Project FrankenWagon

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Cross posted from smd

Just picked this up today to convert to a show car/competing car. Building starts tomorrow, and I warn you it will be a little slow at first.

Car - 1987 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser Station Wagon, 307 Y roller cam.

Dual flowmaster 40's

Seats 9

Rear 3 way components already installed in the far back pillers, 3 sets of RCA's ran, along with a run of 4 gauge (will be replaced with new 0/1)

THINGS WRONG WITH THE CAR (that I know of)

Needs a starting battery

Valve cover gaskets

A/C compressor (probably just going to throw an alternator there)

Tune up

Shocks

The interior on this car is immaculate. No tears, no stains, no cracks in the plastic, no scrapes, nothing! Just needs a little lovin' to get it clean on the inside, and a new headliner, which I will be doing this weekend. The outside is a little worse...lol. A few rust spots I need to get rid of pretty quick (will get pics in daylight tomorrow), chips in the paint, etc...but its nothing I can't fix.

System wise-

Headunit- Eclipse CD3100

EQ- haven't decided?

Front stage - Rockford Fosgate Power series components (most likely kicks)

Subs - DC sound lab lvl 5 18's or lots of lvl4 xl 12's

Amps - Probably Diablo audio technologies 2500's or inferno 8.1's

Exterior plans are to paint it gloss black or a dark candy red. The interior is in such good condition I don't want to re-do the hole inside to match the outside. Probably gonna be rollin' on some 24's or so later on down the road once things get underway.

I'm open to suggestions about electrical. I have plenty of room for a massive battery bank but charging is what I'm worried about. This motor has the SAME EXACT pulley setup as my 82 cutlass, 3 v-belt system. I'm going to put a 200 on the AC pump spot, the idle pulley spot for the AC, and the stock alternator spot. Think that will be good enough?

Also open to suggestions about subs and amps also. I really want to go with DC and diablo combo, but people have other suggestions then start throwing them out there! Subs up port back will be the option of choice.

Oh ya, and with the seats out, and all the back panels out, I'm thinking a good 25ish cubic foot or more room to work with before I bump too a wall. I know that might sound like much but if you saw this thing in person you would agree, its pucking huge!

Pics - Sorry I forgot to get them before it got dark, will get more tomorrow.

Wagontastic

Interior

Shot through the back window

Seats folded down

Back components

[shizzzon 461]

since u need shocks, have you considered your actual weight capacity limit?

Multiple Lvl5 18s and batts alone are gonna slam that baby down to the ground.

Might wanna think about airride if u got the money or something else less expensive.

PS - r u in Nebraska?

[MrBubbles00482 1]

since u need shocks, have you considered your actual weight capacity limit?

Multiple Lvl5 18s and batts alone are gonna slam that baby down to the ground.

Might wanna think about airride if u got the money or something else less expensive.

PS - r u in Nebraska?

Ya, I've thought about it...

I want to keep the second row, which shouldn't be TOO hard with this car and 4 18's, ingenuity will be the key. There are multiple places I can hide things, the side panels have hidden compartments that can hold 2 batteries apiece, the far back portion of the floor has a dropped down place for the sub amps etc..

I already fit a HC2000 under the hood easy, so thats one battery down. Also the car will be lifted to fit 24's so I might just lift the back a little extra for weight compensation.

PS - Nope not from Nebraska, way down south.

[jcarter1885 995]

i say go for it man, looking at all that space just made me jealous. what i would do to have all that room?

[jonbearsmt 919]

texas?

[shizzzon 461]

Antarctica?

[RobClay 20]

Hes in Arkansas lol

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Hes in Arkansas lol

Well...technically Texas and Arkansas. Lived on Arkansas side for 18 years, and now I'm on the other side..lol

Taking the car in for a tune up today, and to check all the fluids, hoses, check for leaks, etc.

Like I said I know the compressor is locked up, but an alternator is going there, and it needs spark plugs I'm sure.

I'll update this afternoon around 5 when I get off work and pick her up.

[nem 2,019]

Reminds me of the Queen Family Truckster. This is the car for you. Lots of room!!

[thefordmccord 0]

Wagon FTW!!

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Wagon FTW!!

Wagon + 6 15's = FTMFW!

I'll have 4 of them next weekend, then I'll order the other 2 later.

Plan is RD Alpha 15's

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Updates.

So...I put the car in the shop as soon as I got it. Need spark plug wires, carburetor rebuild, and valve cover gaskets. I knew of all these things except the carb when I got the car.

It's been in the shop all weekend because he had to order parts for the carb, so I didn't get too do the headliner, and then I got bored and thought too myself "I've never soldered a cd harness before, just crimp caps, lets do it!"

Oh ya, Knukonceptz RCA's on the way, and I'll have the (4) RD alpha 15's next week.

Pics

Getting things ready (I had already butt connected the wires so I had to cut them again)

Ground and Switched 12volt wired

All that was left of the wire off the fuse on that side

So off with it and on with new wire!

All done

Buttoned up!

Keep in mind this is the first thing I've soldered since I did my 0/1 lugs for my wall in the cutlass, and that was with a blow torch and some thick solder. Been a while since I picked up an actual iron.

[- Nickelz N Dimez - 0]

Keep the pics coming!

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Keep the pics coming!

Will do, I'm picking the car up tomorrow morning or in the afternoon when I get off work. Hopefully they finished everything up on the car already so all it needed was the carburetor finished and put back on so I can get it in the morning...

I'm most likely going to start some body work tomorrow on the passenger side before I take her out of town. The rust on the passenger side is pretty bad unfortunately, although it's only surface rust, so nothing some sanding, filling and primer can't fix.

Just ordered some Knukonceptz 4 channel RCA's for my Sundown 100.4

Pics tomorrow!

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Double post because I can't sleep.

I've decided on a dual charging system consisting of 3 alternators.

One 170 amp alt in the stock location for the car, and mid and highs amps to run off of for the 12-14 volt system.

Then If possible I will do 2 18v alts in the A/C and smog pump locations to charge a rear battery bank consisting of most likely powermaster 16v batteries that will run the inferno 8.1 ONLY.

Time to start saving money =[

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Got the deck and SAX100.4 wired in.

I've already lost the output on the Swiss audio 3 way components that are in the far back C pillars.

It's either something with the Crossovers or the RCA's. I'm pretty sure it's the RCA's because they are cheap as shit, and I know my 100.4 is fine.

I have a set of Krystal 6 meter 4 channel RCA's on the way from Kunkonceptz. Should be here Wednesday I think.

I'll get pics up in the morning, along with the (4) 15's if I pick them up tomorrow.

[RobClay 20]

I wanna see the 15's, go pick em up

[worstenemy453 11]

This looks pretty sick. Cant wait to see a finished product.

[MrBubbles00482 1]

I wanna see the 15's, go pick em up

It's gonna be a week or two on 15's. I got rent to pay =[ If it was the first of the month I would have all of them.

BUT.

Opinions...

Trade 3 Kinetik HC2000 for 2 Turbostart 16v batts AND the charger for them.

STRAIGHT trade, turbostarts are floating at 15.7 apiece.

I'm going to be running a dual charging system, 250 amp 18v alt, and a 170 amp 14v alt (already have it).

If I get the 2 turbostarts, I can get more powermaster S1000 16v batts from mechman pretty cheap since they came out of a show car.

Then get the 250 amp 18v alt from him also later on down the road.

The 14v alt will be in the stock location, then the 18v will be in the smog pump location (not required in Arkansas, no inspection) and the only the 18v alt will do is charger the 6 16v batts and run the diablo 8.1 =]

The 170 amp alt will run the car, and my mids and high amps.

Tell me what you guys think on the trade..

PS - Listened to the 15's today before he takes them out...and man they pound..running on a Cadence Z9 at 1/2 barely flexin'...can't wait to see them movin at 10Kw

[alexj01_83 6]

I wanna see the 15's, go pick em up

It's gonna be a week or two on 15's. I got rent to pay =[ If it was the first of the month I would have all of them.

BUT.

Opinions...

Trade 3 Kinetik HC2000 for 2 Turbostart 16v batts AND the charger for them.

STRAIGHT trade, turbostarts are floating at 15.7 apiece.

I'm going to be running a dual charging system, 250 amp 18v alt, and a 170 amp 14v alt (already have it).

If I get the 2 turbostarts, I can get more powermaster S1000 16v batts from mechman pretty cheap since they came out of a show car.

Then get the 250 amp 18v alt from him also later on down the road.

The 14v alt will be in the stock location, then the 18v will be in the smog pump location (not required in Arkansas, no inspection) and the only the 18v alt will do is charger the 6 16v batts and run the diablo 8.1 =]

The 170 amp alt will run the car, and my mids and high amps.

Tell me what you guys think on the trade..

PS - Listened to the 15's today before he takes them out...and man they pound..running on a Cadence Z9 at 1/2 barely flexin'...can't wait to see them movin at 10Kw

i have an 83 olds same pully system i have two alternators also except i put the smaller alt at the smog pump and my 350 amp in the factory location i was thinking about where to put my third one my ac still works. i was going to put it right beside my 350 amp and fab a bracket up to hold it. if you know how to take an alt apart u could build your own for cheap with an adjustable reg so if you decide to run 12 volt or 16 volt u can use the same alt. when i say cheap i mean around 290 for 350 reliable amps. u just need to find a core at a junk yard doesnt need to work as you will be replacing almost everything inside it.

[MrBubbles00482 1]

I wanna see the 15's, go pick em up

It's gonna be a week or two on 15's. I got rent to pay =[ If it was the first of the month I would have all of them.

BUT.

Opinions...

Trade 3 Kinetik HC2000 for 2 Turbostart 16v batts AND the charger for them.

STRAIGHT trade, turbostarts are floating at 15.7 apiece.

I'm going to be running a dual charging system, 250 amp 18v alt, and a 170 amp 14v alt (already have it).

If I get the 2 turbostarts, I can get more powermaster S1000 16v batts from mechman pretty cheap since they came out of a show car.

Then get the 250 amp 18v alt from him also later on down the road.

The 14v alt will be in the stock location, then the 18v will be in the smog pump location (not required in Arkansas, no inspection) and the only the 18v alt will do is charger the 6 16v batts and run the diablo 8.1 =]

The 170 amp alt will run the car, and my mids and high amps.

Tell me what you guys think on the trade..

PS - Listened to the 15's today before he takes them out...and man they pound..running on a Cadence Z9 at 1/2 barely flexin'...can't wait to see them movin at 10Kw

i have an 83 olds same pully system i have two alternators also except i put the smaller alt at the smog pump and my 350 amp in the factory location i was thinking about where to put my third one my ac still works. i was going to put it right beside my 350 amp and fab a bracket up to hold it. if you know how to take an alt apart u could build your own for cheap with an adjustable reg so if you decide to run 12 volt or 16 volt u can use the same alt. when i say cheap i mean around 290 for 350 reliable amps. u just need to find a core at a junk yard doesnt need to work as you will be replacing almost everything inside it.

I was told if you do multiple setups in our type cars (3 v belt system) that you don't need to put do multiple alt brackets unless you even it out.

Say you did 3, One in stock, one in smog pump, and one in A/C. So that you have the same belt load.

My 18v alt will be in the smog pump, and I'm keeping my A/C once I get a new compressor since this one is locked up.

[MrBubbles00482 1]

What do you guys think about that trade??

3 HC2000's for 2 turbostart 16v's and the charger??? straight trade.

[porkchop 304]

watching, .....got something for wagons, mid 90's roadmaster=

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Since I'm short of money, and I have materials for the body work I might as well start it..

One rust spot sanded down and ready for filler.

First layer on and sanded, I sanded most of it off to see how it stuck in the pits where the rust was eating...stuck in there good.

Third coat of filler on. This was right after I put it on, I leveled it with 100 grit and the DA, then 150 and hand smoothed at 220. Then primer to stop the rust from coming back.

You can't really see it, since the pics were with my camera phone, but my tape line could have been better. I also didn't have the right tape on hand, so blue painters tape was the pick at hand, so my line is a bit thick, but nothing some spot sanding to smooth it out can't fix when I paint the hole car.

Edited June 29, 2009 by MrBubbles00482

[MrBubbles00482 1]

Crappy update.

Dude couldn't hold the 15's till the end of the month.. =/

So no BIG system for now.

I will keep working on the body, and get it ready for primer and paint and what not. Headliner I will probably do next week when I get a day off, I just got a new job so I don't need to request off or anything for a while.

Most likely going to order two RE SE 10's next week. I wana try building a T-line pretty bad, and I have a Sundown 1200D sitting in my room doing nothing so why the hell not?

It's probably going to be a good while before the 4 15's or 18's come into play, so this is whats going down for now.