alright guys, you win

[emfk 3]

Alright, with all the outstanding reviews, and everything I've heard about quality and customer service, I'm getting a ssa sub. But, which? I've thought about going with the xcon, but I just think that will be too much for me. (Possible?)

My last sub was a 15" spl sub, but was ridiculously underpowered. The last correctly powered sub I was running was a 12" kicker l7.

I want something louder, and cleaner. Would an icon be enough?

Take note, the l7 was in an nasty prefab box, and was in the trunk of a 1991 Chevy Lumina. The ssa will be in the back of a 2000 celica, with the right box.

So, icon or xcon? I'll be most likely running it on a 1000w mono block from kicker. But, I've also taken into consideration the amp/sub packages you guys have.

Alright. Thanks in advance for the advice. =)

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

If a 1000 watt amp, and wanting to go single driver, the Icon or the Xcon will be a good choice. Both are great on that power. If you are worried about output, I would see if you can fit a ported enclosure for a 15" of either model. Maybe CRX style, sub's up port back, but tuned around 31hz, and in the area of 3.0 - 4 cubes.

[sound=vibration 34]

If a 1000 watt amp, and wanting to go single driver, the Icon or the Xcon will be a good choice. Both are great on that power. If you are worried about output, I would see if you can fit a ported enclosure for a 15" of either model. Maybe CRX style, sub's up port back, but tuned around 31hz, and in the area of 3.0 - 4 cubes.

x2 iv done a swap with less power to icons then the l7s that were in my buddies truck and the icons blew it away

[emfk 3]

If a 1000 watt amp, and wanting to go single driver, the Icon or the Xcon will be a good choice. Both are great on that power. If you are worried about output, I would see if you can fit a ported enclosure for a 15" of either model. Maybe CRX style, sub's up port back, but tuned around 31hz, and in the area of 3.0 - 4 cubes.

x2 iv done a swap with less power to icons then the l7s that were in my buddies truck and the icons blew it away

I was thinking about doing a crx style box. That's really good to hear about the icons blowing away the l7's. I plan on upgrading power throughout time, so do you think it would just be a better idea to go xcon? I've been debating the sundown/xcon combo.

Either way, I've already started saving. Being a broke 17 year old is no fun =p

[Mark LaFountain 1,054]

If a 1000 watt amp, and wanting to go single driver, the Icon or the Xcon will be a good choice. Both are great on that power. If you are worried about output, I would see if you can fit a ported enclosure for a 15" of either model. Maybe CRX style, sub's up port back, but tuned around 31hz, and in the area of 3.0 - 4 cubes.

x2 iv done a swap with less power to icons then the l7s that were in my buddies truck and the icons blew it away

I was thinking about doing a crx style box. That's really good to hear about the icons blowing away the l7's. I plan on upgrading power throughout time, so do you think it would just be a better idea to go xcon? I've been debating the sundown/xcon combo.

Either way, I've already started saving. Being a broke 17 year old is no fun =p

If you plan on a power upgrade in the future, i'd just go XCON, and get it over with

You won't believe the SQ and sledgehammer like output. There's a guy on here running two on 750watts/ea, and he's blown away by it.

[ncacoates 104]

If a 1000 watt amp, and wanting to go single driver, the Icon or the Xcon will be a good choice. Both are great on that power. If you are worried about output, I would see if you can fit a ported enclosure for a 15" of either model. Maybe CRX style, sub's up port back, but tuned around 31hz, and in the area of 3.0 - 4 cubes.

x2 iv done a swap with less power to icons then the l7s that were in my buddies truck and the icons blew it away

I was thinking about doing a crx style box. That's really good to hear about the icons blowing away the l7's. I plan on upgrading power throughout time, so do you think it would just be a better idea to go xcon? I've been debating the sundown/xcon combo.

Either way, I've already started saving. Being a broke 17 year old is no fun =p

If you plan on a power upgrade in the future, i'd just go XCON, and get it over with

You won't believe the SQ and sledgehammer like output. There's a guy on here running two on 750watts/ea, and he's blown away by it.

That i am Mark and so is anyone who hears them. All i ever get is "no way that's 750 a driver its gotta be at least 1500 each." Seriously one if not the most impressive driver iv got the honor to use.

[Notorious97200 339]

I run a 15" Icon, and it is really loud, if you want it !!!

My old Kicker 08 S15L7 in a 4ft3 sealed enclosure was like "a one note player" with 1000w rms : kind of spl sub (?) in my opinion.

The Icon is in the same box, with a round port, and it kicks ass!!!!!!!!! Now, I can listen to (all kind of) music, all kind of bass notes!

Coming from a 15L7, the Icon is more than enough. But you're coming from a 12 : it should be day and night !!!

The Xcon seems to be a fantastic woofer, I'd love to have one, because I am an audio addict for sure, but don't forget the weight in your trunk! And the money to spend

[emfk 3]

Thanks for all the input! It seems like it's xcon or bust now.

Time to start being a little more thrifty and start saving.

[Sir-Lancelot 216]

Good call on the xcons, great woofas.

[RobClay 20]

My opinion would be biased

[- Nickelz N Dimez - 0]

I have a 15" Icon on around 1100 watts rms in 3.1 @ 29.5 hz, It tears shit up and destroys the lows..

You wont be dissapointed trust me. I would recommend ported if you have the space. I havent heard a sealed Icon but ported for sure has output and still sounds great.

[acex3a 5]

I have a 15" Icon on around 1100 watts rms in 3.1 @ 29.5 hz, It tears shit up and destroys the lows..

You wont be dissapointed trust me. I would recommend ported if you have the space. I havent heard a sealed Icon but ported for sure has output and still sounds great.

how is that sub treating you?

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I have a 15" Icon on around 1100 watts rms in 3.1 @ 29.5 hz, It tears shit up and destroys the lows..

You wont be dissapointed trust me. I would recommend ported if you have the space. I havent heard a sealed Icon but ported for sure has output and still sounds great.

:bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:

[basshead601 2]

i have an icon 15 in a 4cu@33hz and even tho the box is kinda big for my truck the lows are amazing. the sub gets lows way better then my T1 did. only thing is i had it in a 3.85@?? im guessing around 40hz and it was a lot louder. the lows werent there but everything else was way louder. overall its the best sub ive had so far

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

i have an icon 15 in a 4cu@33hz and even tho the box is kinda big for my truck the lows are amazing. the sub gets lows way better then my T1 did. only thing is i had it in a 3.85@?? im guessing around 40hz and it was a lot louder. the lows werent there but everything else was way louder. overall its the best sub ive had so far

Thanks for the positive feed back. A few other people have gone from T1's to an Icon and have been very happy with the switch. I would assume, some of the performance difference has to do with the lower suggested tuning for SSA drivers then RF drivers.

[RobClay 20]

I have a 15" Icon on around 1100 watts rms in 3.1 @ 29.5 hz, It tears shit up and destroys the lows..

You wont be dissapointed trust me. I would recommend ported if you have the space. I havent heard a sealed Icon but ported for sure has output and still sounds great.

Hell ye man!

Why didnt you tell you bought an icon??

Glad your happy with it!!