got louder on the mic and to my ear.

[mbarber25 29]

nice she still works! I wouldn't worry about running at 1 ohm, by the time you get the other battery and are able to you will know where you stand with the sub. rem. this sub is not broke in, I had to play my 15's at no more then 2/3 volume for like a month before they broke in properly, they are more fragile till then so take it easy on it till break in is over, then when you wire it down take it easy on it again, when i finally got my new amp and gave the sub the power they could really handle they "broke in for real" apparently cuz after a week or 2 they got louder on the mic and to my ear.

yea thank god it does.. really turned my stomach thinking about sending it back. still does but I think it'll be ok. anyways... I might buy a battery either tomorrow or the next day so once I get that-you know the deal! 1ohm. but I will be extra sensitive on the volume knob to be extra safe.