What would you rather have?

[AirFramerMack 3]

4 IA 187s and two AQ 1200's or 8 Hifonics hifi12d4 and two AQ 1200s, this will be a old car(chevy celebrity type ) and walled. this will be my daily drive

[shizzzon 461]

the 187s because the 8 hifonics can only be wired to 2 ohms per amp.

First thing u gotta do is find out how much volume u are gonna have. That will narrow your results a LOT quicker.

Once u find that out, the cheapest\loud ratio would be to go with 15s or 18s.

Me for example have 12-14 cubes NET, so i'll be goin with 4 15s.

If u could get about 20 cubes NET, i'd seriously think about gettin 4 18s.

[AirFramerMack 3]

I thought 4 single 4ohm subs would have a 1ohm load? Yea im not sure how much volume i will have, my intentions where to seal the car well and put up a wall right behind my seat and utilize the rest of the vehicle as the box,but then i have no idea how to figure out my volume for port tuning

[shizzzon 461]

they are single 4 ohm?

the name says 12d4, i assumed they were duals.

well, then yes, 8 12s would surpass 4 15s in cone area but... do u have the room.

Most 1s like 2-2.5cubes per, so 8 of them needs at least 16cubes NET

[AirFramerMack 3]

Yes I am going to try and run 8 of those 12s off two of my aq 1200s or if i can find a 2400rms amp for under 400 bucks ill sell this cause i would rather just run a single amp

[Solid_State13 1]

I thought 4 single 4ohm subs would have a 1ohm load? Yea im not sure how much volume i will have, my intentions where to seal the car well and put up a wall right behind my seat and utilize the rest of the vehicle as the box,but then i have no idea how to figure out my volume for port tuning

you should probably build a box that just takes up most of the space

[shizzzon 461]

The AQ2200d can do what u want.

When it's back in stock they are only $389 shipped.

2200wrms 1%THD

2500wrms 10%THD

[AirFramerMack 3]

yea that will work. Should i run these ported or sealed?

[shizzzon 461]

Well, i'm bout to do a 4 15 install in my car and i go ported all the way.

Tuned low for music and swappable for competition. In my install\opinion, if i'm gonna go loud, i might as well port.

The thing u gotta see is, if u do decide to port, do u have the room to port?

A box that large will have a port displacement around 3-4 cubes!

[jlw*22 0]

I'm not going to dig through all my magazines but I know I have one with an article just for you. It was about a doctor right here in the state of Missery : ) He wanted a sq system put together for comps but was worried about the SPL part of the competion (scoring for this division included db dragging I guess). The installers were creative with the port of this sub and using some worm drives (I think thats what they called them, maybe misspelled) to move doors attached to the inside opening of the port and that created the different settings for the box. Doors closed SQ, doors opened spl. I can't remember right off but I believe the port had enough surface area to eat up the excess area in the box to make the sealed box the right size for sq. It was truly a different idea and I don't think I have ever seen it in any other install. You said this was a daily driver so I assume this gives you some new ways at looking at this project.

[nem 2,019]

I'm not going to dig through all my magazines but I know I have one with an article just for you. It was about a doctor right here in the state of Missery : ) He wanted a sq system put together for comps but was worried about the SPL part of the competion (scoring for this division included db dragging I guess). The installers were creative with the port of this sub and using some worm drives (I think thats what they called them, maybe misspelled) to move doors attached to the inside opening of the port and that created the different settings for the box. Doors closed SQ, doors opened spl. I can't remember right off but I believe the port had enough surface area to eat up the excess area in the box to make the sealed box the right size for sq. It was truly a different idea and I don't think I have ever seen it in any other install. You said this was a daily driver so I assume this gives you some new ways at looking at this project.

Was this box like the Speaker Works Buick Grand National back in the early 90's.

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

I'm not going to dig through all my magazines but I know I have one with an article just for you. It was about a doctor right here in the state of Missery : ) He wanted a sq system put together for comps but was worried about the SPL part of the competion (scoring for this division included db dragging I guess). The installers were creative with the port of this sub and using some worm drives (I think thats what they called them, maybe misspelled) to move doors attached to the inside opening of the port and that created the different settings for the box. Doors closed SQ, doors opened spl. I can't remember right off but I believe the port had enough surface area to eat up the excess area in the box to make the sealed box the right size for sq. It was truly a different idea and I don't think I have ever seen it in any other install. You said this was a daily driver so I assume this gives you some new ways at looking at this project.

Was this box like the Speaker Works Buick Grand National back in the early 90's.

that as the first thing that came to mind. I know Fakuda used this in blazer also.

[jlw*22 0]

I don't think so on the cars you listed. They called him doc roc or something. I never knew Fakuda did such a thing. I would say 96-99 timeline. Off the top of my head I can't recall the car but it was a luxury car and it was JL subs.

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

here's a link to Fukuda's Blazer on car audio mag. bottom on the list. Fukuda is one of the smartest SOBs I have every met uin the industry. I have had the honor to work with him on several occasions. The man needs to work for NASA.

http://www.caraudiomag.com/features/caep_0...azer/index.html

Edited May 12, 2009 by Audibel Customs

[jlw*22 0]

Thats so sick it might be stopped by the CDC.

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

http://audioforum.termpro.com/cgi-bin/ubb/...38;t=023249;p=0

Take a look at the inside. The outside may be hella ugly but remeber this was 1990.

Edited May 12, 2009 by Audibel Customs

[nem 2,019]

You guys are really digging up the oldies. Anybody remember the Typhoon Blazer done at PJ's Auto Sound.

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

what about this one. He knows his stuff but I can't stand to be around the guy.

http://www.caraudiomag.com/features/caep_0...e/photo_02.html

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

This is a good one too and he's a local guy

http://www.prestigecustomsautosound.com/Ra...kPg_08_2003.htm

[nem 2,019]

what about this one. He knows his stuff but I can't stand to be around the guy.

http://www.caraudiomag.com/features/caep_0...e/photo_02.html

Do you remember any of the Peach St. guys from PJ's Auto Sound?

[jlw*22 0]

I might have to call you during your business hours Quentin. You might be able to help me decide on some of the SSA equipment for my ride. And ohh yeah some of them oldies are still the best looking out there. I loved the old griddle look of both the RF and Kicker amps. Have a couple of them stashed for my retro build that I have planned on my 83 Z28.

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

The store name sound familiar. The reason I know all the old times I was a manager at Mobile One auto sound in New Orleans. At the time we were the largest buyer of ALpine and Rockford in the nation. I think we were purchasing like 60 grand dealer cost of each every month. So we were lucky enough to have these guys at our disposal. I was able to go to several RTTI trainings, a few traings with Brian Smicth(SP?), a few trainings with Fishman, went to Alpines F-1 status training and went to CES and SEMA several times atthe expense ofAlpine and Rockford to mingle with everyone.

[jlw*22 0]

Wow! Lucky you. One time you know that all that hard work and luck has truly paid off.

[Quentin Jarrell 671]

I might have to call you during your business hours Quentin. You might be able to help me decide on some of the SSA equipment for my ride. And ohh yeah some of them oldies are still the best looking out there. I loved the old griddle look of both the RF and Kicker amps. Have a couple of them stashed for my retro build that I have planned on my 83 Z28.

I got a old punch 45 that's still blister packed in the card board box t and a never used Rockford symetry.

[nem 2,019]

The store name sound familiar. The reason I know all the old times I was a manager at Mobile One auto sound in New Orleans. At the time we were the largest buyer of ALpine and Rockford in the nation. I think we were purchasing like 60 grand dealer cost of each every month. So we were lucky enough to have these guys at our disposal. I was able to go to several RTTI trainings, a few traings with Brian Smicth(SP?), a few trainings with Fishman, went to Alpines F-1 status training and went to CES and SEMA several times atthe expense ofAlpine and Rockford to mingle with everyone.

If you talk to Dave aka the Fish man I am sure he remembers PJ's. Drew had his own line of subs they were called Pro Tech. That it for the trip down memory lane. Sorry to thread jack.