Question about component speakers

[///M5 2,833]

Ok, last question for real this time... Can anyone here tell me their thoughts on these speakers?

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB6501/Pol...&tab=review

They are $100 on ebay and per reviews on Crutchfield, seem like a good starting point, yes?

You sell A/V gear so you know for $100 what to expect. I haven't heard those, nor am I eager to but they will probably do just fine. They will sound better with an amplifier and deadening than a $500 set will off your headunit, worlds better. Can you do better for $100? Probably, but once in that range it gets to be a bit personal as everything has its trade-offs and more so at price points.

[F-150 Murphy 0]

As for speakers, Alpine Type S have great quality, 120$ a pair crutchfield. Sound great even with a low powered HU. Maybe find an amp of craigslist. I have a 1000 watt Crunch amp f/s obo 40$. Good luck

DON'T buy that amp and don't buy those speakers without listening to them. They are nothing special and really overpriced, on the used market well fine.

I think it's pointless to add sound deadener if he's going to run coaxials or something cheap. It will help, but will it make them sound 'good.' I doubt it.

I would much rather save the money towards speakers then deadener ive had my system for about a year and still no deadener. And what part of "stock speakers" would need to be deadened haha...

Perhaps with your amazing experience you should "shut the eff up". Considering you have no deadener and then you propose that it does nothing? Nice.

I'd guarantee my stock piece of chit GM truck speakers in my fully deadened doors running sounded better than your Type S's. I am sure I had more midbass and probably better clarity across the board. Do remember that in this game installation is 90% and equipment 10%.

To the OP, I would go back and ignore pretty much everything that F-150 added to your thread. Sorry.

So to answer your question, I'd spend the money on used speakers, a used amplifier, and some deadener. Focus more on the installation and less on the equipment. Don't buy a chit amp though.

Dude seriously?

I can have my own opinion, opinions are pretty much what this forum relies on. In my opinion the type s's are great speakers hands down. I love them, its an opinon. I dont think its very nice to tell someone else to "shut the eff up" seriously i'm giving him advice about what i have expereinced. Its my opinion not yours, Thank you.

Simons 81 i would go with the alpine speakers, 80 dollars is a good price, jsut make sure the seller is legitimate.

Perhaps you are local and you can listen to them, what is your location?

Edited April 8, 2009 by F-150 Murphy

[///M5 2,833]

As for speakers, Alpine Type S have great quality, 120$ a pair crutchfield. Sound great even with a low powered HU. Maybe find an amp of craigslist. I have a 1000 watt Crunch amp f/s obo 40$. Good luck

DON'T buy that amp and don't buy those speakers without listening to them. They are nothing special and really overpriced, on the used market well fine.

I think it's pointless to add sound deadener if he's going to run coaxials or something cheap. It will help, but will it make them sound 'good.' I doubt it.

I would much rather save the money towards speakers then deadener ive had my system for about a year and still no deadener. And what part of "stock speakers" would need to be deadened haha...

Perhaps with your amazing experience you should "shut the eff up". Considering you have no deadener and then you propose that it does nothing? Nice.

I'd guarantee my stock piece of chit GM truck speakers in my fully deadened doors running sounded better than your Type S's. I am sure I had more midbass and probably better clarity across the board. Do remember that in this game installation is 90% and equipment 10%.

To the OP, I would go back and ignore pretty much everything that F-150 added to your thread. Sorry.

So to answer your question, I'd spend the money on used speakers, a used amplifier, and some deadener. Focus more on the installation and less on the equipment. Don't buy a chit amp though.

Dude seriously?

I can have my own opinion, opinions are pretty much what this forum relies on. In my opinion the type s's are great speakers hands down. I love them, its an opinon. I dont think its very nice to tell someone else to "shut the eff up" seriously i'm giving him advice about what i have expereinced. Its my opinion not yours, Thank you.

Simons 81 i would go with the alpine speakers, 80 dollars is a good price, jsut make sure the seller is legitimate.

Perhaps you are local and you can listen to them, what is your location?

Seriously yes. Your opinion is based on a real small sample set and that is NOT what this forum relies on. The whole "I have this and it rocks" attitude really sucks. Spend some time listening to other things and gather an opinion based on multiple choices and then go ahead and share it otherwise all you are doing is tooting your own horn for what you bought. It is actually posts like yours that ruin the validity of a forum and help promote useless boners based on misinformation. To make things even worse you said not to deaden, but yet you haven't done it yourself. How is that a valid opinion? Your advice in this thread is useless to the OP and to the forum.

[ABXX49 20]

A couple of years ago I would have said Infinity made the best speakers ever. After hearing a TON of different speakers I know feel really guilty for recommending them back then. I've been a member here for about a year and a half, and have really only been giving advice for the past half of a year. I figured I was better off learning, which I was, before giving my underdeveloped opinion. Save yourself the embarrassment for a while, and really learn your shit.

[F-150 Murphy 0]

As for speakers, Alpine Type S have great quality, 120$ a pair crutchfield. Sound great even with a low powered HU. Maybe find an amp of craigslist. I have a 1000 watt Crunch amp f/s obo 40$. Good luck

DON'T buy that amp and don't buy those speakers without listening to them. They are nothing special and really overpriced, on the used market well fine.

I think it's pointless to add sound deadener if he's going to run coaxials or something cheap. It will help, but will it make them sound 'good.' I doubt it.

I would much rather save the money towards speakers then deadener ive had my system for about a year and still no deadener. And what part of "stock speakers" would need to be deadened haha...

Perhaps with your amazing experience you should "shut the eff up". Considering you have no deadener and then you propose that it does nothing? Nice.

I'd guarantee my stock piece of chit GM truck speakers in my fully deadened doors running sounded better than your Type S's. I am sure I had more midbass and probably better clarity across the board. Do remember that in this game installation is 90% and equipment 10%.

To the OP, I would go back and ignore pretty much everything that F-150 added to your thread. Sorry.

So to answer your question, I'd spend the money on used speakers, a used amplifier, and some deadener. Focus more on the installation and less on the equipment. Don't buy a chit amp though.

Dude seriously?

I can have my own opinion, opinions are pretty much what this forum relies on. In my opinion the type s's are great speakers hands down. I love them, its an opinon. I dont think its very nice to tell someone else to "shut the eff up" seriously i'm giving him advice about what i have expereinced. Its my opinion not yours, Thank you.

Simons 81 i would go with the alpine speakers, 80 dollars is a good price, jsut make sure the seller is legitimate.

Perhaps you are local and you can listen to them, what is your location?

Seriously yes. Your opinion is based on a real small sample set and that is NOT what this forum relies on. The whole "I have this and it rocks" attitude really sucks. Spend some time listening to other things and gather an opinion based on multiple choices and then go ahead and share it otherwise all you are doing is tooting your own horn for what you bought. It is actually posts like yours that ruin the validity of a forum and help promote useless boners based on misinformation. To make things even worse you said not to deaden, but yet you haven't done it yourself. How is that a valid opinion? Your advice in this thread is useless to the OP and to the forum.

I didnt say NOT to deaden i simply said get speakers before deadening. im not tooting my horn jst simply stating what ive had that sounds good. I'm a passive person lets calm down. Just trying to help the guy :/

[///M5 2,833]

You specifically said to spend it on speakers and not deadener and I 100% disagree

[KU40 173]

I think that you should go to a local shop and listen to speakers before buying. Alpine is sold in nearly every store so you should be able to go and find some Type S's to listen to, along with pioneer, infinity, etc. You don't have to buy from them (online is nearly always cheaper), just listen to the kinds of speakers you like, tweeters especially.

Second, you should ask yourself what you want to do with this setup down the road. If you just want something that sounds better than stock for cheap and don't really plan on anything down the road, a simple set of 2-way coaxials will work. If you'd like to put an amp on them down the road to get even better performance, go with components. As you said, no reason to buy junk now and throw the money away if you're going to want to upgrade in the future. At least get something now that's upgradeable (can handle additional power from an amplifer, for example).

Third, if your doors don't have any type of deadener already on them, adding it will help a lot. For the most simple upgrade, all that you need to do is separate the rear wave from the front wave, and this is not hard at all. Honestly I've used cardboard and duct tape to cover holes in the inner door skin before and noticed results. You don't need largely expensive deadening products to get a little increase in midbass. Those help for more advanced installs and they can get crazy with different types. I'm not saying DON'T buy deadener, I just don't think that for this install you need top-of-the-line stuff.

[simons81 0]

I went and checked out a few pairs at a store yesterday. The showroom probably doesn't sound like what the car will actually sound like, I'm sure. That said, I wasn't impressed at all with the Alpine Type S. I much preferred the Infinity 6050cs (I think that was the model) over them, and a pair of Focal 165A1 over the Infinitys, which was surprising since the Focals had an aluminum tweeter. Anywho, gonna go to Frys and check out some Polk Audio speakers and any other component I haven't heard yet. I also plan on buying the dynamat door kit and doing my doors up.

Anyways, thanks for all the feedback folks. I'll post the results if anyone cares (I know, cheapo setup compared to what most of you guys have but whatever).

[Adrian_D 520]

LOL, I have a job but I'm putting myself through college unfortunately. I just bought a 99 Honda with stock everything and figured I'd treat myself to a little upgrade in audio. I already have the 2x10" sub and amp from my last car, and Newegg had a special on the HU for $90 with free shipping, and while I'm not a Clarion fan, I was stoked about the front USB and iPod jack port for the price. I wanted to keep my spending at about $300 for now. So I dropped $90 on the HU already, leaving about $210. If I spend $130 on a pair of decent front component speakers, that leaves about $80 for a amp wiring kit and maybe a pair of baffles for the speakers to keep them dry (I live in Oregon... tons of rain). I dunno, I listen to mostly metal, sometimes a hair of rap and classical, but for the most part I don't need to bump, just lookin' for the full spectrum. And then maybe later down the line, but a new amp to power the sub and a new pair of rear speakers as well. Bah, maybe I'm just expecting too much for too little.

thats what its sounding like to me, if you looks around you may be able to find a few used components for cheap, or on clearance, another thought would be to find some good coaxials (jbl cdt vifa and others of the sort) but i would definitely do the sound deadener, it will make a huge improvement, and then go from there, also, clarion is great quality stuff, although not always the most user friendly

I think it's pointless to add sound deadener if he's going to run coaxials or something cheap. It will help, but will it make them sound 'good.' I doubt it.

i dont think its pointless at all, 1. it will cut down on road noise, 2. it will improve midbass response, ive even heard of people getting quite dramatic differences with stock speakers. for what hes wanting to do, a set of good coaxials may be the way to go for him as a good set of components can cost upwards of 150, and some coaxials of the same quality may only cost 80-100

I would much rather save the money towards speakers then deadener ive had my system for about a year and still no deadener. And what part of "stock speakers" would need to be deadened haha...

I've seen big improvements on the way the stock speakers perform in a properly deandened door compared to a stock door. Especially on the midbass.

[dbjunior 0]

I went and checked out a few pairs at a store yesterday. The showroom probably doesn't sound like what the car will actually sound like, I'm sure. That said, I wasn't impressed at all with the Alpine Type S. I much preferred the Infinity 6050cs (I think that was the model) over them, and a pair of Focal 165A1 over the Infinitys, which was surprising since the Focals had an aluminum tweeter. Anywho, gonna go to Frys and check out some Polk Audio speakers and any other component I haven't heard yet. I also plan on buying the dynamat door kit and doing my doors up.

Anyways, thanks for all the feedback folks. I'll post the results if anyone cares (I know, cheapo setup compared to what most of you guys have but whatever).

thats a good start. as far as dynamat goes you might want to look into other brands to save money secondskin on this forum is one raamat is another very good products just better prices. there are cheaper products but with that the products tend to be cheaper.

[///M5 2,833]

You are right in that they will sound different in your doors, they should actually sound better. The voicing on the tweeter will be similar though so it is still very valid to go and listen.

I wouldn't say that Raamat "tends to be cheaper" it just isn't marked up as much. More than effective enough for what you need.

And remember it is your ears and not ours, you are on the right path