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2 fi Q on SAE 1000D not enough?

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the search function doesn't like it when i search for anything about the Q's

and i searched backa couple pages and didn't find what i was looking for.

anyways, i'm considering upgrading to a second Q. and i have 2 questions.

i would rather not half to upgrade my alt, seeing as i just got a brand new stock alt put in 2 days ago cause my old one completely went out. and i can't return it now that it's in.. (and i don'th ave money now.) so i want to know if my current SAE will be enough for 2 Fi Q's? and i know it'll power them, and probably be just fine. but what i'm asking is will it be worth upgrading to a 1500? i would go 2000 but i'd rather not have to upgrade my electrical.

also, since i will have 1 broken in Q, and 1 brand new Q, shouldi break in the new Q before i put them together? or can put them together and just take it easy?

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Personally, I think that would be good for a pair of Q's. As far as the break in, play as normal. From what I read, breaking in a sub is a myth. Yes, there will be a break in period, but you don't need to do anything special to break it in.

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oh okay. sweet, any other suggestions?

Can you be a little less vague? :) Obviously if you went this route, you would have a lot of headroom for an upgrade down the line. I say pick up the extra Q now, upgrade the amp down the line (If you even find it necessary).

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if your current sub is a d2 your SOL man. gonna need D1 for both subs to come out with a final load of 1 ohm.

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if your current sub is a d2 your SOL man. gonna need D1 for both subs to come out with a final load of 1 ohm.

yea i know, :( but i read somewhere that i can still get them as a 1ohm load still!

something about wiring hte subs in series together, but parallel to the amp? idk i don't ge tthe whole wiring thing exactly, like how it all works, i just know it does and i do what it says too.

but if what i know is true, then that would be a .5 ohm load?

i might sell the d2, and get 2 d1's. or i was also thinking about upgrading to 1 15'/2 12" BL, but i really really can't decide.

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if your current sub is a d2 your SOL man. gonna need D1 for both subs to come out with a final load of 1 ohm.

yea i know, :( but i read somewhere that i can still get them as a 1ohm load still!

something about wiring hte subs in series together, but parallel to the amp? idk i don't ge tthe whole wiring thing exactly, like how it all works, i just know it does and i do what it says too.

but if what i know is true, then that would be a .5 ohm load?

i might sell the d2, and get 2 d1's. or i was also thinking about upgrading to 1 15'/2 12" BL, but i really really can't decide.

yep itll be .5 ohms you could also send the other in for recone as well to get a matching set. id recommend the bl's if you're looking for a good step up in output and don't mind loosing some low end and some SQ

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i kinda want low end. actually i really want low end. mainly because i've never really felt it before. people say the Q gets really low. well mine gets low i suppose, but maybe i am just not thinking of low as what really is low. when i hear people say it gets the lows really well, then it's audible or present, you can feel it. well on my test tone cd, it goes up 5hz each track. and you can really feel 45, and kinda feel 40. 35hz is there, but not there.. its not hitting as hard as i am expecting it too by reading peoples reviews on the lows. and 30 you can barely feel it.

when i set my gains using a DMM, i checked the volts i was getting from my amp at ranges from 30-60hz. but i tuned it to the 50hz tone. i'm suppose to put out 31.6v according to the sticky on SSA,

30hz - ~28v

35hz - ~31.3v

40hz - ~30v

45hz - ~31v

50hz - 31.6v

55hz - ~29v

60hz - ~28v

idk if that's pretty normal, i have my LPF on my amp set somewhere around 50-60hz (i think..). does that seem right? but anyways the lows just don't feel there. keep in mind my box is sealed at 1.5cuft before displacements

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when you upgrade to 2, make a ported box tuned around 32hz.... that should really make the differnce

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if your current sub is a d2 your SOL man. gonna need D1 for both subs to come out with a final load of 1 ohm.

yea i know, :( but i read somewhere that i can still get them as a 1ohm load still!

something about wiring hte subs in series together, but parallel to the amp? idk i don't ge tthe whole wiring thing exactly, like how it all works, i just know it does and i do what it says too.

but if what i know is true, then that would be a .5 ohm load?

i might sell the d2, and get 2 d1's. or i was also thinking about upgrading to 1 15'/2 12" BL, but i really really can't decide.

I really find this quite interesting, becasue of our conversation yesterday, and how others assumed you meant strictly SQ setup, but I knew what ya meant ;)

I'm glad to see youre just adding cone area and not switching to a different kind of driver that is designed for something other than the sound you are after :)

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why not try to make a ported enclosure first.

tune it low.

if you like it then your ohm load would stay correct and you would be correcty powered.

if you want to realy feel it down low then ported sound like what you want.

and the q still sounds great ported.

if its not what your looking for then your only out a test box.

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I am having a hard time with your descriptions. "Hitting" is not very descriptive. As for hearing you do realize that your ears roll off 'down low' and of course that will make it seem like your driver is.

Theoretically speaking 2 drivers with half the power will be the same volume as one driver with twice the power. Of course in practice with power compression and the capabilities to eq you could thicken up your bottom end with another driver.

How many different boxes have you tried? Taking it as big as you can without letting the driver get sloppy will help your cause as well. Also, instead of saying low perhaps describing the frequency you'd like it to play low to would help. On the same note, curious as to what music you are gearing this to.

The only "cheap" fix is to change the box. Everything else is going to cost you.

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I'd Say Build A Ported Box And Tune Around 30hz, You May Not Want/Need That Extra Q Then.

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