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I am looking to get a better subwoofer for my room. I have a Insignia 600 watt Receiver, and front and surround speakers. The fronts and others are pretty cheap, but they are actually really clear and have taken quite the abuse. I also have a Yamaha 10" YST-SW216 100 watt sub and I'm not pleased with the performance of it. It is alright, but tends to bottom-out quite a bit when listening to demanding songs. My room is 13x13.

What I am looking to do is: get a amplifier like this Pyle one for the Sub or Subs ONLY by using the RCA outputs on the back of it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270329650426

I was also thinking about 2 Kicker COMP C10's, or one Diaond Audio D3 10". But then I ran across a RE Audio SE 10" sub also. Which of these subs would provide the best SQ and SPL at the same time? I want the sub to be able to handle the lows in songs, like Down 4 THE Krown by Kottonmouth Kings. I would also prefer SQ over SPL, but would like to be able to have alot of SPL if needed.

Any help on deciding on what subs to get?

Thanks in advance.

I don't know if the poll will work or not; it's the first time I have tried it.

Thanks again

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Can't have both. You probably want a loud subwoofer.

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Poll removed. Please read the noobie posting guidelines. The poll took away from the thread and didn't help it. SQ & SPL are EXACT opposites so you can't have both.

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wats ur budget

Around $140 or so for just the sub, but would prefer it to be below that price. Around $180 or so for the amp also.

And my bad about the poll question. Haha, I wasn't even thinking about it when I posted it. If I got a sub for SPL, would it just not hit the notes clean, or is there something else that defines Sound Quality?

Thanks

EDIT: Is this sub any better than 2 COMPS, Diamond Audio, or RE Audio?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=295-414

Edit #2: Would it be better to get this Plate amp instead of the Pyle PT3300?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=300-750

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wats ur budget

Around $140 or so for just the sub, but would prefer it to be below that price. Around $180 or so for the amp also.

And my bad about the poll question. Haha, I wasn't even thinking about it when I posted it. If I got a sub for SPL, would it just not hit the notes clean, or is there something else that defines Sound Quality?

Thanks

EDIT: Is this sub any better than 2 COMPS, Diamond Audio, or RE Audio?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=295-414

Edit #2: Would it be better to get this Plate amp instead of the Pyle PT3300?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=300-750

comps suck on lowend especially if your gonna watch movies....

they daytona might be a good match .. i have never heard one personally but i have heard of people having decent result from them... what are you planning on doing as far as enclosure goes...

a big ported or tline would be nice in my op

Edited by sound=vibration

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wats ur budget

Around $140 or so for just the sub, but would prefer it to be below that price. Around $180 or so for the amp also.

And my bad about the poll question. Haha, I wasn't even thinking about it when I posted it. If I got a sub for SPL, would it just not hit the notes clean, or is there something else that defines Sound Quality?

Thanks

EDIT: Is this sub any better than 2 COMPS, Diamond Audio, or RE Audio?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=295-414

Edit #2: Would it be better to get this Plate amp instead of the Pyle PT3300?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=300-750

comps suck on lowend especially if your gonna watch movies....

they daytona might be a good match .. i have never heard one personally but i have heard of people having decent result from them... what are you planning on doing as far as enclosure goes...

a big ported or tline would be nice in my op

Well, would 2 Kicker 10" CVR's be any better than the comps? And for the enclosure, I just want what will sound the best overall.

Thanks

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try the 15" dayton--the cheaper not the MK and pick up one of their 100-250watt plate amps..

I built a 2.5cube box tuned to 25hz-4"areo port (could have used more port area) for my parents HT installed the dayton 15 and the smaller 75-100w plate amp and all I can say is wow.. only cost about 200 to build the whole thing(sub, amp and box)

Sub rattles everything and really pounds out the lows well.. Can't go wrong at that price.

**looked them up for you... prices have increased slightly since I bought my parents..

sub here

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl....tnumber=295-325

amp here

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl....tnumber=300-802

here's their 240w which is what I run in my ht setup

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl....tnumber=300-804

they're out of stock but they've got a good price on these right now..

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On you're other question on the kickers.... stay away from kicker woofers for HT.... You don't want any part of that.... Just don't.... I'm a kicker buff and I won't try it... good for spl but won't sound right in HT

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as far as sq and spl goes they are complete opposites sq is not loud its just the perfect ballance to even out the front stage. spl is loud. you want loud with good lows for rap not ht ht is diffrent as well if you use it for movies a lot tune it real low 18-20hz if you use it mostly for music/ rap tune anywhere from 30-40hz depending on taste good lows for rap 30-34, 34-36 mix 36-40 loud personally i like 36hz for in car use ive tried others but its what i like.

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oh yeah... forgot to comment on the pyle...

those pyles are junk... stay away from them... The dayton amp will do you better.. (or some other brand.)

Pyle=trash pile... :D

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I will continue to buy O Audio plate amplifiers. I HATE my PE Bash amplifier. It's trash compared to the O Audio.

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I HATE my PE Bash amplifier. It's trash compared to the O Audio.

the "bash" amps aren't nearly as nice as the Daytons... never heard of O Audio....

The daytons do need the use of a 3prong adaptor to get rid of ground noise...

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oh yeah... forgot to comment on the pyle...

those pyles are junk... stay away from them... The dayton amp will do you better.. (or some other brand.)

Pyle=trash pile... :D

Haha, ok thanks. Is there some other brand of the plate amps that can put out more watts for cheaper? I have actually looked, but don't know what to get, or from where.

Would the Diamond D3 10" or RE Audio SE 10" sound better than the Dayton 15" woofer found here

( http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl....tnumber=295-325 ) ? My brother-in-law is saying that a 15" is too big for my room, and won't sound as good as a 10", for my room, but I don't know. Maybe he could be wrong. Any comments on that?

Thanks

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I was just reccomending something that I've actually used.. :)

That's the exact parts that I used in my parents sub..

the dayton 12's would be just as good of a choice for much less than what you'd spend on the re or the diamond

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I was just reccomending something that I've actually used.. :)

That's the exact parts that I used in my parents sub..

the dayton 12's would be just as good of a choice for much less than what you'd spend on the re or the diamond

Yeah I know. I just don't want to use $70 and maybe not like it. Just trying to get the best bang for the buck if ya know what I mean...

Would 2 Dayton 12's be too much? Or could the amp not put out enough for two?

Thanks

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Two 12's will be similiar to a single 15... the two 12's would see more power out of the amp than the single 15 due to impedence.. (the 15 is 8 ohm the 12's are 8 ohm each so 4 ohm on the amp=full power out of the amp)

My parents 15 is running half power on the amp and the gain is turned down do to too much output, it over powers their mains and not to mention rattles the windows. They have quad 4" towers, 1" tweets with a 3.5" surround set--all custom built by myself and a nice 100x5 receiver.. they're HT sounds Awesome .. it's in a 20x20x10'(ceiling) wide open room... Literally knocks the pictures off the wall when you crank on it... serious lows and still has plenty of upper range.

Build your box right and you'll be more than happy

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Two 12's will be similiar to a single 15... the two 12's would see more power out of the amp than the single 15 due to impedence.. (the 15 is 8 ohm the 12's are 8 ohm each so 4 ohm on the amp=full power out of the amp)

My parents 15 is running half power on the amp and the gain is turned down do to too much output, it over powers their mains and not to mention rattles the windows. They have quad 4" towers, 1" tweets with a 3.5" surround set--all custom built by myself and a nice 100x5 receiver.. they're HT sounds Awesome .. it's in a 20x20x10'(ceiling) wide open room... Literally knocks the pictures off the wall when you crank on it... serious lows and still has plenty of upper range.

Build your box right and you'll be more than happy

Ok, I think I will go with the 2 12's or maybe a 15. Thanks for the help so far. How should I build the box?

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I'm a big fan of floor firing the woofers and rear firing the port. (opinions may vary)

My parents is floor fired sub and front fired port--rear firing caused too many rattling windows :)

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I'm a big fan of floor firing the woofers and rear firing the port. (opinions may vary)

My parents is floor fired sub and front fired port--rear firing caused too many rattling windows :)

How did rear firing cause too much rattling windows? Did it make that much of a difference?

Thanks

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my parents house has huge windows... Like 5'x8'.. with rear firing it made them rattle terribly.. by switching to front fire it lost a little output but it got rid of almost all of the rattle (it was rear-fire/corner loaded__i.e.. the box was in the very corner of the room--now it's in the same corner but with the port facing away from the tv)

the front fire sounds better due to less rattles.. loss in output was fairly minimal--didn't matter it was way too much bass anyway..

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if you build it sub down and port out one side then you can spin it around to find which way works best for your room

So, with the sub facing down is the best way to go? And, does anyone else have something hopefully good also to say about Dayton subs? I just really want to make sure that it will have what I want...not that I don't trust you, rushnrun cause I do.

Does it matter that the Dayton woofers are not in the sub section? I will also have my current sub (front-firing, side port) in a corner. I think this is where it sounds the best.

Thanks

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if you build it sub down and port out one side then you can spin it around to find which way works best for your room

So, with the sub facing down is the best way to go? And, does anyone else have something hopefully good also to say about Dayton subs? I just really want to make sure that it will have what I want...not that I don't trust you, rushnrun cause I do.

Does it matter that the Dayton woofers are not in the sub section? I will also have my current sub (front-firing, side port) in a corner. I think this is where it sounds the best.

Thanks

enough said, now start building. your next question should be on box design. Sounds like you want a do it all setup..as mentioned by some of the other dudes... tune in the region of 30 hz and call it the day.

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